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Billgran March 24th 04 11:51 AM

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Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

March 22, 2004

ML - 390

Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

Dear Harley-Davidson Dealer:

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. has learned that certain 2001-
2003 Model Year FL Touring and Police model motorcycles, including
FLHPI, FLHTPI, FLHPEI, FLHTCI, FLHTCUI and FLTRSEI-2 (2001 only),
have a condition whereby the 40 Amp. main circuit breaker could open
due to reasons other than for which it was designed, thereby causing
an unexpected interruption of all electrical power to the
motorcycle. This condition could cause a "quit while riding"
situation, which could lead to a crash, thereby causing death or
injury to the rider.

We have voluntarily declared this a defect related to motor vehicle
safety (Campaign 0113) to allow us to formally recall all affected
motorcycles. The remedy of this issue is to replace the circuit
breaker on the above noted vehicles.

In the interest of the safety of our mutual customers and as
required by law, you may sell but NOT DELIVER any affected
motorcycles to your customers. A service bulletin outlining the
repair and credit procedure, along with a list of affected VIN's
will follow within two weeks.

In accordance with Federal regulations administrated by NHTSA,
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. will provide notice to all
owners of record of affected products with direction to bring the
vehicle in for the recall service.

Sincerely,

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc.



John H March 24th 04 01:25 PM

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:51:38 GMT, "Billgran"
wrote:

Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

March 22, 2004

ML - 390

Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

Dear Harley-Davidson Dealer:

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. has learned that certain 2001-
2003 Model Year FL Touring and Police model motorcycles, including
FLHPI, FLHTPI, FLHPEI, FLHTCI, FLHTCUI and FLTRSEI-2 (2001 only),
have a condition whereby the 40 Amp. main circuit breaker could open
due to reasons other than for which it was designed, thereby causing
an unexpected interruption of all electrical power to the
motorcycle. This condition could cause a "quit while riding"
situation, which could lead to a crash, thereby causing death or
injury to the rider.

We have voluntarily declared this a defect related to motor vehicle
safety (Campaign 0113) to allow us to formally recall all affected
motorcycles. The remedy of this issue is to replace the circuit
breaker on the above noted vehicles.

In the interest of the safety of our mutual customers and as
required by law, you may sell but NOT DELIVER any affected
motorcycles to your customers. A service bulletin outlining the
repair and credit procedure, along with a list of affected VIN's
will follow within two weeks.

In accordance with Federal regulations administrated by NHTSA,
Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. will provide notice to all
owners of record of affected products with direction to bring the
vehicle in for the recall service.

Sincerely,

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc.


Should have bought a Moto Guzzi.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

DSK March 24th 04 01:29 PM

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"Billgran" wrote:
Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

Dear Harley-Davidson Dealer:

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. has learned that certain 2001-
2003 Model Year FL Touring and Police model motorcycles, including


John H wrote:
Should have bought a Moto Guzzi.


I'm waiting to see the Republicans use the Harley-Davidson recall to
PROVE that Kerry is once again a LYING TRAITOR.

DSK


Billgran March 24th 04 01:35 PM

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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:51:38 GMT, "Billgran"
wrote:

Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113



The morning coffee had not kicked in yet when I hit the wrong key to send.
Sorry about that.




John H March 24th 04 04:25 PM

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:29:56 -0500, DSK wrote:

"Billgran" wrote:
Subject: SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN 0113

Dear Harley-Davidson Dealer:

Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. has learned that certain 2001-
2003 Model Year FL Touring and Police model motorcycles, including


John H wrote:
Should have bought a Moto Guzzi.


I'm waiting to see the Republicans use the Harley-Davidson recall to
PROVE that Kerry is once again a LYING TRAITOR.

DSK


stfu. go to a political thread.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

DSK March 24th 04 07:31 PM

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John H wrote:
stfu.


What an intelligent, well-reasoned post.

DSK


Butch Ammon March 24th 04 08:49 PM

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John H wrote:
stfu.


What an intelligent, well-reasoned post.

DSK


Hey DSK, maybe you should pay heed to the below quote:

"Wise men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool invites ruin."
Proverbs 15:2

Butch Ammon

DSK March 24th 04 08:58 PM

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Butch Ammon wrote:
Hey DSK, maybe you should pay heed to the below quote:

"Wise men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool invites ruin."
Proverbs 15:2


Does the Bible ever advise telling people who disagree with you to shut
the f*** up?

Are you proud of this type of post, so you defend it?

BTW when posting about boating topics, I use my real name. If you don't
know it, maybe you aren't reading the right threads.

DSK


John H March 24th 04 09:33 PM

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:31:52 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
stfu.


What an intelligent, well-reasoned post.

DSK


You get what you deserve.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

DSK March 25th 04 12:34 AM

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John H wrote:
You get what you deserve.


Because I am logical and consistent, and point out your errors, I
deserve to be told 'shut the f*** up"? That's nice.

If it bothers you to have your own ill manners pointed out to you, then
you have two choices.... 1- go somewhere else to play or 2- clean up
your act.

DSK


John H March 25th 04 12:44 AM

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:34:32 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
You get what you deserve.


Because I am logical and consistent, and point out your errors, I
deserve to be told 'shut the f*** up"? That's nice.

If it bothers you to have your own ill manners pointed out to you, then
you have two choices.... 1- go somewhere else to play or 2- clean up
your act.

DSK


This is pointing out errors? This is logical and consistent?

"I'm waiting to see the Republicans use the Harley-Davidson recall to
PROVE that Kerry is once again a LYING TRAITOR."

I'm glad you have such a high opinion of yourself. You and b'asskisser
have much in common.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

DSK March 25th 04 01:56 AM

Touring Bike recall
 
John H wrote:
This is pointing out errors? This is logical and consistent?

"I'm waiting to see the Republicans use the Harley-Davidson recall to
PROVE that Kerry is once again a LYING TRAITOR."


Actually, that was a joke. Must have hit a nerve though.

For the past few days you've had the same response to all my posts: "STFU"

I guess that means you have no defense of your claims & opinions, and
don't even feel like a joke.


I'm glad you have such a high opinion of yourself. You and b'asskisser
have much in common.


Does that mean the next step for you and the Krause-obsession needs-help
group will be to accuse me of smoking dope?

DSK


Harry Krause March 25th 04 01:24 PM

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Butch Ammon wrote:

John H wrote:

stfu.


What an intelligent, well-reasoned post.

DSK



Hey DSK, maybe you should pay heed to the below quote:

"Wise men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool invites ruin."
Proverbs 15:2

Butch Ammon



You ought to read that one yourself 20 or 30 times.

Don White March 25th 04 02:39 PM

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Harry Krause wrote in message
...

Once our buddy Butch fell under the spell of the gun nuts, he has totally
turned to the dark side.
As mentioned before, when a few bad apples are left in the barrell, soon the
whole barrel goes bad.



Butch Ammon March 25th 04 04:38 PM

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Once our buddy Butch fell under the spell of the gun nuts, he has totally
turned to the dark side.
As mentioned before, when a few bad apples are left in the barrell, soon the
whole barrel goes bad.


Excuse me????

I have been shooting firearms since I was about 14. My dad had an old
"break-your-shoulder" bolt action 12GA shotgun, and also a beautiful .308 deer
rifle. I had a nice Marlin .22 rifle as a kid.

I qualified as marksman on the Coast Guard's M16's in bootcamp, but failed on
the old Gov't 1911-A1 .45ACP because they had my company out on the outdoor
pistol range in the cold rain!! Nobody qualified that I knew of, which was
stupid, but what can you do?

Anyway, what do you mean about "dark side"? I don't understand.... Am I some
sort of twisted, evil minded, crazed whacko, because I own a shotgun and an old
..22? Ooooo, I also own a PSE compound bow with a few razorblade broadhead
arrows. I must be evil huh?!?

The way the law reads in Virginia, if I want to go out and buy a gun, I can do
that. No waiting periods or anything. The 2nd amendment also says I can own a
gun, so I am just showing my support for gun owners and the NRA.

Butch Ammon

Don White March 25th 04 04:52 PM

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Butch Ammon wrote in message
...
snip...
The way the law reads in Virginia, if I want to go out and buy a gun, I

can do
that. No waiting periods or anything. The 2nd amendment also says I can

own a
gun, so I am just showing my support for gun owners and the NRA.

Butch Ammon


Sounds like that Virginia law is way out of date. It puts you in the bush
leagues with Florida and Texas and
I'm sure...some others.
Nothing wrong with owning a shotgun or two......but wouldn't you sleep
better knowing your daughters might be a bit safer
if the state did a through check on each firearm applicant? What's wrong
with waiting a few weeks...ore even a month?
Who's in that much of a hurry to go shootin'.




Don White March 25th 04 04:57 PM

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Oh yeah.... the darkside business.
Just a reference to your apparant lining up with and support of some of the
more questionable characters who frequent the group. Your choice of
course...



Butch Ammon March 25th 04 05:01 PM

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The way the law reads in Virginia, if I want to go out and buy a gun, I
can do
that. No waiting periods or anything. The 2nd amendment also says I can

own a
gun, so I am just showing my support for gun owners and the NRA.

Butch Ammon


Sounds like that Virginia law is way out of date. It puts you in the bush
leagues with Florida and Texas and
I'm sure...some others.
Nothing wrong with owning a shotgun or two......but wouldn't you sleep
better knowing your daughters might be a bit safer
if the state did a through check on each firearm applicant? What's wrong
with waiting a few weeks...ore even a month?
Who's in that much of a hurry to go shootin'.


The background check system works... If someone wants to buy a gun, they HAVE
TO go through the background check before they can even think of doing
anything. If they come up negative in the system..... **BUSTED** !!!

My daughters know how to use my firearms and are a heck of a shot with my
..22!!! I am not worried.

Butch Ammon

Henry Blackmoore March 25th 04 05:15 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:


Harry Krause wrote in message
...

Once our buddy Butch fell under the spell of the gun nuts, he has totally
turned to the dark side.
As mentioned before, when a few bad apples are left in the barrell, soon the
whole barrel goes bad.


double-barrels or just one?


Henry Blackmoore March 25th 04 05:18 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Butch Ammon wrote in message
...
snip...
The way the law reads in Virginia, if I want to go out and buy a gun, I

can do
that. No waiting periods or anything. The 2nd amendment also says I can

own a
gun, so I am just showing my support for gun owners and the NRA.

Butch Ammon


Sounds like that Virginia law is way out of date. It puts you in the bush
leagues with Florida and Texas and
I'm sure...some others.
Nothing wrong with owning a shotgun or two......but wouldn't you sleep
better knowing your daughters might be a bit safer
if the state did a through check on each firearm applicant? What's wrong
with waiting a few weeks...ore even a month?
Who's in that much of a hurry to go shootin'.


What if before you posted and ran your mouth off again about things that you
don't know much about, you had to fill out a form and then wait for approval
for a "few weeks" or even "a month"? Wouldn't that be a good law too?

Why not?



Henry Blackmoore March 25th 04 05:19 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , "Don White" wrote:

Oh yeah.... the darkside business.
Just a reference to your apparant lining up with and support of some of the
more questionable characters who frequent the group. Your choice of
course...


what about you and Harry sickling each other's hammer all the time?




John H March 25th 04 05:52 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:56:08 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
This is pointing out errors? This is logical and consistent?

"I'm waiting to see the Republicans use the Harley-Davidson recall to
PROVE that Kerry is once again a LYING TRAITOR."


Actually, that was a joke. Must have hit a nerve though.

For the past few days you've had the same response to all my posts: "STFU"

I guess that means you have no defense of your claims & opinions, and
don't even feel like a joke.


I'm glad you have such a high opinion of yourself. You and b'asskisser
have much in common.


Does that mean the next step for you and the Krause-obsession needs-help
group will be to accuse me of smoking dope?

DSK


Actually my STFU was a joke. Must have hit a nerve though. For the
past few days you've been sounding more and more like b'asskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause March 25th 04 05:56 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message
...

Once our buddy Butch fell under the spell of the gun nuts, he has totally
turned to the dark side.
As mentioned before, when a few bad apples are left in the barrell, soon the
whole barrel goes bad.


That may be it.,,Butch was fairly rational before he took those
Wayne LaPierre mad-dog pills.

DSK March 25th 04 05:59 PM

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John H wrote:
Actually my STFU was a joke.


Oh, OK. Isn't it odd how you've used the same 'joke' with a bunch of
posts that show up your stated opinions?

DSK


Don White March 25th 04 07:36 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
k.net...
In article , "Don White"

wrote:

Oh yeah.... the darkside business.
Just a reference to your apparant lining up with and support of some of

the
more questionable characters who frequent the group. Your choice of
course...


what about you and Harry sickling each other's hammer all the time?


There you go Butch..........our Texas Terror friend just proved my point.
That's a motley crew to ship out with.



Butch Ammon March 25th 04 08:19 PM

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what about you and Harry sickling each other's hammer all the time?


There you go Butch..........our Texas Terror friend just proved my point.
That's a motley crew to ship out with.


Don, I have no idea who (Henry something-or-other) is anyway, so
the point is irrelevant.

Butch Ammon

Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 05:23 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
nk.net...
In article , "Don White"

wrote:

Oh yeah.... the darkside business.
Just a reference to your apparant lining up with and support of some of

the
more questionable characters who frequent the group. Your choice of
course...


what about you and Harry sickling each other's hammer all the time?


There you go Butch..........our Texas Terror friend just proved my point.
That's a motley crew to ship out with.


Down around these parts you and your ilk are the "terror" Don. Socialist
weenies always wanting the government to take care of them because they
don't have enough gumption to do themselves. Folks who salivate
at hearing the words "UN" being spoken and who actually brag about
that twisted and warped organization voting them as the best place to live.
Folks who are proud that their government doesn't trust them with firearms
and who have allowed themselves to be systematically disarmed.

Those are all the makings of a real grade 'A' nightmare.


Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 05:26 PM

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In article , 123 (Butch Ammon) wrote:

what about you and Harry sickling each other's hammer all the time?


There you go Butch..........our Texas Terror friend just proved my point.
That's a motley crew to ship out with.


Don, I have no idea who
(Henry something-or-other) is anyway, so
the point is irrelevant.

Butch Ammon


It's Blackmoore Bitch, I mean Butch.

We have talked before. Just because your memory is short doesn't call for
just dismissing me as "Henry something-or-other".

Maybe it's you that is irrelevant?



Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 05:33 PM

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In article , Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message
...

Once our buddy Butch fell under the spell of the gun nuts, he has totally
turned to the dark side.
As mentioned before, when a few bad apples are left in the barrell, soon the
whole barrel goes bad.


That may be it.,,Butch was fairly rational before he took those
Wayne LaPierre mad-dog pills.


Must have been a lot of folks given those "mad-dog" pills because there
are only a handful of states left that didn't pass concealed-carry laws
where law-abiding citizens can carry concealed firearms.

What states are left that didn't pass CC laws? Ohio, Wisconsin, Kansas,
Illinois, Nebraska and ??? It's hard to keep up with all the progress of the
"gun nuts" and the battles won in state legislatures all around the country.

Maybe you should take some of those pills too Harry before someone pops
a cap into your left-wing ass?

LOL



Don White March 26th 04 06:21 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
nk.net...

It's Blackmoore Bitch, I mean Butch.

We have talked before. Just because your memory is short doesn't call

for
just dismissing me as "Henry something-or-other".

Maybe it's you that is irrelevant?


Do ya think he's just trying to forget! Give the guy a break...he still has
some standards.



Don White March 26th 04 06:26 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:KGZ8c.1754 Down
around these parts you and your ilk are the "terror" Don. Socialist
weenies always wanting the government to take care of them because they
don't have enough gumption to do themselves. Folks who salivate
at hearing the words "UN" being spoken and who actually brag about
that twisted and warped organization voting them as the best place to

live.
Folks who are proud that their government doesn't trust them with firearms
and who have allowed themselves to be systematically disarmed.




Hold on a bit.......
Doesn't the US host the United Nations on it's soil?........who is the
biggest benefactor?
Somebody on your side of the border must think it's worthwhile.....otherwise
why are you wasting so many yankee dollahs on it?



Don White March 26th 04 06:29 PM

Touring Bike recall
 

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4QZ8c.1769 Must have
been a lot of folks given those "mad-dog" pills because there
are only a handful of states left that didn't pass concealed-carry laws
where law-abiding citizens can carry concealed firearms.

What states are left that didn't pass CC laws? Ohio, Wisconsin, Kansas,
Illinois, Nebraska and ??? It's hard to keep up with all the progress of

the
"gun nuts" and the battles won in state legislatures all around the

country.

Is this true?...
Might be time to build a big fence along the border...sounds like America is
slipping over the edge!



Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 06:38 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , "Don White" wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
ink.net...

It's Blackmoore Bitch, I mean Butch.

We have talked before. Just because your memory is short doesn't call

for
just dismissing me as "Henry something-or-other".

Maybe it's you that is irrelevant?


Do ya think he's just trying to forget! Give the guy a break...he still has
some standards.


He set himself up on that one.






Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 06:42 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , "Don White" wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:KGZ8c.1754 Down
around these parts you and your ilk are the "terror" Don. Socialist
weenies always wanting the government to take care of them because they
don't have enough gumption to do themselves. Folks who salivate
at hearing the words "UN" being spoken and who actually brag about
that twisted and warped organization voting them as the best place to

live.
Folks who are proud that their government doesn't trust them with firearms
and who have allowed themselves to be systematically disarmed.




Hold on a bit.......
Doesn't the US host the United Nations on it's soil?........who is the
biggest benefactor?
Somebody on your side of the border must think it's worthwhile.....otherwise
why are you wasting so many yankee dollahs on it?


So let's get this straight, you think that the United Nations is a beneficial,
largely honest and progressive institution who's ideals should be highly
regarded and valued eh?

Tell us what you really think.




Butch Ammon March 26th 04 06:46 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
It's Blackmoore Bitch, I mean Butch.

We have talked before. Just because your memory is short doesn't call

for
just dismissing me as "Henry something-or-other".

Maybe it's you that is irrelevant?


Do ya think he's just trying to forget! Give the guy a break...he still has
some standards.


He set himself up on that one.


Yow.... What'd I do? What'd I do?!?!?

Relax HENRY BLACKMOORE (I got your name right). I meant no harm. I was trying
to defend myself against Don White and understand where he's coming from.

Butch Ammon

Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 06:58 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , "Don White" wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4QZ8c.1769 Must have
been a lot of folks given those "mad-dog" pills because there
are only a handful of states left that didn't pass concealed-carry laws
where law-abiding citizens can carry concealed firearms.

What states are left that didn't pass CC laws? Ohio, Wisconsin, Kansas,
Illinois, Nebraska and ??? It's hard to keep up with all the progress of

the
"gun nuts" and the battles won in state legislatures all around the

country.

Is this true?...
Might be time to build a big fence along the border...sounds like America is
slipping over the edge!


I don't keep up with it like I probably should (being a freedom loving
American and all).

However I know of at least fives states that reformed or passed CC laws in
2003.

Four of those states-Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico & Colorado passed
"shall issue" laws regarding concealed carry. Shall issue basically means
that gun owners must pass a set of stipulations in order to be issued a
concealed carry permit. Alaska however, eased its laws to allow its citizens
to carry concealed firearms WITHOUT a permit (Alaska is next to Canada too).

Since the majority (almost all states now) have made concealed carry permits
availible to the rank and file citizen the big push now is for reciprocity
amongst all the states in which each state would honor the permits of the
other states. Right now there is some reciprocity but it is a patchwork and
not across the board.

And so far the reforms, laws and increases in armed Americans have been a
positive experience. Crys of returning to the "wild wild west" have not
turned out to be the results of such reforms. Contrary to the naysayers,
citizens can be trusted to carry firearms and to protect themselves and their
families.

Sorry Don, but your UN inspired hallucinations are not based on reality.

Folks do have a right to protect themselves.

The government is BY the people and FOR the people not against the people Don.

We are the government. WE tell the government what we want it to do not the
other way around.

You are not any safer with stupid feel-good legislation (gun-control laws)
that are useless against criminals who do not traditionally obey any laws let
alone firearms related ones.

I am truly sorry that you and your socialist ilk cannot grasp such simple
realities and concepts Don.

Cheers!




Don White March 26th 04 07:02 PM

Touring Bike recall
 

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
nk.net...

So let's get this straight, you think that the United Nations is a

beneficial,
largely honest and progressive institution who's ideals should be highly
regarded and valued eh?

Tell us what you really think.


Since the US was heavily involved in founding the UN, I've have to believe
the intentions were positive. Don't you agree?



Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:45 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , 123 (Butch Ammon) wrote:

It's Blackmoore Bitch, I mean Butch.

We have talked before. Just because your memory is short doesn't call
for
just dismissing me as "Henry something-or-other".

Maybe it's you that is irrelevant?


Do ya think he's just trying to forget! Give the guy a break...he still has
some standards.


He set himself up on that one.


Yow.... What'd I do? What'd I do?!?!?

Relax HENRY BLACKMOORE (I got your name right). I meant no harm. I was trying
to defend myself against Don White and understand where he's coming from.

Butch Ammon


That's cool.

I take back my crass remarks.

Pardon moi.


Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:46 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
In article , "Don White" wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
ink.net...

So let's get this straight, you think that the United Nations is a

beneficial,
largely honest and progressive institution who's ideals should be highly
regarded and valued eh?

Tell us what you really think.


Since the US was heavily involved in founding the UN, I've have to believe
the intentions were positive. Don't you agree?


Let's not speak about intentions here. How about the reality?



Harry Krause March 26th 04 11:41 PM

Touring Bike recall
 
Henry Blackmoore wrote:

In article , "Don White" wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
link.net...

So let's get this straight, you think that the United Nations is a


beneficial,

largely honest and progressive institution who's ideals should be highly
regarded and valued eh?

Tell us what you really think.



Since the US was heavily involved in founding the UN, I've have to believe
the intentions were positive. Don't you agree?



Let's not speak about intentions here. How about the reality?



The reality: Bush is the most bloody awful president in the history of
the United States.


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