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On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:09:57 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 06:59:48 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 01:06:47 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2005 20:01:55 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2005 15:51:02 -0700, "William Andersen" wrote: So, is your car so special that a thief would take the time to get a key made for it? I'm sure thieves know how to start a car without the bother of a key. Mine is! http://members.cox.net/jherring/pony.html What's next? Pictures of your driveway? What a self absorbed schmuck! rusty redcloud No, but my neighbor's building a nice deck with a jacuzzi! How about if I take pictures of his progress and tell you it's *my* new deck? Well, if that's the best you can do... rusty redcloud It's the best I could do for now. I'll keep my eyes open for a nice long driveway to snap some pictures of, maybe even get one with some equipment on it. How would that be? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
A good car thief will have the door open, the car started, and inside
the chop shop with all the doors fenders cut off before somebody can drive to the dealership and get a key made based on a VIN. Aside: Most ingenious batch of car thieves in the last two decades, at least in this area, had to be the group supposedly connected with the "Russian Mafia." They specialized in stealing Hondas. They would steal a car, strip the body and interior parts, and then roll the chassis back out onto a local roadway and abandon it. The insurance companies would pay off the owners of the cars, and then put the chassis up for sale at the insurance salvage auction. The Russian gang would outbid everybody for the chassis, obtain a legal title and bill of sale, and then take the chassis back to the chop shop and reinstall all the *original*, matcing VIN parts. They did a great number of cars before getting caught. Ironically, thier downfall (beyond doing something dastardly in the first place) was using the original, matching parts. This probably improved the ultimate resale value of the reassembled car, (as in, "I don't know what they mean when calling this a rebuilt title- have your body man look at it if you want, all the parts are original") When the cops began to get wise and tracked down a few of the rebuilt cars originally sold through the insurance auction, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the only person who would have all the original parts for one of these stripped chassis would be the guy who did the stripping in the first place. |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:01:57 GMT, Red CloudŽ
wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:35:03 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 18:45:37 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:11:23 -0400, John H wrote: What's next? Pictures of your driveway? What a self absorbed schmuck! rusty redcloud No, but my neighbor's building a nice deck with a jacuzzi! How about if I take pictures of his progress and tell you it's *my* new deck? Well, if that's the best you can do... rusty redcloud It's the best I could do for now. I'll keep my eyes open for a nice long driveway to snap some pictures of, maybe even get one with some equipment on it. How would that be? Okay. I guess if that's all you've got. By the way - all decisions are NOT the result of binary thinking. Think about it... rusty redcloud Oh yes they are! Oh no they are not. Really! Ok - why not? Later, Tom |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:46:19 -0400, Thomas Rangier nospam@nospam
wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:07:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:01:57 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:35:03 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 18:45:37 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:11:23 -0400, John H wrote: What's next? Pictures of your driveway? What a self absorbed schmuck! rusty redcloud No, but my neighbor's building a nice deck with a jacuzzi! How about if I take pictures of his progress and tell you it's *my* new deck? Well, if that's the best you can do... rusty redcloud It's the best I could do for now. I'll keep my eyes open for a nice long driveway to snap some pictures of, maybe even get one with some equipment on it. How would that be? Okay. I guess if that's all you've got. By the way - all decisions are NOT the result of binary thinking. Think about it... rusty redcloud Oh yes they are! Oh no they are not. Really! Ok - why not? Later, Tom Because you conciously decide what to type which is then converted into binary? As a result it was a binary thought, answer, decision, or question? OK, I am puzzled too. Just guessing! John's sig is rather simplistic (not that John is) because while being exactly true, it belies the process that goes behind making a decision. Later, Tom |
On Mon, 16 May 2005 00:36:41 GMT, Red CloudŽ
wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2005 00:05:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:57:40 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:07:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Ok - why not? Later, Tom RATIONAL decisions are the result of binary thinking... which may have been preceeded by a whole lot of non-binary and binary thinking that established the final two choices. Irrational decisions do not require binary thinking, Let's do some defining he Irrational: (1) Not endowed with reason. (2) Affected by loss of usual or normal mental clarity; incoherent, as from shock. (3) Marked by a lack of accord with reason or sound judgment: an irrational dislike. Decision: (1) The passing of judgment on an issue under consideration. (2) The act of reaching a conclusion or making up one's mind. (3) A conclusion or judgment reached or pronounced; a verdict. (4) Firmness of character or action; determination. Now if we accept these definitions as being true, then making a irrational decision has to be the result of a yes/no decision. Just because a decision is irrational, does not mean that it requires more than go/no go. Emotional decisions do not require binary thinking. Ok, let's do this again: Emotional: (1) Of or relating to emotion: an emotional illness (2) Readily affected with or stirred by emotion. (3) Arousing or intended to arouse the emotions. (4) Marked by or exhibiting emotion. There is nothing in that definition that disallows binary decision making. Just because emotion is involved in making a decision does not mean that you ultimately say "yes I will" or "No I won't". Instinctive decisions do not require binary thinking. There is no such thing as an instinctive decision. Artistic decisions do not require binary thinking See the end. Sometimes a decision is made FOR you. But you have the decision to either do it or not. When I am improvising musically, am I deciding between two notes to play, or among hundreds? I suppose if you are very anal and not very imaginative you could say that I'm chosing between the note I played, and the others that I didn't, but that's not really binary logic. Then there's the nuance of how I played the note... There are many instances where something other than binary thinking results in a decision. Not possible. Evaluation, process and practice are not replacements for decisions. I'm familiar enough with the musical process to know that when first running through a piece, it's pretty much a mechanical process to get familiar with it. Once you know what you want to do, you begin to add something here, an expression there - all of which are either a "yep, that will sound good" "nope, that's gonna suck". When you come right down to it, critical thinking is essential to the yes/no decision process. That isn't necessarily binary in scope being a winnowing of data, but the end result is always a result of go/no go or, essentially, binary thinking. The concept I presented parted your hair as it flew over. Try again! Later, Tom |
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 00:36:41 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005 00:05:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:57:40 GMT, Red CloudŽ wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:07:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Ok - why not? Later, Tom RATIONAL decisions are the result of binary thinking... which may have been preceeded by a whole lot of non-binary and binary thinking that established the final two choices. Irrational decisions do not require binary thinking, Let's do some defining he Irrational: (1) Not endowed with reason. (2) Affected by loss of usual or normal mental clarity; incoherent, as from shock. (3) Marked by a lack of accord with reason or sound judgment: an irrational dislike. Decision: (1) The passing of judgment on an issue under consideration. (2) The act of reaching a conclusion or making up one's mind. (3) A conclusion or judgment reached or pronounced; a verdict. (4) Firmness of character or action; determination. Now if we accept these definitions as being true, then making a irrational decision has to be the result of a yes/no decision. Just because a decision is irrational, does not mean that it requires more than go/no go. Emotional decisions do not require binary thinking. Ok, let's do this again: Emotional: (1) Of or relating to emotion: an emotional illness (2) Readily affected with or stirred by emotion. (3) Arousing or intended to arouse the emotions. (4) Marked by or exhibiting emotion. There is nothing in that definition that disallows binary decision making. Just because emotion is involved in making a decision does not mean that you ultimately say "yes I will" or "No I won't". Instinctive decisions do not require binary thinking. There is no such thing as an instinctive decision. Artistic decisions do not require binary thinking See the end. Sometimes a decision is made FOR you. But you have the decision to either do it or not. When I am improvising musically, am I deciding between two notes to play, or among hundreds? I suppose if you are very anal and not very imaginative you could say that I'm chosing between the note I played, and the others that I didn't, but that's not really binary logic. Then there's the nuance of how I played the note... There are many instances where something other than binary thinking results in a decision. Not possible. Evaluation, process and practice are not replacements for decisions. I'm familiar enough with the musical process to know that when first running through a piece, it's pretty much a mechanical process to get familiar with it. Once you know what you want to do, you begin to add something here, an expression there - all of which are either a "yep, that will sound good" "nope, that's gonna suck". When you come right down to it, critical thinking is essential to the yes/no decision process. That isn't necessarily binary in scope being a winnowing of data, but the end result is always a result of go/no go or, essentially, binary thinking. Later, Tom The concept I presented parted your hair as it flew over. Try again! rusty redcloud You just got trounced. You can accept that or not. The decision is yours, and it will be the result of binary thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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