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[email protected] May 18th 05 02:02 PM

OT Bush as Big Brother
 
This, from our Republican government, all the while claiming they want
LESS government in their lives:

They Really Are Watching You
Ready for your own all-new, sinister ID card, courtesy of Homeland
Security? Shudder
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, May 18, 2005


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Well, now we've done it.
Congress just passed it and Dubya has promised to sign it and the
Homeland Security Department is giddier than Mel Gibson in a nail
factory over it and marketers nationwide are salivating at the groin at
the prospect of it, and the next big step toward America becoming an
even more delightfully paranoid and draconian Big Brother wonderland
has now officially been taken.

It's called Real ID. It is, in short, a new and genetically mutated
type of driver's license for all Americans, replacing your current
license and replacing your Social Security card and replacing your
sense of well being and privacy and humanity and part of a new,
uniform, deeply sinister, national uniform card system whereby every
person living and breathing in these paranoid and tense times shall
henceforth be much more traceable and watchable given how we will all
soon be required by law to carry this super-deluxe computerized ID card
with us at all times, packed as it will be with more personal,
digitized info about you than even your mother knows.

Real ID is coming very soon. The legislation was passed with little
outcry and zero debate by both House and Senate just last week because
lawmakers snuck it into a massive $82 billion military spending bill,
and therefore no one was really paying much attention and this is the
way you get thorny disturbing culturally demeaning bills to pass
without resistance from smart people who should know better.

The new law will, according to the Wired News story linked above,
require everyone to hand over not one, not two, but fully four types of
documentation to renew their driver's license, such as a photo ID, a
birth certificate, proof that their Social Security number is legit and
something that validates their home address, like a phone bill. DMV
employees will then have to verify the documents against giant teeming
federal databases and store the documents and a digital photo of you in
a database. Isn't that fun? Doesn't that sound gratifying?

What's more, the card's design plan includes multiple openings for the
Homeland Security Department to add on whatever features they deem
necessary, with or without your knowledge, consent or who the hell
cares what you think because we do what we want now please shut the
hell up and quit asking questions.

Computer (RFID) microchip? Likely. Digital fingerprint? Sure. Political
affiliation? You bet. Web-site-visit log and religious affiliation and
recent sperm count and arrest record and drug addictions and medical
history and blood type and gender orientation and parent's/children's
home address and number of personal blog posts calling Dr. Phil a
"slug-licking ego-bitch charlatan" and your recent purchase history on
shotathome.com? One guess.

Make no mistake: Real ID, in short, takes us one happy step closer to a
total surveillance state, where everyone is stamped and everyone is
watchable and everyone is traceable and unless you live way, way off
the grid out in the increasingly nonexistent hinterlands, you cannot
escape the spazzy and twitchy and paranoid eye of Homeland Security.

Remember the scenes in that surprisingly not-awful Tom Cruise flick
"Minority Report" with the ubiquitous eye scanners, installed all over
the near-future city? And as poor Tommy ran around like a maniac,
little scanner machines installed by the gummint would read the eye
pattern of every citizen as they walked around and the system could
track anyone at any time no matter where they might wander and all the
info was dumped into a huge database that was studied and cross-checked
and manipulated by the CIA and FBI and Banana Republic?

Real ID feels much like that, only not nearly as cool.

Real ID is, as you might expect, giving civil liberties groups and
immigrant-support groups the hives. State governors across the nation
are none too happy, either, as implementation of the new law will cost
each state hundreds of millions of dollars, but, of course, the bill
provides zero federal funds to help. Such is the BushCo way.

This is the funny thing. This is the sad thing. This is the terrifying
thing. We have suffered one major debilitating act of terrorism in this
nation and we have recoiled so violently, so rabidly, so desperately
that we are still more than willing to give up whatever freedoms
necessary in a vain and silly attempt to control chaos and plug every
hole, when of course the nation is basically one giant hole to begin
with.

Of course, any good conspiracy theorist worth his secret underground
bootleg Area 51 videos will tell you this sort of citizen-surveillance
thing has been going on for years, decades, from spy satellites to GPS
to all manner of phone tracking and e-mail snooping and behavior
watching and this Real ID thing only takes it a little more public,
national, makes it part of the cultural lexicon because we have finally
weakened so much we just don't seem to give a damn what they do to us
anymore.

Don't think it's all that bad? Think BushCo's flying monkeys in the CIA
and FBI and Homeland Security really have your best interests at heart
and are genuinely trying to protect you from scary swarthy furriners
who want to sneak into our country and poison our Cheerios and paint
our flag orange and cover our wimmin in burlap? Have at it. The GOP
would love to have you. Oh, and while you're at it, enjoy that tiny
grain-of-rice-size bar-coded implant RFID microchip the FDA just
approved, which they can permanently slip under your skin in about 20
seconds, with nary a peep.

This is what's happening now. With Real ID (and who knows what else),
the government is cracking down and creating a new and improved and far
more devious and exploitable system to monitor its citizens because,
well, because we let them. Because millions of us have been pummeled so
successfully by the fear-mongering Right. Because we have never been so
lax, so blinded by warmongering and dread, so numbed to what might
become of us.

Ah, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is just rampant paranoia talking
and it's just a silly piece of harmless legislation and Real ID is
overall a genuinely good and useful idea that will ultimately make us
safer and more secure. You think?

Because hasn't BushCo proven to be reliable and honest and just reeking
with integrity about privacy and security issues so far? Hasn't the USA
Patriot Act been just a wondrous boon to police and CIA and our sense
that we are trusted and cared for by our government? Aren't we all
feeling just so much safer with this most secretive, least accountable
administration at the helm?

After all, why not trust the government on this? Why not put our faith
in the goodly Homeland Security Department? Maybe Real ID really is
patriotic and constructive and it will be a smooth and secure and
completely inviolable system, one that protects citizens while giving
them a new sense of freedom to move about the country with carefree
flag-waving ease, safe in the knowledge that their big, snarling
gummint is watching over them like a protective mother bear -- as
opposed to, say, a female praying mantis, who greedily screws her
lover, and then, of course, eats him alive.


NOYB May 18th 05 02:54 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -



Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.




P.Fritz May 18th 05 03:27 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -



Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.


What else should one expect from the "King of the NG idiots"?







Doug Kanter May 18th 05 04:00 PM

I suspect that using advanced technology available for free, to everyone, it
will be fairly simple to give one of those cards a massive stroke and
digital Alzheimer's. I'm thinking the tools involve a wool sweater, a
low-humidity day, and a nice, fat magnet.



Doug Kanter May 18th 05 04:30 PM

Now that I think about it, I realize it would take NO special technology to
disable one of those cards. My wallet already does it to every card I carry,
within about 3 months. Magnetic strips are worn off, and the photo on my
pistol permit is beginning to look like an M.C. Escher painting.



[email protected] May 18th 05 05:04 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -



Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.


You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


[email protected] May 18th 05 05:05 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive

inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -



Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.


What else should one expect from the "King of the NG idiots"?

For the idiots in the group, like you and NOYB, it's not MY HEADER!!!!!
I love it, you show your stupidity just like this every day, then call
someone else an idiot!


John H May 18th 05 08:11 PM

On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and pasted some off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but *was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 18th 05 08:12 PM

On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700, wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -



Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.


You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NOYB May 19th 05 03:20 AM


"Alfred" wrote in message
...
I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you
stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



Stupid people have a right to post their views on this issue too, Alfred.
So...how do you feel about the ID's?



Doug Kanter May 19th 05 05:30 AM


"Haroldy" wrote in message
...
On 18 May 2005, wrote:

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.



No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....



Bert Robbins May 19th 05 12:26 PM


"Userbeam Remailer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2005, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Haroldy" wrote in message
...
On 18 May 2005, wrote:

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how
much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....


Always there to save your drunken buddies eh asshole?


The writing style of our anonymous and spoofing poster is becoming apparent.



John H May 19th 05 12:46 PM

On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred wrote:

I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental to group harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post was designed to cause
conflict.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 19th 05 01:08 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:27:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Userbeam Remailer" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 19 May 2005, "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Haroldy" wrote in message
.. .

On 18 May 2005, wrote:


You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how
much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....

Always there to save your drunken buddies eh asshole?



The writing style of our anonymous and spoofing poster is becoming apparent.



Oh? Is it you? Smithers? Netsucker? Hertvik?


Harry, I notice you've started using your conflict inspiring signature line
again. Shoot, I was hoping you were coming around.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JimH May 19th 05 01:11 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:27:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Userbeam Remailer" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 19 May 2005, "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Haroldy" wrote in message
. ..

On 18 May 2005, wrote:


You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how
much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....

Always there to save your drunken buddies eh asshole?


The writing style of our anonymous and spoofing poster is becoming
apparent.



Oh? Is it you? Smithers? Netsucker? Hert?


Harry, I notice you've started using your conflict inspiring signature
line
again. Shoot, I was hoping you were coming around.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."



I told you so John. Harry Krause is hopelessly lost....let him self
destruct.



John H May 19th 05 01:12 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:51:10 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred wrote:


I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.




What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental to group harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post was designed to cause
conflict.



It only causes "conflict" if you read his crap, get upset and respond to
it. If you ignore it, it causes no conflict.

The only interesting aspect of the moron is, who is he when he uses his
normal rec.boats handle. Guesses so far: Netsock, "Smithers," Robbins,
Hertvik.

I just filter the trash out. When I logged in this AM, there were new
posts indicated, and when my filter strained them, there were about 20
left, including NONE from the anon asses and the rest of the useless.


Are you saying basskisser didn't post it? I didn't read more than the first
line, so don't really know anything about it.

My response was:

On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and pasted some off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but *was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!

I think the words I added were correct. His post has started a lot of name
calling.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JimH May 19th 05 01:18 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:51:10 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred
wrote:


I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have
a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you
stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental to group
harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post was designed
to cause
conflict.



It only causes "conflict" if you read his crap, get upset and respond to
it. If you ignore it, it causes no conflict.

The only interesting aspect of the moron is, who is he when he uses his
normal rec.boats handle. Guesses so far: Netsock, "Smithers," Robbins,
Her.

I just filter the trash out. When I logged in this AM, there were new
posts indicated, and when my filter strained them, there were about 20
left, including NONE from the anon asses and the rest of the useless.


Are you saying basskisser didn't post it? I didn't read more than the
first
line, so don't really know anything about it.

My response was:

On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and pasted some off
topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but *was*
intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!

I think the words I added were correct. His post has started a lot of name
calling.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Funny that Krause places me as a suspect. I would love to see his proof,
or that from anyone else.

It isn't me folks.



Doug Kanter May 19th 05 01:23 PM


"Timmy Tommy" wrote in message
news:WJK6YNIM38491.3432407407@anonymous...

Hmmm...."Tim", and then "Timmy Tommy" - I'm detecting a pattern here. ROFL!



John H May 19th 05 01:29 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:13:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:27:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:

"Userbeam Remailer" wrote in message
news:f82a2d6d61f6bfec765ab3941a798b6b@userbeam .net...


On Thu, 19 May 2005, "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"Haroldy" wrote in message
.. .


On 18 May 2005, wrote:



You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how
much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....

Always there to save your drunken buddies eh asshole?


The writing style of our anonymous and spoofing poster is becoming apparent.



Oh? Is it you? Smithers? Netsucker? Hertvik?



Harry, I notice you've started using your conflict inspiring signature line
again. Shoot, I was hoping you were coming around.



It is getting kind of old. I'll come up with a new one. There's no
shortage of "truths" to point out about Bush.


How about a good one about Parkers?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] May 19th 05 01:30 PM


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700, wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive

inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.


You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from

MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that

as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came from MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?


John H May 19th 05 01:31 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:18:43 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:51:10 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred
wrote:


I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have
a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you
stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental to group
harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post was designed
to cause
conflict.


It only causes "conflict" if you read his crap, get upset and respond to
it. If you ignore it, it causes no conflict.

The only interesting aspect of the moron is, who is he when he uses his
normal rec.boats handle. Guesses so far: Netsock, "Smithers," Robbins,
Her.

I just filter the trash out. When I logged in this AM, there were new
posts indicated, and when my filter strained them, there were about 20
left, including NONE from the anon asses and the rest of the useless.


Are you saying basskisser didn't post it? I didn't read more than the
first
line, so don't really know anything about it.

My response was:

On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and pasted some off
topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but *was*
intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!

I think the words I added were correct. His post has started a lot of name
calling.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Funny that Krause places me as a suspect. I would love to see his proof,
or that from anyone else.

It isn't me folks.


I don't think it's you or any of the regulars. (Although I *did* think
basskisser made the original post!)
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] May 19th 05 01:32 PM


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and pasted some

off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but

*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


[email protected] May 19th 05 01:34 PM


Alfred wrote:
I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you

have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you

stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.


I can tell, Smithers, by your inability to post anything without
profanity that you aren't too bright, but I have just as much right to
post anything here as you. So, there's your answer. Get it? Doubtful.


John H May 19th 05 01:34 PM

On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive

inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from

MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that

as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came from MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?


What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 19th 05 01:36 PM

On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but

*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


Bad hair day?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 19th 05 01:37 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:36:14 -0400, John H wrote:

On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but

*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


Bad hair day?


PS. I guess it *was* you that made the original post, unless this isn't really
you either.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] May 19th 05 01:37 PM


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive

inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't

from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a

random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes

that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you

should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came from

MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago

saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?


What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????


John H May 19th 05 01:48 PM

On 19 May 2005 05:37:50 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that excessive
inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't

from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a

random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes

that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you

should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came from

MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago

saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?


What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????


Is your name 'Kevin'?

If not, then I wasn't talking to you.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 19th 05 02:39 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:13:12 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:13:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


John H wrote:

On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:27:39 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:



Bert Robbins wrote:


"Userbeam Remailer" wrote in message
news:f82a2d6d61f6bfec765ab3941a798b6b@userbe am.net...



On Thu, 19 May 2005, "Doug Kanter" wrote:



"Haroldy" wrote in message
...



On 18 May 2005, wrote:




You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't from MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes that as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.


No ****ing wonder this group is a mess. You ****ing asshole. How many
quarts of booze did you suck down today?



Wait...you post the same message four times, and you're asking HIM how
much
booze he consumed today? Hmm. When you live in a glass house....

Always there to save your drunken buddies eh asshole?


The writing style of our anonymous and spoofing poster is becoming apparent.



Oh? Is it you? Smithers? Netsucker? Hertvik?


Harry, I notice you've started using your conflict inspiring signature line
again. Shoot, I was hoping you were coming around.


It is getting kind of old. I'll come up with a new one. There's no
shortage of "truths" to point out about Bush.



How about a good one about Parkers?



Peter Pecker Picked a Pack of Purple Parkers?


Peter *PIPER*...

Get your mind out of the gutter. But yeah, that's much better.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Doug Kanter May 19th 05 02:54 PM

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:36:14 -0400, John H
wrote:

On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but
*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


Bad hair day?


PS. I guess it *was* you that made the original post, unless this isn't
really
you either.


The moon is approaching full soon..... :-)



John H May 19th 05 02:58 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:11:32 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:51:10 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


John H wrote:

On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred wrote:



I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think think you have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole? **** off you stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental to group harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post was designed to cause
conflict.


It only causes "conflict" if you read his crap, get upset and respond to
it. If you ignore it, it causes no conflict.

The only interesting aspect of the moron is, who is he when he uses his
normal rec.boats handle. Guesses so far: Netsock, "Smithers," Robbins,
Hertvik.

I just filter the trash out. When I logged in this AM, there were new
posts indicated, and when my filter strained them, there were about 20
left, including NONE from the anon asses and the rest of the useless.



Are you saying basskisser didn't post it? I didn't read more than the first
line, so don't really know anything about it.



No, I don't believe Basskisser is the anon "Smithers."


Yeah, but he posted the original article. Otherwise why would he have gotten so
bent out of shape about my comment regarding the original post?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 19th 05 03:13 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:54:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:36:14 -0400, John H
wrote:

On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but
*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?

Bad hair day?


PS. I guess it *was* you that made the original post, unless this isn't
really
you either.


The moon is approaching full soon..... :-)


I was wondering....
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] May 19th 05 03:21 PM


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:37:50 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that

excessive
inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't

from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a

random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes

that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you

should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came

from
MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular

writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago

saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?

What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????


Is your name 'Kevin'?

If not, then I wasn't talking to you.

--
John H

John, if you wasn't talking to me, then why to hell did you REPLY TO
ME?????


John H May 19th 05 03:28 PM

On 19 May 2005 07:21:01 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:37:50 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message

roups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that

excessive
inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't
from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a
random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes
that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you
should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came

from
MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular

writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago
saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?

What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????


Is your name 'Kevin'?

If not, then I wasn't talking to you.

--
John H

John, if you wasn't talking to me, then why to hell did you REPLY TO
ME?????


Your post was a convenient way to get a message to Kevin about the garbage being
posted.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Mary May 20th 05 01:01 AM

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

My, my, what a bad little stinker you are! If you didn't expect anyone to
reply to your post, why did you post it? Just being an asshole, retarded,
****ing, troublemaker?



On 19 May 2005, wrote:
John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:37:50 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message

roups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that

excessive
inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines aren't
from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something, a
random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow processes
that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you
should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff came

from
MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular

writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days ago
saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?

What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????


Is your name 'Kevin'?

If not, then I wasn't talking to you.

--
John H

John, if you wasn't talking to me, then why to hell did you REPLY TO
ME?????




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[email protected] May 20th 05 04:51 PM


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 07:21:01 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:37:50 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:30:16 -0700,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:04:26 -0700,
wrote:


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message

roups.com...

Smoke Pot, Not E-mail - In which it is proven that

excessive
inf...
05/13/2005
My Totally Gay Boy Scout Leader -


Interesting topics in your headers, Kevin:
1) smoking Pot
and
2)gay boy scout leaders.

You sure do live a sordid lifestyle.

You're showing your ignorance again, NOYB. Those lines

aren't
from
MY
HEADER!!!!!! What an idiot, as soon as you read something,

a
random
thought pops into your skull, and your brain somehow

processes
that
as
truth and fact. It's strange how an addled mind works.

Same trick, different machine. Please stop, Kevin.
--
John H

My names not Kevin, John. But, you are dead wrong. Perhaps you
should
read a little before spewing garbage. NOYB said that stuff

came
from
MY
HEADER. With me so far? Okay, now. It DIDN'T. It came from the
article's WEBPAGE. It is simply a list of this particular

writer's
previous pieces. Get it now? Now, do you remember a few days

ago
saying
that someone needs to be invited to a thread? Who invited you?

What made you think I was talking to you?
--
John H

Perhaps because YOU REPLIED TO MY POST?????? Ya think?????

Is your name 'Kevin'?

If not, then I wasn't talking to you.

--
John H

John, if you wasn't talking to me, then why to hell did you REPLY TO
ME?????


Your post was a convenient way to get a message to Kevin about the

garbage being
posted.
--
John H

John, just what garbage is Kevin posting?


[email protected] May 20th 05 05:35 PM


John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted

some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but

*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


Bad hair day?
--
John H


John, those were quoted directly from YOU, John!!!! Now, you've stated
over and over to others here that name calling isn't good for group
harmony, doesn't help the tone of the group, etc. But, it seems it's
okay for YOU to do it, huh? And, what about your statement that I
wasn't "invited" to a particular discussion. Must everyone here be
"invited"? Sure would be a short thread that way.... What if someone
were to ask a question? Would they have to "invite" just who they
wanted to answer that question?


JimH May 20th 05 05:38 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted

some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but
*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?


Bad hair day?
--
John H


John, those were quoted directly from YOU, John!!!! Now, you've stated
over and over to others here that name calling isn't good for group
harmony, doesn't help the tone of the group, etc. But, it seems it's
okay for YOU to do it, huh? And, what about your statement that I
wasn't "invited" to a particular discussion. Must everyone here be
"invited"? Sure would be a short thread that way.... What if someone
were to ask a question? Would they have to "invite" just who they
wanted to answer that question?


Do you really have to post here day after day with this attitude of yours?
It is really getting old Kevin. Try a positive attitude for a change....you
will like it.



P.Fritz May 20th 05 05:53 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 05:32:34 -0700, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700,
cut and pasted

some
off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the newsgroup, but
*was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Hmm, here's where I'll use YOUR tactic for "changing the tone of the
newsgroup"

BULL****! HORSE****! YOU'RE A ****ING LIAR! Sound familiar, John?
That's YOUR idea of changing the "tone of the newsgroup", huh?

Bad hair day?
--
John H


John, those were quoted directly from YOU, John!!!! Now, you've stated
over and over to others here that name calling isn't good for group
harmony, doesn't help the tone of the group, etc. But, it seems it's
okay for YOU to do it, huh? And, what about your statement that I
wasn't "invited" to a particular discussion. Must everyone here be
"invited"? Sure would be a short thread that way.... What if someone
were to ask a question? Would they have to "invite" just who they
wanted to answer that question?


Do you really have to post here day after day with this attitude of yours?
It is really getting old Kevin. Try a positive attitude for a
change....you will like it.


Kevin is smarting over geting bitch slapped for not knowing the definition
of slander.






JimH May 20th 05 06:15 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...
John H wrote in
:

On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:18:43 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:51:10 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:

John H wrote:
On 19 May 2005 01:18:33 -0000, Alfred
wrote:


I am top posting to be rude. Where the **** do you think
think you have a
right to post this **** to a boating newsgroup asshole?
**** off you stupid
*******. Get a ****ing life.



What kind of language is that? Name-calling is detrimental
to group harmony. I
do, however, *totally* agree with your sentiment. The post
was designed to cause
conflict.


It only causes "conflict" if you read his crap, get upset
and respond to it. If you ignore it, it causes no conflict.

The only interesting aspect of the moron is, who is he when
he uses his normal rec.boats handle. Guesses so far:
Netsock, "Smithers," Robbins, Her.

I just filter the trash out. When I logged in this AM, there
were new posts indicated, and when my filter strained them,
there were about 20 left, including NONE from the anon asses
and the rest of the useless.

Are you saying basskisser didn't post it? I didn't read more
than the first
line, so don't really know anything about it.

My response was:

On 18 May 2005 06:02:42 -0700, cut and
pasted some off topic
trash which did nothing to enhance the tone of the
newsgroup, but *was* intended
to create more political conflict.

For shame!

I think the words I added were correct. His post has started
a lot of name calling.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Funny that Krause places me as a suspect. I would love to
see his proof, or that from anyone else.

It isn't me folks.


I don't think it's you or any of the regulars. (Although I
*did* think basskisser made the original post!)




You're dazed and confused as usual.


I did not make that post. The ass has now assumed my identity. I will be
changing my handle shortly. Future posts made by JimH are not by me.




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