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"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright

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"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

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"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I. After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I. After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the
weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the
FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want
10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence.
Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I.
After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?

John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

John H

Absolutely. That was the intent right? Just that if you are found out
ahead of time, you don't go ahead with the crime. That would be like a
bank robber, who got ratted out, so that the cops were waiting at the
bank, and the guy attempts to rob it anyway. What else would we have
went to Iraq for? To seek revenge for BushCo's daddy? It wasn't for
WMD's, was it? If so, where ARE they? Or was it to hunt AlQuida? Hmm,
they weren't there, neither. So, was it an attempt for oil, or was it
a complete failure?

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:39:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the
weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the
FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want
10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence.
Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I.
After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?


Sorry, I didn't key on the word "safer." I don't think I used the
term. I can see how a stable government in Iraq could provide for a
"safer" environment in the Middle East, and therefore a safer
environment for our oil supply, over the long term.

I was facetiously questioning the price increase given the liberal
attitude of a year ago, to wit, "We're just going to steal Iraq's
oil."

Given that we pretty much control the country, and given that gas
prices are going up, the 'stealing oil' theory doesn't seem to hold
much water.

Now, what about those job numbers?


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)

Let me get this straight. You liars say for a year that we went to
Iraq for oil, now that turns out not to be the case, you all try to
say the repubs were saying we went there for oil... Same old thing,
lie, and deny. Now you are as much of a clown as Harry and the
potgrower...

"John H" wrote in message
...

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others
pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to
their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?


Sorry, I didn't key on the word "safer." I don't think I used the
term. I can see how a stable government in Iraq could provide for a
"safer" environment in the Middle East, and therefore a safer
environment for our oil supply, over the long term.

For a number of years, we weren't buying Iraqi oil anyway, and other than
the usual summertime vacation price hikes, the price was pretty reasonable &
stable. By any stretch of the imagination, the war should've been a
non-event vis-a-vis oil prices. But, for the benefit of you-know-who, the
war has been artificially connected oil prices.