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May 15th 05 07:52 PM

Fuel Filter Question
 
Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary



Dan Krueger May 17th 05 12:40 AM

Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water
from the filter and extend its life. These are made for marine use and
won't remove any oil in the process since they are made for that. They
will also screw on to a conventional filter fitting. Just make sure you
have a little extra room underneath for the bowl and to access it for
drainage. I always wondered how people would know when the other
filters were full of water and needed changing.

More info...

http://www.parker.com/racor/spn_product.html

Dan


wrote:

Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary



John H May 17th 05 01:37 AM

On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:40:29 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water
from the filter and extend its life. These are made for marine use and
won't remove any oil in the process since they are made for that. They
will also screw on to a conventional filter fitting. Just make sure you
have a little extra room underneath for the bowl and to access it for
drainage. I always wondered how people would know when the other
filters were full of water and needed changing.

More info...

http://www.parker.com/racor/spn_product.html

Dan


wrote:

Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary


Which of those do you use, Dan?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Dan Krueger May 18th 05 01:05 AM

Mine isn't pictured - it has a blue-tinted bowl. They are still in
stores in that color so maybe it's pictured elsewhere on their site. It
works very well. You can drain the collected water into an empty can
but it also has barbs for a small diameter piece of tubing. I guess
that would work best in close quarters.

John H wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:40:29 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water


from the filter and extend its life. These are made for marine use and


won't remove any oil in the process since they are made for that. They
will also screw on to a conventional filter fitting. Just make sure you
have a little extra room underneath for the bowl and to access it for
drainage. I always wondered how people would know when the other
filters were full of water and needed changing.

More info...

http://www.parker.com/racor/spn_product.html

Dan


wrote:


Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary



Which of those do you use, Dan?


Dan Krueger May 18th 05 01:08 AM

I found it...

http://tinyurl.com/7slsk

Dan


John H wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:40:29 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water


from the filter and extend its life. These are made for marine use and


won't remove any oil in the process since they are made for that. They
will also screw on to a conventional filter fitting. Just make sure you
have a little extra room underneath for the bowl and to access it for
drainage. I always wondered how people would know when the other
filters were full of water and needed changing.

More info...

http://www.parker.com/racor/spn_product.html

Dan


wrote:


Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary



Which of those do you use, Dan?


John H May 18th 05 01:45 AM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 00:08:01 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

I found it...

http://tinyurl.com/7slsk

Dan


John H wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:40:29 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water


from the filter and extend its life. These are made for marine use and


won't remove any oil in the process since they are made for that. They
will also screw on to a conventional filter fitting. Just make sure you
have a little extra room underneath for the bowl and to access it for
drainage. I always wondered how people would know when the other
filters were full of water and needed changing.

More info...

http://www.parker.com/racor/spn_product.html

Dan


wrote:


Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary



Which of those do you use, Dan?


Thanks Dan. I'm surprised that the see-thru isn't authorized for an inboard.
Hell, that's what I was looking for.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Larry Kier May 18th 05 07:41 AM

Racor makes a model for inboard/stern drives. It has a metal bowl (you
can't see through it but it has the dtrain plug)

Larry

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 May 2005 00:08:01 GMT, Dan Krueger

wrote:

I found it...

http://tinyurl.com/7slsk

Dan


John H wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:40:29 GMT, Dan Krueger

wrote:


Oil filters are made of paper. Maybe the filter your discussed with him
is different. In any case, the Racor filters are the way to go. They
have a clear bowl at the bottom that will allow you to drain any water


Thanks Dan. I'm surprised that the see-thru isn't authorized for an
inboard.
Hell, that's what I was looking for.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Billgran May 18th 05 11:59 AM




Thanks Dan. I'm surprised that the see-thru isn't authorized for an
inboard.
Hell, that's what I was looking for.
--




Federal regulations state that all fuel system components withstand a 2 1/2
minute fire test, along with other specs, if used in a boat with an enclosed
gasoline engine. The plastic bowl filter would be illegal and very unsafe.
The approved Racor filter elements use the thicker steel shell and have the
letters UL after the part number. Don't skimp on safety. Please get familiar
with the laws and standard practices of fuel and electrical items in a boat,
not only to prevent explosions, but to possibly save the lives of yourself,
your loved ones, and innocent bystanders.

Bill Grannis
service manager



Netsock May 18th 05 01:22 PM


wrote in message
...
Several years ago I bought an older boat with a 150 Yamaha, I found out
after several runs offshore that there was trash in the fuel tank because
the filter kept plugging up in choppy water. I told a friend that I was
going to get a bunch of larger universal fuel filters and just throw them
away until I get all the trash out of the fuel tank. The guy said not to

use
paper filters because it filters the oil out of the gas. Is that true? Has
anyone else heard of that?
Thanks
Gary


Hogwash.

Even if it did trap oil first, it could only hold so much, and then it would
let the rest pass.

I've used paper filters since 1970, on many outboards...no problems.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



John H May 18th 05 07:57 PM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 10:59:38 GMT, "Billgran"
wrote:




Thanks Dan. I'm surprised that the see-thru isn't authorized for an
inboard.
Hell, that's what I was looking for.
--




Federal regulations state that all fuel system components withstand a 2 1/2
minute fire test, along with other specs, if used in a boat with an enclosed
gasoline engine. The plastic bowl filter would be illegal and very unsafe.
The approved Racor filter elements use the thicker steel shell and have the
letters UL after the part number. Don't skimp on safety. Please get familiar
with the laws and standard practices of fuel and electrical items in a boat,
not only to prevent explosions, but to possibly save the lives of yourself,
your loved ones, and innocent bystanders.

Bill Grannis
service manager

Thanks Bill. Once I saw that it wasn't approved for my inboard, I wasn't
planning to buy it. I didn't know about the 2 1/2 minute fire test either.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


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