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Jeff May 23rd 05 02:37 AM

transom saver (piece of crap)
 
Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin below the
prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody making a
fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the Transom
Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be appreciated
because I'm bummed.



Capt. Neal® May 23rd 05 02:42 AM


"Jeff" wrote in message ...
Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin below the
prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody making a
fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the Transom
Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be appreciated
because I'm bummed.


Let that be a lesson to ya. Ixnay on all that lift fin crap and transom saver
crap and anything else that modifies the stock setup.

You're looking at a new prop as yours is probably badly bent. You need a
new gear case plus the labor to install it. We're talking big bucks here.
Prepare to shell out close to a grand.

Live and learn. I'd be bummed too...

CN

tony thomas May 23rd 05 03:23 AM

Probably what happened is the motor bounced and the transom saver fell off
of either the trailer end or the motor end if it was not strapped on.

I always ran the trim down to jam the motor against the transom saver on
boats that used one. And you always need to strap it to the motor. I
assume you strapped it or you would not have had 1/2 of it left.

As for the lower unit. The skeg can be replaced by a prop shop. You need
to verify that everything else is ok first. Take it to a dealer and have
them do a leak/pressure test and verify the propshaft is not bent. If
everything checks out - then have a new skeg welded by a prop shop. They
know how and won't overheat and melt the seals.


--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin below the
prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody making
a
fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the Transom
Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be appreciated
because I'm bummed.





[email protected] May 23rd 05 03:12 PM


Capt. Neal=AE wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message

...
Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin

below the
prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody

making a
fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the

Transom
Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be

appreciated
because I'm bummed.


Let that be a lesson to ya. Ixnay on all that lift fin crap and

transom saver
crap and anything else that modifies the stock setup.

I certainly wouldn't nix the transom saver. I never pull my boat
without it. I'd never rely solely on the tilt rams to take the load of
the whole engine when bouncing around the roadways. Using the transom
saver isn't rocket science, it's just a bar that goes from the motor to
the trailer roller to keep the engine from lowering.


Doug Kanter May 23rd 05 07:19 PM

Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from whomping down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its own lock to
keep it raised at those times?



[email protected] May 23rd 05 07:55 PM


Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from whomping

down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its own

lock to
keep it raised at those times?


The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other end is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


Doug Kanter May 23rd 05 08:06 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from whomping

down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its own

lock to
keep it raised at those times?


The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other end is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to be
threatened by the road???



William Andersen May 23rd 05 08:08 PM

The outboard may have a latch to keep it up but the design may allow for it
to release due to the engine bouncing around, allowing the latch to come out
of it's detent, and allowing the engine to drop to the full down position.
The transom saver holds the engine up and also transfers some of the weight
to the trailer, reducing stress on the transom.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from whomping down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its own lock
to keep it raised at those times?




[email protected] May 23rd 05 08:17 PM


Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from

whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its

own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?


The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other end

is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he


http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why

trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to be


threatened by the road???


Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit when
going over speed bumps, etc.


Doug Kanter May 23rd 05 08:32 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from

whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its

own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?

The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other end

is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he


http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why

trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to be


threatened by the road???


Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit when
going over speed bumps, etc.


I'm surprised motor manufacturers haven't learned to include some sort of
really solid anchor points on the motors, and an accessory of their own made
for the specific motor. I mean, obviously, there's money to be made. If you
could buy a nicely overdesigned "thing" to do this job, I'm sure you'd do
so.



Doug Kanter May 23rd 05 08:33 PM

Right - mine has that latch, but it's definitely too flimsy for driving
around in the up position.

"William Andersen" wrote in message
news:iSpke.3398$Xh.1998@fed1read07...
The outboard may have a latch to keep it up but the design may allow for
it to release due to the engine bouncing around, allowing the latch to
come out of it's detent, and allowing the engine to drop to the full down
position.
The transom saver holds the engine up and also transfers some of the
weight to the trailer, reducing stress on the transom.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from whomping down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have its own lock
to keep it raised at those times?






Capt. Neal® May 23rd 05 08:54 PM


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ...
Most outboards indeed have a lever that actuates a device that will hold
the lower unit in tilt position. Most of the ones I've seen, including
the one on my Yamaha 225, seem very light weight to me, and many
outboarders think hitting a decent bump in the road might break it off
altogether, requiring the typical $1500 repair. That's why I use the
wood block.


Why not put that wood block that rests upon your puny shoulders
to similar use?

CN

tony thomas May 23rd 05 11:33 PM

You don't necessarily have to use a transom saver. It really depends on the
boat. The trim is designed to and will hold the motor up all the time
unless there is a problem w/ your trim system.
Transom saver is just that - save your transom. The load on a transom from
a 300+ lbs motor bouncing off the back of a transom (especially if you have
a jack plate that has as much as 15" of setback) is enourmous. This device
transferes the load to the trailer and does not allow the motor to bounce.
I know people who have a weak trim system that leaks down over time and will
not hold the motor up. In this case they use a transom saver to keep the
motor up while trailering as well as to transfer the load.
--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message

...
Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin

below the
prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody

making a
fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the

Transom
Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be

appreciated
because I'm bummed.


Let that be a lesson to ya. Ixnay on all that lift fin crap and

transom saver
crap and anything else that modifies the stock setup.

I certainly wouldn't nix the transom saver. I never pull my boat
without it. I'd never rely solely on the tilt rams to take the load of
the whole engine when bouncing around the roadways. Using the transom
saver isn't rocket science, it's just a bar that goes from the motor to
the trailer roller to keep the engine from lowering.



Dan Krueger May 24th 05 12:38 AM

A transom saver isn't designed to keep the engine from lowering. It
takes the pounding from trailering off of the transom and moves it to
the trailer. That's why they are call *transom* savers! Most will
attach to the trailer with a wire and a pin or just a pin that is
inserted - and then rotated - into a square hole. The other side uses a
bungee to keep that end securely attached to the lower unit. If
installed properly it can't come apart.

The 2X4, which I also have used on difficult trailers, doesn't perform
the same job. The bouncing will still flex the transom with the entire
weight of the motor.

Dan


wrote:
Capt. Neal® wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message


...

Just got back from the lake with half a Transom Saver and no fin


below the

prop. Had no idea it fell, but it torn up the lower unit. Anybody


making a

fix kit for outboards? It's a Merc 90hp. I didn't hook up the


Transom

Saver so I'm not sure what went wrong. Any help would be


appreciated

because I'm bummed.


Let that be a lesson to ya. Ixnay on all that lift fin crap and


transom saver

crap and anything else that modifies the stock setup.


I certainly wouldn't nix the transom saver. I never pull my boat
without it. I'd never rely solely on the tilt rams to take the load of
the whole engine when bouncing around the roadways. Using the transom
saver isn't rocket science, it's just a bar that goes from the motor to
the trailer roller to keep the engine from lowering.


[email protected] May 24th 05 01:25 PM


Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from

whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have

its
own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?

The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a

vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other

end
is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he



http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why

trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to

be

threatened by the road???


Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it

will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers

will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit when
going over speed bumps, etc.


I'm surprised motor manufacturers haven't learned to include some

sort of
really solid anchor points on the motors, and an accessory of their

own made
for the specific motor. I mean, obviously, there's money to be made.

If you
could buy a nicely overdesigned "thing" to do this job, I'm sure

you'd do
so.


The latches are fine, but they don't get the load off of the transom.
The transom saver does just that, by transferring load to the trailer.


[email protected] May 24th 05 01:27 PM


Dan Krueger wrote:
A transom saver isn't designed to keep the engine from lowering. It
takes the pounding from trailering off of the transom and moves it to


the trailer. That's why they are call *transom* savers! Most will
attach to the trailer with a wire and a pin or just a pin that is
inserted - and then rotated - into a square hole. The other side

uses a
bungee to keep that end securely attached to the lower unit. If
installed properly it can't come apart.

The 2X4, which I also have used on difficult trailers, doesn't

perform
the same job. The bouncing will still flex the transom with the

entire
weight of the motor.

Dan


If the 2x4 goes from the lower unit to the trailer, it certainly will
do the same job, in that it changes the load path.


Doug Kanter May 24th 05 03:10 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from
whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have

its
own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?

The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a

vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other

end
is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he



http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why
trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to

be

threatened by the road???

Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it

will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers

will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit when
going over speed bumps, etc.


I'm surprised motor manufacturers haven't learned to include some

sort of
really solid anchor points on the motors, and an accessory of their

own made
for the specific motor. I mean, obviously, there's money to be made.

If you
could buy a nicely overdesigned "thing" to do this job, I'm sure

you'd do
so.


The latches are fine, but they don't get the load off of the transom.
The transom saver does just that, by transferring load to the trailer.


Yeah...I know what you mean. What I meant is, the motor makers ought to
include some sort of nice, solid fitting that's part of the motor frame, and
sell their own version of the transom saver. No "one size fits many"
accessories, know what I mean?

And, politicians should be honest. Never mind. I'm going for more coffee.
:-)



[email protected] May 24th 05 05:08 PM


Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from
whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have

its
own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?

The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has

a
vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other

end
is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he




http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but

why
trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough

to
be

threatened by the road???

Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it

will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers

will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit

when
going over speed bumps, etc.


I'm surprised motor manufacturers haven't learned to include some

sort of
really solid anchor points on the motors, and an accessory of

their
own made
for the specific motor. I mean, obviously, there's money to be

made.
If you
could buy a nicely overdesigned "thing" to do this job, I'm sure

you'd do
so.


The latches are fine, but they don't get the load off of the

transom.
The transom saver does just that, by transferring load to the

trailer.


Yeah...I know what you mean. What I meant is, the motor makers ought

to
include some sort of nice, solid fitting that's part of the motor

frame, and
sell their own version of the transom saver. No "one size fits many"
accessories, know what I mean?

And, politicians should be honest. Never mind. I'm going for more

coffee.
:-)


I'm glad you FINALLY injected some politics into the thread, I was
beginning to get annoyed!!!!!


Dan Krueger May 26th 05 01:56 AM

And two miles it's on the road or in someone's windshield. Have you
really trailered a boat?

wrote:
Dan Krueger wrote:

A transom saver isn't designed to keep the engine from lowering. It
takes the pounding from trailering off of the transom and moves it to



the trailer. That's why they are call *transom* savers! Most will
attach to the trailer with a wire and a pin or just a pin that is
inserted - and then rotated - into a square hole. The other side


uses a

bungee to keep that end securely attached to the lower unit. If
installed properly it can't come apart.

The 2X4, which I also have used on difficult trailers, doesn't


perform

the same job. The bouncing will still flex the transom with the


entire

weight of the motor.

Dan



If the 2x4 goes from the lower unit to the trailer, it certainly will
do the same job, in that it changes the load path.


tony thomas May 28th 05 03:48 AM


-
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Is that the thing that's supposed to keep the outboard from
whomping
down
when you're launching/unlaunching? Doesn't the outboard have

its
own
lock to
keep it raised at those times?

The transom saver holds the motor up while trailering. It has a

vee
notch that cradles the bottom end of the motor, and the other

end
is a
semi-circle that hits the last trailer roller.
See he



http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults


I know why we sometimes raise the motor at the boat ramp, but why
trailer
with it up, using that device? Does your motor reach low enough to

be

threatened by the road???

Yes! If you leave the motor on my bass boat down all the way, it

will
touch just sitting in the driveway! Most bass boats on trailers

will.
Mine has to be raised about a foot to make sure it doesn't hit when
going over speed bumps, etc.


I'm surprised motor manufacturers haven't learned to include some

sort of
really solid anchor points on the motors, and an accessory of their

own made
for the specific motor. I mean, obviously, there's money to be made.

If you
could buy a nicely overdesigned "thing" to do this job, I'm sure

you'd do
so.


The latches are fine, but they don't get the load off of the transom.
The transom saver does just that, by transferring load to the trailer.


Yeah...I know what you mean. What I meant is, the motor makers ought to
include some sort of nice, solid fitting that's part of the motor frame,
and sell their own version of the transom saver. No "one size fits many"
accessories, know what I mean?

And, politicians should be honest. Never mind. I'm going for more coffee.
:-)


But that would not work as the intent is to transfer the load to the
trailer. Since a 90 hp engine may be used on any of over 100 boats and
trailers the combination of lengths is almost endless. That is why only a
universal type transom saver works best. They have worked great for years
if installed properly and the engine is trimmed down on it properly.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com




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