Hey Chuck - some digital camera observations
 

Ok, just because Kanter complained last time, this post is boating
related because the picture below was taken today with the new digital
slr.

http://www.swsports.org/images/fishing.JPG

And just for Kanter's amusement :)

http://www.swsports.org/images/fordougsyesonly.JPG

Now, on to the show.

If you are planning on obtaining a digital SLR, get prepared for a
really steep learning curve, in particular if you have any kind of
developing experience.

These slr's are basically a miniature photo lab in a 35mm sized box.
they also don't behave in the same way as a standard 35mm slr. You
don't necessarily get what you see unless you are really clued into
what makes a decent photo and what doesn't. You have to be really
familiar with color temps, white balance, DOF, etc.

The following is a unretouched photo taken with the small telephoto
(45-150mm). The ISO was set at 200 with 1/100 shutter speed @ F3.5.
640X480 frame @ 1:2.7 compression rate.

http://www.swsports.org/images/hillside.JPG

It's a little out of focus, but that's because that hill was about a
1/2 mile from where I was standing and my hands were shaking.

This is another unretouched photo taken of that same hill from
alongside the pond.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection.JPG

A little closer with the long lens.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection2.JPG

Just for yucks.

http://www.swsports.org/images/trellistree2.jpg

It's going to be a while before I get any pictures worth bragging
rights - I really need to change gears and take a lot of frames.

Speaking of which, I've put about 300 images, from 1:1 resolution at
3200X2800 to the above mentioned size also using the motor drive at
the rowing race this afternoon and the battery lasted and did it's job
just fine. I would suggest getting a second battery though - when
it's dead, it's dead - no warning.

So, if you need any more information, I'll be glad to send it along as
I discover more interesting things.

I'll tell you this flat out - it's one hell of a camera. I wish I was
one hell of a photographer to make use of it.

Later,

Tom

That is an awesome place, what state is that in ? Thats my ideal retirement
home lol
Thanks for sharing

Ed
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Ok, just because Kanter complained last time, this post is boating
related because the picture below was taken today with the new digital
slr.

http://www.swsports.org/images/fishing.JPG

And just for Kanter's amusement :)

http://www.swsports.org/images/fordougsyesonly.JPG

Now, on to the show.

If you are planning on obtaining a digital SLR, get prepared for a
really steep learning curve, in particular if you have any kind of
developing experience.

These slr's are basically a miniature photo lab in a 35mm sized box.
they also don't behave in the same way as a standard 35mm slr. You
don't necessarily get what you see unless you are really clued into
what makes a decent photo and what doesn't. You have to be really
familiar with color temps, white balance, DOF, etc.

The following is a unretouched photo taken with the small telephoto
(45-150mm). The ISO was set at 200 with 1/100 shutter speed @ F3.5.
640X480 frame @ 1:2.7 compression rate.

http://www.swsports.org/images/hillside.JPG

It's a little out of focus, but that's because that hill was about a
1/2 mile from where I was standing and my hands were shaking.

This is another unretouched photo taken of that same hill from
alongside the pond.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection.JPG

A little closer with the long lens.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection2.JPG

Just for yucks.

http://www.swsports.org/images/trellistree2.jpg

It's going to be a while before I get any pictures worth bragging
rights - I really need to change gears and take a lot of frames.

Speaking of which, I've put about 300 images, from 1:1 resolution at
3200X2800 to the above mentioned size also using the motor drive at
the rowing race this afternoon and the battery lasted and did it's job
just fine. I would suggest getting a second battery though - when
it's dead, it's dead - no warning.

So, if you need any more information, I'll be glad to send it along as
I discover more interesting things.

I'll tell you this flat out - it's one hell of a camera. I wish I was
one hell of a photographer to make use of it.

Later,

Tom

On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:13:43 -0700, "ed"
wrote:

That is an awesome place, what state is that in ? Thats my ideal retirement
home lol

It's rural NE Connecticut and you do not wish to retire here. Go
away. Here there be dragons. :)

The hill pic and the beefer at the pond are the farm next to my
property - he's in Pomfret, I'm in Woodstock. The beefers are those
fancy grass only fed kind which fetch unbelievable prices at market.
That farmer has made a ton of money doing that for very little effort.
He does all the haying on my field - sells my first cut for me and
buys the second, third and if I'm lucky, sells the fourth cut to the
horsie set.

The trellis trees are the new style trees in the orchard across the
lake from me and the crew picture was taken at the lake across the
street.

Oh, and just in case you are coming up this way, be aware - we have a
history of "losing" rubber necking foreigners up here in the country.
Just never can seem to find them when we misplace them. :)

Later,

Tom

I'll tell you this flat out - it's one hell of a camera. I wish I was
one hell of a photographer to make use of it.

Later,

Tom

I looked twice... did I miss it? What kind of camera?

JR
Nikon D100 and a D2H for me.

Thanks.

I'm still of the "notify when in stock" list on that Olympus deal.

Took a little 5 megapixel point&shoot out to the tugboat races today
and I think I got some good photos. (Don't like to take the real gear
into mayhem like that, too much potential for dropping overboard or
damage)

On Sun, 15 May 2005 02:31:47 GMT, "JR_FXLR"
wrote:




I'll tell you this flat out - it's one hell of a camera. I wish I was
one hell of a photographer to make use of it.

Later,

Tom

I looked twice... did I miss it? What kind of camera?

Sorry - my bad. We had been discussing my new Olympus E-100 - it's my
first digital slr and I'm having a blast with it.

Later,

Tom

On Sun, 15 May 2005 01:05:25 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Ok, just because Kanter complained last time, this post is boating
related because the picture below was taken today with the new digital
slr.

http://www.swsports.org/images/fishing.JPG

And just for Kanter's amusement :)

http://www.swsports.org/images/fordougsyesonly.JPG

Now, on to the show.

If you are planning on obtaining a digital SLR, get prepared for a
really steep learning curve, in particular if you have any kind of
developing experience.

These slr's are basically a miniature photo lab in a 35mm sized box.
they also don't behave in the same way as a standard 35mm slr. You
don't necessarily get what you see unless you are really clued into
what makes a decent photo and what doesn't. You have to be really
familiar with color temps, white balance, DOF, etc.

The following is a unretouched photo taken with the small telephoto
(45-150mm). The ISO was set at 200 with 1/100 shutter speed @ F3.5.
640X480 frame @ 1:2.7 compression rate.

http://www.swsports.org/images/hillside.JPG

It's a little out of focus, but that's because that hill was about a
1/2 mile from where I was standing and my hands were shaking.

This is another unretouched photo taken of that same hill from
alongside the pond.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection.JPG

A little closer with the long lens.

http://www.swsports.org/images/reflection2.JPG

Just for yucks.

http://www.swsports.org/images/trellistree2.jpg

It's going to be a while before I get any pictures worth bragging
rights - I really need to change gears and take a lot of frames.

Speaking of which, I've put about 300 images, from 1:1 resolution at
3200X2800 to the above mentioned size also using the motor drive at
the rowing race this afternoon and the battery lasted and did it's job
just fine. I would suggest getting a second battery though - when
it's dead, it's dead - no warning.

So, if you need any more information, I'll be glad to send it along as
I discover more interesting things.

I'll tell you this flat out - it's one hell of a camera. I wish I was
one hell of a photographer to make use of it.

Later,

Tom

I've had mine over a year, and I learn something new every time I play with it.
Lately I've had fun shooting flowers in the yard, using manual focus and various
f-stops to see what happens to the depth of field.

Hell, it took a couple hours of reading and playing just to figure out how the
damn focusing options work!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 14 May 2005 20:57:55 -0700, wrote:

Thanks.

I'm still of the "notify when in stock" list on that Olympus deal.

Took a little 5 megapixel point&shoot out to the tugboat races today
and I think I got some good photos. (Don't like to take the real gear
into mayhem like that, too much potential for dropping overboard or
damage)

When the Nikon D70's came out, there was a waiting list at the store. By paying
for the camera when I had my name added to the list, I got it with the first
shipment. Could save a little time.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Damn an invite like that I just gotta pack up and head that way. I can
become your neighbor lmao
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:13:43 -0700, "ed"
wrote:

That is an awesome place, what state is that in ? Thats my ideal
retirement
home lol

It's rural NE Connecticut and you do not wish to retire here. Go
away. Here there be dragons. :)

The hill pic and the beefer at the pond are the farm next to my
property - he's in Pomfret, I'm in Woodstock. The beefers are those
fancy grass only fed kind which fetch unbelievable prices at market.
That farmer has made a ton of money doing that for very little effort.
He does all the haying on my field - sells my first cut for me and
buys the second, third and if I'm lucky, sells the fourth cut to the
horsie set.

The trellis trees are the new style trees in the orchard across the
lake from me and the crew picture was taken at the lake across the
street.

Oh, and just in case you are coming up this way, be aware - we have a
history of "losing" rubber necking foreigners up here in the country.
Just never can seem to find them when we misplace them. :)

Later,

Tom

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Sorry - my bad. We had been discussing my new Olympus E-100 - it's my
first digital slr and I'm having a blast with it.

Later,

Tom

It took me a bit to get used to waiting for the auto focus to do it's
job. Both my Minolta SRT200 SLR and my Yashica'D' medium format camera
are fully manual......and yes, I still prefer manual focus!

http://www.swsports.org/images=AD/fishing.JPG


And just for Kanter's amusement :)


http://www.swsports.org/images=AD/fordougsyesonly.JPG


*************

Question about these two photos:

Did you tweak the color saturation? The two folks in the fishing boat
are wearing a *very* orange hat and a *very* orange pfd- while the
wooded hill on the far side of the lake is a particularly vibrant shade
of green. Very nice shot, but I'm just curious if that's the default
setting for color sat- or not.

On Sun, 15 May 2005 01:05:25 GMT, Shortwave
Sportfishing wrote:

Ok, just because Kanter complained last time,

I only like pics of my mom!


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On 15 May 2005 08:31:37 -0700, wrote:

http://www.swsports.org/images?fishing.JPG


And just for Kanter's amusement :)


http://www.swsports.org/images?fordougsyesonly.JPG


*************

Question about these two photos:

Did you tweak the color saturation? The two folks in the fishing boat
are wearing a *very* orange hat and a *very* orange pfd- while the
wooded hill on the far side of the lake is a particularly vibrant shade
of green. Very nice shot, but I'm just curious if that's the default
setting for color sat- or not.

That's a good question. I didn't tweak the colors - that's the way it
came out of the camera. However, I tweaked the sharpness a tad and
that seems to make things jump out at you.

That's one of the things I was talking about when I was talking about
having a full boat image processor built right into the camera - it's
a little hard to get used to.

Later,

Tom

Thomas Rangier wrote:

Strange as it may seem, I don't own an digital camera though I have been
thinking about one. I still use an old manual focus 35 mm Minolta SLR that I
bought just before my first child was born.

When you consider I have 2 computers wireless networked in the house, the
main a Sony Vaio equipped to read every type of camera memory stick or
cartridge in use today, multi external hard drives, a complete 200 watt rms
stereo sound system for it, a VPN connection to the office computer, a
Blackberry, several GPS's, including Garmins with loadable routable maps for
driving that give turn by turn directions, A Cetrek autopilot on the boat
connected to a GPS, 2 marine radio's, a fixed mount and walkie talkie, and
just about every other electronic toy out there, well one of these days I'll
buy a digital camera. One of the reasons I enjoy the threads about them
here.

Thomas

I like using my HP R707 5mp camera for exchanging boat pictures with
other Sandpiper 565 owners. As they say...one picture is worth......

On Sun, 15 May 2005 14:23:18 GMT, Don White wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Sorry - my bad. We had been discussing my new Olympus E-100 - it's my
first digital slr and I'm having a blast with it.

Later,

Tom

It took me a bit to get used to waiting for the auto focus to do it's
job. Both my Minolta SRT200 SLR and my Yashica'D' medium format camera
are fully manual......and yes, I still prefer manual focus!

Perhaps the thing I like most about the Nikon is that the auto focus, when I use
it, is almost instantaneous. The motor is built into the lens, and there is no
wait. That's even true of the Nikon 70-200 mm zoom.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 15 May 2005 11:22:15 -0400, Thomas Rangier nospam@nospam wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 14:23:18 GMT, Don White wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Sorry - my bad. We had been discussing my new Olympus E-100 - it's my
first digital slr and I'm having a blast with it.

Later,

Tom

It took me a bit to get used to waiting for the auto focus to do it's
job. Both my Minolta SRT200 SLR and my Yashica'D' medium format camera
are fully manual......and yes, I still prefer manual focus!

Strange as it may seem, I don't own an digital camera though I have been
thinking about one. I still use an old manual focus 35 mm Minolta SLR that I
bought just before my first child was born.

When you consider I have 2 computers wireless networked in the house, the
main a Sony Vaio equipped to read every type of camera memory stick or
cartridge in use today, multi external hard drives, a complete 200 watt rms
stereo sound system for it, a VPN connection to the office computer, a
Blackberry, several GPS's, including Garmins with loadable routable maps for
driving that give turn by turn directions, A Cetrek autopilot on the boat
connected to a GPS, 2 marine radio's, a fixed mount and walkie talkie, and
just about every other electronic toy out there, well one of these days I'll
buy a digital camera. One of the reasons I enjoy the threads about them
here.

Thomas

The convenience is what finally got me to the point where I don't use the 35mm
at all anymore. It's so nice to take some shots and see them blown up on the
computer almost immediately. I have a Canon i960 printer that makes great
looking 8x10 prints, and it isn't the best printer out there. If I'm worried
about fading, I'll go to Costco and have the prints made there - 19 cents for a
4x6.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."