The reporters of the 60 minutes Kerry re-election team forgot to
mention during the book review that their parent company (Viacom) also
ownes the publisher of Clark's book. And why did the sales date change
to fit the testimony on Capital hill. Talk about biased and hiding it,
geeze, stop at nothing...

Backyard Renegade wrote:

The reporters of the 60 minutes Kerry re-election team forgot to
mention during the book review that their parent company (Viacom) also
ownes the publisher of Clark's book. And why did the sales date change
to fit the testimony on Capital hill. Talk about biased and hiding it,
geeze, stop at nothing...


The operators of the Bush Regime forgot to mention their ties to Big
Oil, Saudi Arabia and the bin Laden family.

(Backyard Renegade) wrote in message . com...
The reporters of the 60 minutes Kerry re-election team forgot to
mention during the book review that their parent company (Viacom) also
ownes the publisher of Clark's book. And why did the sales date change
to fit the testimony on Capital hill. Talk about biased and hiding it,
geeze, stop at nothing...

How were they/are they "hiding it"?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:54:01 -0800, Backyard Renegade wrote:

The reporters of the 60 minutes Kerry re-election team forgot to mention
during the book review that their parent company (Viacom) also ownes the
publisher of Clark's book. And why did the sales date change to fit the
testimony on Capital hill. Talk about biased and hiding it, geeze, stop at
nothing...

Frankly, for years, I have thought of 60 Minutes as lousy entertainment,
not news and I don't watch it. It doesn't change what Clarke said, but if
it upsets you, why not boycott Viacom. You can start by not watching:
MTV
MTV2
Nickelodeon
BET
VH1
CMT
Comedy Central
Showtime
Movie Channel

Avoid:
Paramount Pictures
Simon & Schuster
Blockbuster Video

And let's not forget radio.

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/viacom.asp

(Backyard Renegade) wrote in message

Fact: Clark testified in congress just about the opposite of what he
says now.

Please give some examples of the above.

Fact: Saddam was paying homicide pig dogs in Isreal and Palistine.

So? Is there a specific point to the above?

Fact: We went to Afganistan, Horn of Africa, the Phillipines, and a
couple of other spots chasing AlQueda long before we went to Iraq.

Yes, but did Bush tell us we needed to go to war with Iraq because of
AlQueda and WMDS?

Fact: The majority of those saying there are no wmd in Iraq, are also
fundamentally opposed to the war and the Bush administration.

That's odd. Show us those WMD's and we'll probably believe it! Funny,
but even Bush is saying there are none now. Is HE opposed to the war,
and himself?

Fact: The UN, especially France, Germany, and Russia were making
billions (with a B) as well as the possibility (at least as beleivable
as these new timely attacks on Bush) of Annon and his own family
members being involved in "possibly the biggest scam in world
history"...There was no way they were ever going to approve a move
into Iraq. This is coming from the USGAO, not some political shill,
biding for a job in a new administration and trying to sell a book.

Proof, please.

"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
I saw the interview and wondered why the most important questions weren't
asked: "if you were the terrorist czar for the past 24 years, why did you
not see 9/11 coming? And where were you during the bombing of the marine
barracks in Beirut? During Somalia? The first attack on the WTC? The USS
Cole? The Khobar Towers? "

The guy remained silent when we were turning tail in Beirut and Somalia, and
he remained silent when the Clinton Administration was pursuing terrorists
through criminal prosecution...rather than holding accountable the countries
that sponsored them. His advice and/or policies likely played a large role
in the strength of the enemy today.

It's pure partisan politics. Clarke doesn't agree with going after the
countries that sponsor terrorists. Instead, he advocates the laughable idea
of punishing terrorists in our criminal courts.

You may think his book and interview will make a difference. I'm telling
you that 95% of Americans, if asked about him in a month, will say they
never even heard of the guy.

Here are some things Clarke has said, regarding specific people.

Former terrorism adviser describes top U.S. officials

The Associated Press
Sunday, March 21, 2004


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(03-21) 23:31 PST (AP) --

Richard A. Clarke's commentary on top government leaders, from his new
book, "Against All Enemies."

* President Bush: Clarke blames Bush for doing a "terrible job"
fighting terrorism. Says "the critique of him as a dumb, lazy rich kid
was somewhat off the mark," but that Bush looks for "the simple
solution, the bumper-sticker description of the problem."

* President Clinton: Clarke says he was "beyond mad" over Clinton's
lack of discretion that led to his impeachment, but generally praises
Clinton as a charismatic, sharp thinker who couldn't get the CIA,
Pentagon and FBI to deal with terrorism issues. Says Clinton's
approval of missile attacks against Iraq over the assassination
attempt during Bush's father's presidency deterred Saddam Hussein from
future terrorism against America.

* Vice President Dick Cheney: Clarke describes Cheney as quiet and
calm but radically conservative. Says Cheney believes U.S. could
handle Iraq alone and "everyone else is just more trouble than they
are worth." Blames Cheney for failing to speak out about the threat of
al-Qaida during senior White House meetings.

* CIA Director George Tenet: Clarke says Tenet "was as much concerned
with the threat of al-Qaida as anyone in the government prior to
September 11" but was struggling with internal rebuilding at the CIA.
Tenet is quoted as saying in June 2001, "It's my sixth sense, but I
feel it coming. This is going to be the big one." Says Tenet and
Clarke jointly scrapped a doomed plan to capture bin Laden in 1996 at
the heavily guarded Tarnak farm in Afghanistan. Clarke complains
regularly about failures by CIA to insert spies effectively into
Afghanistan and Somalia.

* National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice: Clarke says Rice, who
effectively demoted Clarke after Bush's election, has "a closer
relationship with the second President Bush than any of her
predecessors had with the presidents they reported to." Says she
"looked skeptical" when Clarke briefed her early in 2001 about
al-Qaida threats.

* Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: Clarke accuses Rumsfeld of
plotting to bomb Iraq one day after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks,
despite any evidence of Iraqi involvement. Says Rumsfeld noted there
weren't any good bombing targets in Afghanistan but plenty of targets
in Iraq. "At first I thought Rumsfeld was joking. But he was serious
and the president did not reject out of hand the idea of attacking
Iraq," Clarke wrote.

* Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz: Clarke quotes him as saying
during an April 2001 meeting, "I just don't understand why we are
beginning by talking about this one man bin Laden," and telling
Clarke, "You give bin Laden too much credit."

* Secretary of State Colin Powell: Clarke praises Powell for urging
focus on al-Qaida, not Iraq, immediately after 2001 attacks. Credited
for recognizing al-Qaida threat early in 2001.

* Attorney General John Ashcroft: Clarke criticizes Ashcroft over his
response to the 2001 attacks, especially over handling of alleged
"dirty bomber" Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. "The attorney
general, rather than bringing us together, managed to persuade much of
the country that the needed reforms of the Patriot Act were actually
the beginning of fascism." Clarke says an unidentified staffer asked
him after meeting with Ashcroft early in 2001, "He can't really be
that slow, can he?" Clarke's response: "He did lose a Senate
re-election to a dead man."

* FBI Director Robert Mueller: Clarke says Mueller, who was hired days
before the 2001 attacks, "cannot be blamed for the failure of the
bureau to find al-Qaida or even to have a computer network prior to
then." But he complains that the FBI, under Mueller, hasn't managed to
keep its top counterterrorism experts from retiring.

* Former FBI Director Louis Freeh: Clarke blames Freeh for failing to
coordinate largely independent FBI field offices or upgrade their
computer networks.

On 22 Mar 2004 04:35:17 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:



Here are some things Clarke has said, regarding specific people.

Former terrorism adviser describes top U.S. officials

The Associated Press
Sunday, March 21, 2004
Snipped


Now, who is more credible, Krause or Clarke?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote in message . ..
On 22 Mar 2004 04:35:17 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:



Here are some things Clarke has said, regarding specific people.

Former terrorism adviser describes top U.S. officials

The Associated Press
Sunday, March 21, 2004
Snipped


Now, who is more credible, Krause or Clarke?

John H

John, quit being such a dolt, okay? What to hell does one have to do
with the other? Can Harry not be credible, if Clarke is, and can
Clarke not be credible if Harry is? Now, think, John, and if you DO
think, you'll agree that your question above was just plain idiotic.

On 22 Mar 2004 11:50:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 22 Mar 2004 04:35:17 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:



Here are some things Clarke has said, regarding specific people.

Former terrorism adviser describes top U.S. officials

The Associated Press
Sunday, March 21, 2004
Snipped


Now, who is more credible, Krause or Clarke?

John H

John, quit being such a dolt, okay? What to hell does one have to do
with the other? Can Harry not be credible, if Clarke is, and can
Clarke not be credible if Harry is? Now, think, John, and if you DO
think, you'll agree that your question above was just plain idiotic.

Are you saying there is no difference in their credibility?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
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* President Clinton: ...generally praises
Clinton as a charismatic, sharp thinker who couldn't get the CIA,
Pentagon and FBI to deal with terrorism issues.

Sure...no partisan bull**** there.

"It was Bush's fault that we had 9/11"
But...
"It wasn't Clinton's fault that we had the 1993 WTC attack, the deaths in
Somalia, the bombing of the Khobar towers, and the bombing of the USS Cole
BECAUSE THE CIA, PENTAGON, AND FBI WOULDN'T LISTEN TO CLINTON!?!?"

He conveniently blames the CIA, Pentagon, and FBI for inaction under
Clinton...but gives them a pass and instead faults Bush for 9/11. Clarke is
a scumbag, two-faced liar, who is in cahoots with Rand Beers in getting Bush
removed and Kerry elected.