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Snafu July 27th 03 10:15 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan



Steve July 27th 03 11:29 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
You pay the highway tax on gasoline but not on diesel when you purchase it
at the marina..

The (off road) diesel is available to the marina from the distributor
because the refineries provide it with a purple die color so the highway
inspectors can tell if your using it on the road..

Also the purple diesel is high sulfer while that sold for use on the highway
is low sulfer. (so I'm told).

No such thing for gasoline.

I have heard that you can apply for a refund of the highway tax but have
never had that opportunity because my boats have always been diesel.

The marinas jack the price up for gasoline because of their low volume.


--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Jim Woodard July 28th 03 12:14 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
There is a gas station a block from the marina here that is 30 cents
a gallon less than at the marina...is it worth pulling the boat out
of the water and trailering it for that much?

Snafu wrote:

I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan


Snafu July 28th 03 12:29 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 

"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
There is a gas station a block from the marina here that is 30 cents
a gallon less than at the marina...is it worth pulling the boat out
of the water and trailering it for that much?


Heck no! I wasn't really complaining (even though it might sound like it),
I was just curious if the higher cost is typical. Sounds like it is.

Thanks
Dan



Wayne.B July 28th 03 12:49 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:29:11 -0700, "Steve" wrote:
I have heard that you can apply for a refund of the highway tax but have
never had that opportunity because my boats have always been diesel.

================================================== ===

The ability to get road tax refunds varies from state to state.
Connecticut cheerfully refunds at the end of the year if you have
receipts and fill out a form, NY does not unless you can prove you are
engaged in commercial fishing. (sport fisherman who sell an
occasional tuna need not apply). Prices at the dock for 89 octane
range from $1.90 to $2.15 in both states. Gas station prices are 30
to 40 cents less.


Harry Krause July 28th 03 01:15 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Snafu wrote:
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan



I paid about $1.70 a gallon for 110 gallons today in Deale, MD. That
included a cash discount.

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Steve Lomax July 28th 03 02:01 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Here in the UK we are lucky to find fuel at less than $7 per gallon for
unleaded, and we can't calim any tax back.(marine and heating deisel is
about half the price)
fuel is heavily taxed in the interests of 'green issues' in an attempt to
reduce greenhouse gasses. A typical day's boating in a 4.3l mercruiser is
about $100 in. I'm afraid you will get little sympathy from this side of the
pond for complaints on gas prices. Please don't take this the wrong way, I
would *love* to be able to get petrol at 23 pence a litre. -Hey, I'd even
bath in the stuff! Considerable numbers of people here now have even
resorted to buying large quantities of cooking oil to use as deisel in cars
and vans. Our roads now sometimes smell like a back street fish and chip
shop (you have to experience this to appriciate it!)
..
"Snafu" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last

weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of

the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does

not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price

at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan





Bob La Londe July 28th 03 04:28 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Everywhere I have ever been floating fuel prices are substantially higher
than shore prices.



"Snafu" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last

weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of

the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does

not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price

at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan





Butch Ammon July 28th 03 12:13 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Everywhere I have ever been floating fuel prices are substantially higher
than shore prices.


Same here... Yesterday I filled up my boat at the local Exxon station on the
highway @ $1.44/gal. I avoid paying marina gas prices.

Butch Ammon

Jim Woodard July 28th 03 01:23 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
I was really asking a serious question because I have been thinking
about this very thing....the previous owner has 4 six-gallon gasoline
cans which I think he filled at that gas station and brought them home.
However, he also had 2 jet-skis with his boat, so maybe he used that
gas for his jet skis and not the boat....I'm not sure how I would
safely use a gasoline can to fill the boat without a huge transfer
tube....but 30 cents over a period of a year or two can add up if
you use the boat a lot.

Snafu wrote:

"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
There is a gas station a block from the marina here that is 30 cents
a gallon less than at the marina...is it worth pulling the boat out
of the water and trailering it for that much?


Heck no! I wasn't really complaining (even though it might sound like it),
I was just curious if the higher cost is typical. Sounds like it is.

Thanks
Dan


j July 28th 03 02:38 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
$2.05/gal. in CT


"Snafu" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last

weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of

the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does

not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price

at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan





Gfretwell July 28th 03 04:47 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
.I'm not sure how I would
safely use a gasoline can to fill the boat without a huge transfer
tube...


You buy the "jerry cans" not a regular boat tank. Then use a huge funnel. The
one I have has a 12" bell. Keep the can, funnel and gas filler touching at all
times during the filling process to avoid static. I can fill the boat without
spilling a drop. They also sell wheeled tanks that hold a lot of gas but that
depends on you having a clear path to the boat and a truck to haul the tank.
I did see a cool trailer at one of our JetSki rental operations. It had a 300
gallon tank and a self contained 12v pump with a regular fuel hose/nozzle like
they have at a gas station. The battery was solar charged. I wonder what DOT
would think about that? This one was operating in stealth mode (no hazmat
placards).

Steve July 28th 03 10:02 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
I think refueling a gasoline boat from plastic or metal jerry cans is a
dangerous practice and some marinas may even prohibit it.

Any gasoline transfer is suppose to have an anti static grounding system.
Not to mention safeguards regarding smoking, open flames, etc.

I see people refueling at the marina and public dock all the time without
regard to these basic precautions.

If I see this going on, I try to leave that area.

At least when you fuel at a marina fuel dock or the gas station, up the
road, they have grounded nozzles and the other precautions.

Another good reason to go with diesel fuel..

--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Harry Krause July 29th 03 12:26 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Steve wrote:
I think refueling a gasoline boat from plastic or metal jerry cans is a
dangerous practice and some marinas may even prohibit it.

Any gasoline transfer is suppose to have an anti static grounding system.
Not to mention safeguards regarding smoking, open flames, etc.

I see people refueling at the marina and public dock all the time without
regard to these basic precautions.

If I see this going on, I try to leave that area.

At least when you fuel at a marina fuel dock or the gas station, up the
road, they have grounded nozzles and the other precautions.

Another good reason to go with diesel fuel..

--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



There are some boaters who out of ignorance or carelessness carry a
quantity of plastic or metal jerry cans full of gasoline aboard, and
refill their main tank from those cans while underway. If they knew what
they were playing with, they might opt to install a larger main fuel
tank on their boat, or find a boat with a larger fuel tank.

Refilling a diesel tank from a jerry can is not the same kind of hazard
as playing around with gasoline.








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Gfretwell July 29th 03 01:27 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
I see people refueling at the marina and public dock all the time without
regard to these basic precautions


Some of us don't have our boats within 10 miles of a marina. We need another
way to get fuel to the boat. Loading it up on the trailer and taking it up to
the shop-n-rob isn't an option either.
Certainly fueling from cans in a marina is frowned upon but the lack of body
count from the millions of boaters who fill from plastic cans in their back
yard seems to make this look more like a marketing or insurance decision.

jasper July 29th 03 05:55 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
i paid $1.81 today at bluff harbor in burlington, ia, and it is $1.54 at the
pump in town...

jason


"Snafu" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last

weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of

the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does

not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price

at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan





Calif Bill July 29th 03 06:16 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
I see people refueling at the marina and public dock all the time without
regard to these basic precautions


Some of us don't have our boats within 10 miles of a marina. We need

another
way to get fuel to the boat. Loading it up on the trailer and taking it up

to
the shop-n-rob isn't an option either.
Certainly fueling from cans in a marina is frowned upon but the lack of

body
count from the millions of boaters who fill from plastic cans in their

back
yard seems to make this look more like a marketing or insurance decision.


Oh, must be very dangerous. Thousands of fires everyweekend from filling a
lawnmower from the plastic or metal gerry can.
Bill
;)



Markku Stenborg ® July 29th 03 01:49 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:15:27 GMT, "Snafu"
wrote:

I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock. The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas price at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?


I pay about 1.2x €, if my memory serves me correct. That is about 1.4 USD.

And the price is per _liter_, not gallon. That is about 5.2 $/gal to you
SI-challenged. Asohre, about 1.05-1.10 $.

--
Markku Stenborg

N60°08.554' E24°44.473'

Steve July 29th 03 08:03 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
The main hazard would be static electricity due to a the lack of a metal to
metal bonding.

There was a gas station fire in the Seattle area last month that was
attributed to this. Static discharge from the person to the vehicle after
or before the nozzle made contact.

All gasoline boats are required to have a bond wire between the fill
connection to the tank body and the boat bonding system. This is usually
accomplished via the bonding wire in (approved) fuel fill hoses.

That said, what is the use of having all these built in precautions if the
boater uses a can without a bonding system..

Fuel bonding may or may not be manditory in your area, but it's as good an
idea as "No Smoking or Open Flames".

Maybe the reason lawn mowers don't blow up is because the fellows filling
them are standing on the ground as it the lawn mower and completes the
gound circuit.


--
My opinion . FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Mke Graham July 30th 03 11:29 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Here on Lake Hopatcong in Northern NJ I just paid $1.99 a gallon. This is
about $0.50 higher than at a land station, but it is not worth it to me to
lug gas to the boat in cans. Besides, it makes some kind of sense that fun
gas costs more that work gas... If I had the choice of going to work on free
gas vs. going boating at $1.99 a gallon I'll take boating every time, or at
least until the money runs out.

"FishFan" wrote in message
om...
"Snafu" wrote in message

. earthlink.net...
I usually fill my trailer boat at the same place I fill the truck, and

the
cost here in Vancouver, WA is about $1.50 - $1.60 per gallon. Last

weekend,
I used a marina slip at Ilwaco, WA where there is just one fuel dock.

The
price: $2.049 per gallon. Ashore, the price of gas in the Ilwaco / Long
Beach, WA area is about $1.80, but that includes road tax (WA has one of

the
highest road taxes in the US) which the marina fuel dock presumably does

not
include.

My brother-in-law was recently at Lake Shasta, CA. He says the gas

price at
marinas there is about $3.00 per gallon!

How much are you paying at the dock? How does it compare to the price
ashore?

Just curious
Dan


Here in cental NJ I've seen $1.79 & $1.89 at marinas. On the road 89
octane (which is supposedly what your getting at most local marinas)
is about $1.45- $1.50.

My marina contract forbids refuleing from cans, but I see plenty of
people doing it, and I haven't seen a fire yet. At 40 - 50 cents a
gallon, if you're putting in 20 or 40 gallons it adds up. I usually
only do it if I know I'm leaving early on a long trip and can't get to
the gas dock during working hours.

FishFan




Snafu August 1st 03 05:18 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Kiitos, Markku.

50% Suomalainen Dan

I pay about 1.2x ?, if my memory serves me correct. That is about 1.4 USD.

And the price is per _liter_, not gallon. That is about 5.2 $/gal to you
SI-challenged. Asohre, about 1.05-1.10 $.

--
Markku Stenborg

N60°08.554' E24°44.473'




RGrew176 August 2nd 03 10:34 PM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
$1.88 9/10 at my marina, Harbor Marine in Bolles Harbor just south of Monroe,
Mi. Price has been the same all season so far. Prices are currently about $1.47
9/10 on the road but they vary daily it seems.

It used to be only death and taxes were inevitable. Now, of course,
there's shipping and handling, too.



August 3rd 03 03:52 AM

Marina gas prices - how much are you paying this summer?
 
Tablerock Lake in Missouri - prices running $2.08 to $2.19 for premium
unleaded.


"RGrew176" wrote in message
...
$1.88 9/10 at my marina, Harbor Marine in Bolles Harbor just south of

Monroe,
Mi. Price has been the same all season so far. Prices are currently about

$1.47
9/10 on the road but they vary daily it seems.

It used to be only death and taxes were inevitable. Now, of course,
there's shipping and handling, too.






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