( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I. After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I. After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the
weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the
FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want
10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence.
Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I.
After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

John H

Absolutely. That was the intent right? Just that if you are found out
ahead of time, you don't go ahead with the crime. That would be like a
bank robber, who got ratted out, so that the cops were waiting at the
bank, and the guy attempts to rob it anyway. What else would we have
went to Iraq for? To seek revenge for BushCo's daddy? It wasn't for
WMD's, was it? If so, where ARE they? Or was it to hunt AlQuida? Hmm,
they weren't there, neither. So, was it an attempt for oil, or was it
a complete failure?

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:39:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the
weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of
Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the
FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want
10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence.
Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I.
After
all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?


Sorry, I didn't key on the word "safer." I don't think I used the
term. I can see how a stable government in Iraq could provide for a
"safer" environment in the Middle East, and therefore a safer
environment for our oil supply, over the long term.

I was facetiously questioning the price increase given the liberal
attitude of a year ago, to wit, "We're just going to steal Iraq's
oil."

Given that we pretty much control the country, and given that gas
prices are going up, the 'stealing oil' theory doesn't seem to hold
much water.

Now, what about those job numbers?


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the weeks
immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of Iraq,"
Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the FBI,
from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)

Let me get this straight. You liars say for a year that we went to
Iraq for oil, now that turns out not to be the case, you all try to
say the repubs were saying we went there for oil... Same old thing,
lie, and deny. Now you are as much of a clown as Harry and the
potgrower...

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"John H" wrote in message
...

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.

Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others
pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to
their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?


Sorry, I didn't key on the word "safer." I don't think I used the
term. I can see how a stable government in Iraq could provide for a
"safer" environment in the Middle East, and therefore a safer
environment for our oil supply, over the long term.

For a number of years, we weren't buying Iraqi oil anyway, and other than
the usual summertime vacation price hikes, the price was pretty reasonable &
stable. By any stretch of the imagination, the war should've been a
non-event vis-a-vis oil prices. But, for the benefit of you-know-who, the
war has been artificially connected oil prices.

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...

That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer
supply
was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want 10
minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence. Just
give
me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)

Let me get this straight. You liars say for a year that we went to
Iraq for oil, now that turns out not to be the case, you all try to
say the repubs were saying we went there for oil... Same old thing,
lie, and deny. Now you are as much of a clown as Harry and the
potgrower...

Hey, Einstein - remember your boy telling us that we needed to have a stable
energy supply, and that removing Saddam was one way of achieving that goal?
Tell me how UNstable the supply was before Saddam, and how that's changed
now.

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill binLaden'
 

I don't usually respond to these of topic threads, but if the Clinton
administration authorized the kill of bin laden then I believe they were
breaking the another law that was passed I believe in the Johnson Nixon?
era that specifically prohibited the US from participating in
assassinations.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:35:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:49:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

Extract

"You know, the White House is papering over facts, such as in the

weeks

immediately after 9/11, the president signed a national security
directive instructing the Pentagon to prepare for the invasion of

Iraq,"

Clarke said. "Even though they knew at the time from me, from the

FBI,

from the CIA that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright


That there invasion sure has helped oil prices, eh? I thought a safer

supply

was supposed to make energy more affordable for this country. I want

10

minutes in a locked room with that president of ours. No violence.

Just

give

me a good-size towel I can roll up and moisten at the end, locker-room
style, and that walking rectum won't sit down for 6 months. :-)


Hell Doug, according to a bunch of folks on your side of the fence we
were going to get it all for nothing! Isn't that what "steal" means?

Perhaps the net result is that someone *is* stealing - from you and I.

After

all, oil, like orange juice and pork bellies, is priced according to what
MIGHT happen in the future.


Where's jcs when I need him. Since we went to Iraq to steal all their
oil, the future should be showing an abundance of oil for the USofA
thieves!

Maybe, given your immense knowledge of almost everything, you can
explain something to me. If the administration is a bunch of liars,
and if the administration wants to remain in power, and if remaining
in power is in any way dependant (sp?) on jobs, and if the job numbers
come from the administration, then why the hell doesn't the
administration just cook the books? Surely they could claim 150000 new
jobs every month and do it in a believable way.


Let's stick to the oil for the moment, John. As you just said, we should
have a safer oil supply after invading Iraq. Never mind the fact that it
wasn't endangered to start with. In any case, the price is going up. The
administration is part of a crowd that's got its hands in each others pants.
Always has, always will. Why is the price going up when, according to their
spew, it's become safer to go & get it?

( OT ) Albright: 'Our personnel were authorized to kill bin Laden'
 

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:45:56 +0000, Keith Nuttl wrote:

I don't usually respond to these of topic threads, but if the Clinton
administration authorized the kill of bin laden then I believe they were
breaking the another law that was passed I believe in the Johnson Nixon?
era that specifically prohibited the US from participating in
assassinations.

I'm not sure it is an actual law, but an Executive Order. Section 2.11 of
Executive Order 12333 proscribes assassination. I'm not a lawyer, but
while Executive Orders seem to have the weight of law, they also seem to
bypass Article 1, Section 1 of the Constitution.

E.O. 12333:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/t...rder12333.html