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"FishFan" wrote in message om... " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Harry,, member of the local brother hood of union slobs. This explains your comments on economics. See, your acceptance to any job is based on your union membership. NOT your personal skills. Your being remunerated or compensated is simply based on your collective bargaining power and NOT your personal knowledge. I wouldn't want to be in that humiliating position. One where you can not earn a position or job, you have to be awarded it based on your union membership. I bet you hang your head up high there Harry, if that is all you got. Shameful. Do you know that you are directly responsible for job migration? What do you think of your buddy Kerry and his promise to handsomely give tax credits to businesses that remain in America? That will fool all you union dummies into voting for him. Don't you think that will economically collapse the U.S. in a rather quick time frame? But you union members are not known for your education levels, just your ability to strike, collectively fight the leadership and ownership. Certainly explains a lot there harry,,, flash your union card, membership with the local brotherhood of dummies and slobs local 101. "Jim" wrote in message link.net... They left out the Iraq war and the impassioned plea to "Disarm Saddam". I wonder how they left that out? Eisboch wrote: Thought maybe you might need some cheering up .... :) http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/...ush1_Start.htm Eisboch Tuuk, Way to hit the nail on the head - pun intended. I always wondered how union guys could look themselves in the mirror knowing that they have no instrinsicly worthy skills but only the power of union thuggerey to ensure their employment and wages. Yeah, I guess its good earning $38.24 an hour to be a ditch digger ($57.26 on OT and $77.48 on Holidays), but its got to be demoaralizing to look at the non-union sites and see minimum wage earning wetbacks who can't even speak english doing just as good a job... or better. Sluggo BTW - you can substitue framer, laborer, carpenter, auto worker, "Heavy Equipment Operator" or truck driver for ditch digger. Skilled construction labor (carpenters, masons, electricians, equipment operators, plumbers) earn every bit of their pay, especially when working in freezing temperatures or extreme heat and humidity. They also operate in a fairly dangerous environment. I cannot say the same of the unskilled/semi skilled union factory workers, especially when you have a janitor at an auto plant making more than a teacher. |
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ecr wrote:
Here's an interesting link concerning unions. http://www.nationalreview.com/ Ah, yes, a tome from a publication whose interest is in the subjugation of the working class. |
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Ya, I have always had a grudge against unions, a while back I was a machine
mechanic keeping machines running at a bottling department in a winery. I say thousands of wine bottles go by per day and when a machine broke down I would repair it, or keep them maintained. If I wasn't fixing a machine I was maintaining them. Not like the union slobs who will only fix, then read the newspaper. I had to keep working, doing something when everything was working. Anyway, I was new and it was a union shop, once per month the boss would come to me and lay me off for a day. This kept me out of the union. Should I have worked 30 days consecutive, then I qualified for union membership. So, the boss didn't want me to be laid off for a day and this would have parachuted me into the union, it was my turn. I asked for the lay off, I did not want on the union. They let me go. I went to a plant that prints the National Enquirer magazine (or one of those monthly papers, and a few other flyers). Same thing, maintaining their presses and printers. Good job, very good money, but came time for me to join the union. That was the rules. So I had to go. But because of this, I received such a better job, sales and customer service, and my income doubled and I continued school. The best things that ever happened to me. By the way, the winery went tits up near 10 years ago, and the printing press company is now moving their equipment to Mexico. So, see, I could have been a union slob myself,, they tried to screw me then and they continue to try now. So from my own experience, I can honestly say that unions did me no good, now I can see that they have done the entire continent no good. Except themselves, at that time. They lived for the day, now, no vision, no proactive or long term strategies. Just what can we get right now attitude. For themselves. Very selfish people and it is in their blood, it is in their way of living. And now, now that all the jobs are migrating to more labor friendly and laborer co-operative countries, the union slobs here (who are 100% to blame for this) will blame Bush. LOL,, I never thought any of those slobs were too smart. Not even as a whole. Ever saw the movie the Great White Hope? With Bob White? LOL,,, about 10 years or 15 year old movie. Ya gotta see these morons. Harry's heroes. I remember being in a plant, and I privately called in to repair some machine that my company supplied to the Auto Industry. Buzz Hargrove walked through the plant. All the workers applauded this guy as he walked through. Talk about puppets and puppet masters. So Harry, Don, Asskisser and the other one are actually puppets. And your right, they have no intrinsic personal skills that add value to an operation. Definitely not at a competitive rate anyway. Proof there is that their labor is easily replaced with off shore labor. Then the morons are here trying to give advice or make OT comments about political situations. LOL, I always find it funny that those who know the least, speak the loudest as if they knew the most. I never did think these boys were too smart. "FishFan" wrote in message om... " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Harry,, member of the local brother hood of union slobs. This explains your comments on economics. See, your acceptance to any job is based on your union membership. NOT your personal skills. Your being remunerated or compensated is simply based on your collective bargaining power and NOT your personal knowledge. I wouldn't want to be in that humiliating position. One where you can not earn a position or job, you have to be awarded it based on your union membership. I bet you hang your head up high there Harry, if that is all you got. Shameful. Do you know that you are directly responsible for job migration? What do you think of your buddy Kerry and his promise to handsomely give tax credits to businesses that remain in America? That will fool all you union dummies into voting for him. Don't you think that will economically collapse the U.S. in a rather quick time frame? But you union members are not known for your education levels, just your ability to strike, collectively fight the leadership and ownership. Certainly explains a lot there harry,,, flash your union card, membership with the local brotherhood of dummies and slobs local 101. "Jim" wrote in message link.net... They left out the Iraq war and the impassioned plea to "Disarm Saddam". I wonder how they left that out? Eisboch wrote: Thought maybe you might need some cheering up .... :) http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/...ush1_Start.htm Eisboch Tuuk, Way to hit the nail on the head - pun intended. I always wondered how union guys could look themselves in the mirror knowing that they have no instrinsicly worthy skills but only the power of union thuggerey to ensure their employment and wages. Yeah, I guess its good earning $38.24 an hour to be a ditch digger ($57.26 on OT and $77.48 on Holidays), but its got to be demoaralizing to look at the non-union sites and see minimum wage earning wetbacks who can't even speak english doing just as good a job... or better. Sluggo BTW - you can substitue framer, laborer, carpenter, auto worker, "Heavy Equipment Operator" or truck driver for ditch digger. |
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Tuuk wrote:
Ya, I have always had a grudge against unions, a while back I was a machine mechanic keeping machines running at a bottling department in a winery. I say thousands of wine bottles go by per day and when a machine broke down I would repair it, or keep them maintained. If I wasn't fixing a machine I was maintaining them. Not like the union slobs who will only fix, then read the newspaper. I had to keep working, doing something when everything was working. Anyway, I was new and it was a union shop, once per month the boss would come to me and lay me off for a day. This kept me out of the union. Should I have worked 30 days consecutive, then I qualified for union membership. So, the boss didn't want me to be laid off for a day and this would have parachuted me into the union, it was my turn. I asked for the lay off, I did not want on the union. They let me go. I went to a plant that prints the National Enquirer magazine (or one of those monthly papers, and a few other flyers). Same thing, maintaining their presses and printers. Good job, very good money, but came time for me to join the union. That was the rules. So I had to go. But because of this, I received such a better job, sales and customer service, and my income doubled and I continued school. The best things that ever happened to me. By the way, the winery went tits up near 10 years ago, and the printing press company is now moving their equipment to Mexico. So, see, I could have been a union slob myself,, they tried to screw me then and they continue to try now. So from my own experience, I can honestly say that unions did me no good, now I can see that they have done the entire continent no good. Except themselves, at that time. They lived for the day, now, no vision, no proactive or long term strategies. Just what can we get right now attitude. For themselves. Very selfish people and it is in their blood, it is in their way of living. And now, now that all the jobs are migrating to more labor friendly and laborer co-operative countries, the union slobs here (who are 100% to blame for this) will blame Bush. LOL,, I never thought any of those slobs were too smart. Not even as a whole. Ever saw the movie the Great White Hope? With Bob White? LOL,,, about 10 years or 15 year old movie. Ya gotta see these morons. Harry's heroes. I remember being in a plant, and I privately called in to repair some machine that my company supplied to the Auto Industry. Buzz Hargrove walked through the plant. All the workers applauded this guy as he walked through. Talk about puppets and puppet masters. So Harry, Don, Asskisser and the other one are actually puppets. And your right, they have no intrinsic personal skills that add value to an operation. Definitely not at a competitive rate anyway. Proof there is that their labor is easily replaced with off shore labor. Then the morons are here trying to give advice or make OT comments about political situations. LOL, I always find it funny that those who know the least, speak the loudest as if they knew the most. I never did think these boys were too smart. You're in sales and customer service? You are fairly close to functionally illiterate. What are you selling? BTW, the Great White Hope is a movie at least 30 years old, starring James Earl Jones, the terrific actor, playing Jack Johnson. And your buddy Buzz recently was re-elected by acclimation. You're a loser, fellow. Your history reads as if you are a malcontent who couldn't keep a job longer than 30 days. |
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Harry,
I was asking you. Curious since you favor collective bargaining but seem to despise professional sports or at least their compensation. I'm not sure how important the player's issues are since they make a hell of a lot of money anyway. In this case should a good player get the same pay increase as a poor player? That seems to be the case in any union situation and that is the biggest problem I have with it. The top producers in the unions who I have talked to (not football) share the same sentiment. Dan Harry Krause wrote: Dan Krueger wrote: Are you for or against collective bargaining in the NFL? Harry Krause wrote: Backyard Renegade wrote: Harry Krause wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Thought maybe you might need some cheering up .... :) http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/...ush1_Start.htm Eisboch Cripes...he can't even hold a hammer properly. What a stunatz! I dunno, my dad was a master finish carpenter and I actually use hammers all day. You on the other hand are nothing but a troll liar who has probably never done a days work in his life, I doubt you would know which end of the hammer goes up your ass... Actually, I wouldn't know which end of a hammer one puts up one's butt. But I'm certain you know. As for mechanical job skills (that seems to be what you are alluding to in your semi-literate post), I have in my wallet a card with my name on it for one of the skilled building trades unions that one can only get after either completing a four-to-five year apprenticeship program OR passing a four day classroom and practical skills examination and demonstration. I am a member in good standing in that union, but my status is inactive. I could in very short order weld together from rebar a nice little cage in which to display you as a close relative of the missing link. You do have that sloping forehead, right? Are you asking me? I don't follow professional football, so I am not familiar with the issues of the players, but I am in favor of collective bargaining. |
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Dan Krueger wrote:
Harry, I was asking you. Curious since you favor collective bargaining but seem to despise professional sports or at least their compensation. I don't despise pro sports. Most of it simply does not interest me. I'm not sure how important the player's issues are since they make a hell of a lot of money anyway. For the most part, the CB agreements provide only a minimum salary...no one is prevented from paying or receiving more. But there are many other tersm and conditions that are covered. In this case should a good player get the same pay increase as a poor player? Again, most pro sports contracts provide only the minimum salary. Nothing prevents an employer from paying more than scale. |
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In article c3dhc2g=.edf20fd03bc24ed4295dc1b8b6109d51@1080826 601.nulluser.com, "Harry Krause" wrote:
Eisboch wrote: Harry Krause wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Thought maybe you might need some cheering up .... :) http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/...ush1_Start.htm Eisboch Cripes...he can't even hold a hammer properly. What a stunatz! Oh, I don't know about that. Seems to me he has been hitting the nail right on the head. Eisboch That explains it. Bush hammered nails into his head during his alcohol and cocaine years...thanks. I was wondering how even a legacy grad of Yale could appear so damned stupid. Cocaine, alcohol? There is much more evidence of cocaine abuse involving former President Bill Clinton than GWB. How come you never mentioned Billy's abuse? Care to post any real evidence of GWB's so-called cocaine abuse? http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder090399.asp http://www.larryelder.com/mediabias/clintoncoke.htm And everybody knows (especially his old roommate at college -- Tommy Lee Jones that Al Gore "smoked marijuana like a chimney". But yet you were strangely silent on this too. And you are one of the ones in here advocating the legalization of certain drugs are you not? How much dope did you do in your younger days Krause? Oh what a one-sided, sad and pathetic old man you are! -- "I've got to get some coke for my brother. He's got a nose like a Hoover vacuum cleaner" -- Roger Clinton while in jail. |
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Come on Asskisser,,,,
Ken Star??? Wasn't that over the impeachment trials where the Democratic leader lied to the American people? Didn't the Democratic leader lie under oath? Didn't the Democratic leader abuse his power, play mommy and daddy with some intern student who was uglier than sin, and then lied about it all ? And some other women? Come on there Asskisser, your not too smart are you? What about your other puppet master there Asskisser,, Kennedy? I mean that man has to consume about a bottle of hard alcohol just to maintain that vibrant glow of his. Not to mention his spins, like agreeing with the war and supporting GWB,,, then a reversal and comparing GWB's war to his own brother's war in Vietnam, back when your puppet master drunk drove a prostitute into a river when drinking and driving. Kennedys,,,, LOL,,, Nice bunch of civil servants. Look at JFK JR. ,, that dope couldn't even graduate from college, not too smart,,, The other kid,, he rapes a woman at some mansion part,,, gets away with it. Kennedy was screwing Marilyn Monroe,,, What is with you Democrats and women, booze, drugs and beating the wrap? How do civil servants get such large mansions anyway? And extra unfair treatment in courts? I mean you get to kill, rape, slap, abuse women and the country just turns a blind eye. Now Kerry,,, who owns Heinz ketchup, that takes advantage of cheap, non union, non American, very low income earning labor over seas, how do you people get away with this???? OOOOps,,, I knew the answer before asking the question,,, I forgot,,, your banking on the ignorance of the voters...... Not too smart are you (and your buddies) there Asskisser "basskisser" wrote in message om... (Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message news:ynMcc.18091 Oh, I don't know about that. Seems to me he has been hitting the nail right on the head. Eisboch That explains it. Bush hammered nails into his head during his alcohol and cocaine years...thanks. I was wondering how even a legacy grad of Yale could appear so damned stupid. Cocaine, alcohol? There is much more evidence of cocaine abuse involving former President Bill Clinton than GWB. How come you never mentioned Billy's abuse? Probably because Bill Clinton isn't our president. When he WAS president, the right tried everything they could to try and find dirt. Remember Ken Starr? Care to post any real evidence of GWB's so-called cocaine abuse? There is a lot of incriminating evidence out there. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder090399.asp http://www.larryelder.com/mediabias/clintoncoke.htm And everybody knows (especially his old roommate at college -- Tommy Lee Jones that Al Gore "smoked marijuana like a chimney". But yet you were strangely silent on this too. What would THAT have to do with our president's past drug and alcohol problems? And you are one of the ones in here advocating the legalization of certain drugs are you not? How much dope did you do in your younger days Krause? Oh what a one-sided, sad and pathetic old man you are! I think YOU are the one-sided old man. You are the one who keeps posting about other's drug use with no evidence, only wild assumptions. |
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" Tuuk" wrote in message . ..
Come on Asskisser,,,, Ken Star??? Wasn't that over the impeachment trials where the Democratic leader lied to the American people? No, that would be Ken Starr. And you have the audacity to call me stupid! And that was nothing short of the republicans forming a lynch mob. Didn't the Democratic leader lie under oath? Didn't the Democratic leader abuse his power, play mommy and daddy with some intern student who was uglier than sin, and then lied about it all ? And some other women? Come on there Asskisser, your not too smart are you? Come on there Tunk, not too smart are you? There were many, many issues involved in the Ken Starr trials. MOST were found to be nothing short of Republican smear tactics. What about your other puppet master there Asskisser Kennedy? John Kennedy was a hell of a good man! I mean that man has to consume about a bottle of hard alcohol just to maintain that vibrant glow of his. Not to mention his spins, like agreeing with the war and supporting GWB,,, then a reversal and comparing GWB's war to his own brother's war in Vietnam, back when your puppet master drunk drove a prostitute into a river when drinking and driving. What prostitute???? Kennedys,,,, LOL,,, Nice bunch of civil servants. Look at JFK JR. ,, that dope couldn't even graduate from college, not too smart,,, The other kid,, he rapes a woman at some mansion part,,, gets away with it. Kennedy was screwing Marilyn Monroe,,, What is with you Democrats and women, booze, drugs and beating the wrap? How do civil servants get such large mansions anyway? And extra unfair treatment in courts? I mean you get to kill, rape, slap, abuse women and the country just turns a blind eye. Now Kerry,,, who owns Heinz ketchup, that takes advantage of cheap, non union, non American, very low income earning labor over seas, how do you people get away with this???? OOOOps,,, I knew the answer before asking the question,,, I forgot,,, your banking on the ignorance of the voters...... Not too smart are you (and your buddies) there Asskisser Much smarter than you, fool. The above long winded diatribe doesn't even begin to answer my questions. |
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