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LaBomba182 March 16th 04 02:21 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Subject: Best 34 foot blue water cruiser... Jax warning
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 3/16/04 12:46 AM Eastern


yes, dougies said that.


Labomba 182 wrote

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a

more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen

miles
every weekend?


Is that true! LOL

Capt. Bill


Gottja! See below.


From: JAXAshby )

Subject: A good NG gone bad


View this article only

Newsgroups: rec.boats
Date: 2004-03-13 06:53:51 PST



100 a day?


I don't open any political post, seldom read anything by Harry, never

anything
by LaBomba182,




That was to easy.

So, tell us again how you NEVER see any thing by me?


Capt. Bill

otnmbrd March 17th 04 01:06 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Jax doesn't have a reality, just a dream world of his own making.
When you read his post on any boating subject, it becomes painfully
clear that all his information comes from reading some brochures and
basic text on any given subject he will pontificate upon.
Generally, the only ones who will be caught by his nonsense are
"newbies" to the NG and boating.
Thankfully, it becomes clear, quickly, that he knows not about that
which he speaks and in general, everyone can sit back and watch him make
ANOTHER screaming ass of himself.
Recently, he was pontificating about RDF and promised all a further
installment regarding the "how to" of said subject. Alas, he got so many
negative/laughing responses to his initial RDF "thesis", that even he of
little mental comprehension, decided it was best not to continue, and in
an effort to divert, he created an argument regarding early computers.
Having "plonked" the dummy, I can't tell if his daily posting quotient
is still up there, but from the number of laughing/negative responses,
where the Jaxass's name comes into play, I must assume he may be back
under medical care and has resumed taking his "meds".

otn

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 16 Mar 2004 14:21:34 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: Best 34 foot blue water cruiser... Jax warning




SNIP

Not really.... JAX is caught in his own reality. By observing his
opinions, behavior, etc..... it causes the reality to spin the other
way.

Strange, but backed up by theoretical math and physics. A special
case, as it were, just like JAX.

Example: Jax wearing a tuxedo.... which, when observed, appears as
Speedos......



JAXAshby March 17th 04 01:09 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
When you read his posts on any boating subject, it becomes painfully
clear that all his information comes from
experience



Steven Shelikoff March 17th 04 01:18 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:06:47 GMT, otnmbrd wrote:

Recently, he was pontificating about RDF and promised all a further
installment regarding the "how to" of said subject. Alas, he got so many
negative/laughing responses to his initial RDF "thesis", that even he of
little mental comprehension, decided it was best not to continue, and in
an effort to divert, he created an argument regarding early computers.
Having "plonked" the dummy, I can't tell if his daily posting quotient
is still up there, but from the number of laughing/negative responses,
where the Jaxass's name comes into play, I must assume he may be back
under medical care and has resumed taking his "meds".


Here's some oldie but goodie gems from Jax that I dug up, all said
seriously:

By definition, the Earth's surface is planar.
An ICBM has no navigation system.
There's no outside reference when using DR to navigate.
It costs $15,000/year to make 10gals of water/day with a shipboard
watermaker.
The human head can take about a 7 G blow before death becomes certain.
A rhumb line is a straight line on any chart, Mercator chart (sic) or
otherwise.
A rhumb is distance between two points one compass point apart.
Alternators are (for all practical purposes) capable of only producing
one voltage, no matter the rpm.
If you can see outside reference points, then you KNOW where you are...
There is no such thing as a north seeking gyro.

Steve

Shen44 March 17th 04 01:58 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 

When you read his posts on any boating subject, it becomes painfully
clear that all his information comes from
experience




Give it a rest, Jax, at best you'd fall into the category of "newbie" .... at
worst, some one with not enough brainpower to convert what he reads and or
experiences, into useable and/or practical actions or responses.
You may have a high IQ, but you definitely fall into the "stupid" category when
it comes to application and/or understanding.

Shen

JAXAshby March 17th 04 02:46 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
By definition, the Earth's surface is planar.

for the area under consideration, i.e. a hundred mile trip.

An ICBM has no navigation system.


"ballistic" means "ballistic"



There's no outside reference when using DR to navigate.


deduced reckoning is navigating by compass and knot log. neither are outside
references as to position

It costs $15,000/year to make 10gals of water/day with a shipboard
watermaker.


Don Casey says it is a dollar a gallon. The cost accountants would give the
higher figure, in the context of the problem under then discusssion.

etc.



JAXAshby March 17th 04 02:52 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
shen, you are a superstitious sailor wannabee. Supersition is by definition
the thought patterns and conclusions of the stupid with or without "time on
deck" wannabee is the definition of of those without tod.

it is near to impossible to have a rational discussion with the superstitious,
for the stupid are not normally much capable of rational thought -- it hurts
too much -- and mostly when ever they are faced with new information they deny
it and revert to wearing a red shirt to keep waves from boarding.

sorry shen, but *you* must NEVER take an EPIRB aboard. EPIRBS make you sterile
and cause boats to sink.



Steven Shelikoff March 17th 04 11:27 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 17 Mar 2004 14:46:14 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

By definition, the Earth's surface is planar.


for the area under consideration, i.e. a hundred mile trip.


Ah, I see. So then you're saying that if you are in NYC you can see
Philadelphia on a clear day, since they are only around 80 miles apart.
Very good. You nailed that one.

An ICBM has no navigation system.


"ballistic" means "ballistic"


Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

There's no outside reference when using DR to navigate.


deduced reckoning is navigating by compass and knot log. neither are outside
references as to position


Ah, I see. So a compass works without any outside reference, i.e., the
Earth's magnetic field. Very good. You nailed that one too and are
doing very well.

It costs $15,000/year to make 10gals of water/day with a shipboard
watermaker.


Don Casey says it is a dollar a gallon. The cost accountants would give the
higher figure, in the context of the problem under then discusssion.


Ah, I see. So 10gals/day at $1/per gal equates to $15,000/year. Very
good. You nailed that one too. You really are a whiz and are 4 for 4.
Care to try the rest?

He
The human head can take about a 7 G blow before death becomes certain.
A rhumb line is a straight line on any chart, Mercator chart (sic) or
otherwise.
A rhumb is distance between two points one compass point apart.
Alternators are (for all practical purposes) capable of only producing
one voltage, no matter the rpm.
If you can see outside reference points, then you KNOW where you are...
There is no such thing as a north seeking gyro.

Steve

JAXAshby March 18th 04 03:22 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Ah, I see. So then you're saying that if you are in NYC you can see
Philadelphia on a clear day, since they are only around 80 miles apart.
Very good. You nailed that one.


and the *difference in distances using planer math is *how* much different that
using spherical math?



JAXAshby March 18th 04 03:24 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.


who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.

JAXAshby March 18th 04 03:25 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Ah, I see. So a compass works without any outside reference, i.e., the
Earth's magnetic field.


and a compass tells you where on the planet you are, right?

dumb cluck. you don't even understand the English language.

Florida Keyz March 18th 04 03:56 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
When ever Jax talks , it s like someone farted in a very small room.

basskisser March 18th 04 12:21 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
Ah, I see. So then you're saying that if you are in NYC you can see
Philadelphia on a clear day, since they are only around 80 miles apart.
Very good. You nailed that one.


and the *difference in distances using planer math is *how* much
different that
using spherical math? Quite a bit, actually, when compared to the
actual distance travelled spherically, and the relative distance,
planar, then that ratio IS measurable, and real.

JAXAshby March 18th 04 03:04 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
idiot, the difference is neglible in the context.

before you responde, look up -- AND understand -- each word.

(basskisser)




Eric March 18th 04 07:19 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.


(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.


who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.


Eric March 18th 04 07:28 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
"Definition: [n] a missile that is guided in the first part of its
flight but falls freely as it approaches target"


(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.


who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.


JAXAshby March 18th 04 07:36 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
how did trash from @posting.google.com get through my filter. let me reset
that thing.



From: (Eric)
Date: 3/18/2004 2:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.


(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.


who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as

they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.










Steven Shelikoff March 19th 04 12:02 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 18 Mar 2004 11:19:27 -0800, (Eric) wrote:

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.


Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.


who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.



JAXAshby March 19th 04 02:18 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out -- on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.


Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message

...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as

they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.











Steven Shelikoff March 19th 04 01:24 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 19 Mar 2004 02:18:07 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out -- on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.


You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.


Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message

...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as

they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.












JAXAshby March 19th 04 03:21 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
yeah, geocities.

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out --

on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.


You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.



















Steven Shelikoff March 19th 04 04:22 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 19 Mar 2004 15:21:12 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

yeah, geocities.


Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system


http://www.strategic-air-command.com..._Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

....the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out --

on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.


You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.




















JAXAshby March 19th 04 05:33 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...



yeah, geocities.


Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis

sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out

--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing

straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target

as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.




























Marc March 19th 04 06:15 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Titan II Intercontinental Ballistic Missle (ICBM)

http://home.teleport.com/~boelling/titanD.html

ICBM's were powered during 1/6th of their flight and were directed by
inertial guidence systems during that portion of the flight.

sorry Jax.

On 19 Mar 2004 17:33:40 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...



yeah, geocities.


Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis

sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out

--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing

straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target

as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.




























basskisser March 19th 04 06:49 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
idiot, the difference is neglible in the context.

before you responde, look up -- AND understand -- each word.

(basskisser)


Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?

JAXAshby March 19th 04 08:31 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
bass, **IN THE CONTEXT** given, the difference in distance over 120 nm is about
0.000872225 miles, or a little over 3 feet.

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?









JAXAshby March 19th 04 08:44 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
From an English language dictionary.

note how the term differs from a *guided* missile, which is NOT thrown.
"ballistic" is the term that differeniates the two weapons.


ICBM
abbr.

intercontinental ballistic missile

inter-
pref.

Between; among: international
bal·lis·tic
adj.

Of or relating to the study of the dynamics of projectiles

pro·jec·tile
n.

A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no
capacity for self-propulsion.
A self-propelled missile, such as a rocket.


Steven Shelikoff March 19th 04 11:26 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 19 Mar 2004 17:33:40 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.

now, about that NewSpeak you found -- the one that change the word "ballistic"
to "guided" without changing the word, AND the one that changes the word
"intercontinental" to "short range" without changing the word ...


You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.

Well, an ICBM is just like a bullet. It's guided for the initial
portion of it's trip to the target and follows a ballistic trajectory
for the final portion. The only difference is that the bullet's
guidance system is the barrel and the ICBM's is an inertial navigation
system or now GPS.

JaxSpeak is certainly a strange language. Are you now going to try and
claim that a bullet fired from a gun is not ballistic since it's guided
by the barrel?

Steve

yeah, geocities.


Well, at least we now know that you know you were wrong when you said he
made that quote up. But since you don't like geocities, how about these
for starters:

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=113

LGM-30 MINUTEMAN III
Primary Function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance systems: Inertial system



http://www.strategic-air-command.com...eacekeeper_Mis

sile_Home_Page.htm

Peacekeeper
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Guidance system: Inertial

...the MX's extremely accurate guidance--an inertial system capable of
being updated in flight by signals from navigation satellites...

Damn Jax, if you were only smart enough to do a google search on "ICBM
navigation system" you'd realize how wrong you are.

Steve

shen, you don't seem to have enough intelligenc to be able to figure out

--
on
your best day -- that eric made that quote up.

You're hilarious. First, you don't even know who you're responding to.
And second, if you actually had enough "intelligenc" to do a google
search you'd see that he didn't make it up at all, that it's a verbatim
cut'n'paste from he

http://www.geocities.com/minuteman_missile/specs.htm

So tell me again how ICBMs have no navigation system...

Steve

Minuteman ICBM Technical Specifications:

Guidance:

Improved NS-20 (INS-20) gimbaled inertial guidance system
manufactured by Autonetics Division, Rockwell International. The bus,
or post-boost vehicle, is maneuvered by six pitch and yaw motors, and
four smaller roll motors. Current plans are to retrofit the existing
force with the gimballess AIRS (advanced inertial reference sphere)
developed for the Peacekeeper (MX) missile. This will increase
accuracy to 330ft (100 m), comparable to the Peacekeeper.

Jax is too funny. Now he's trying to convince people that the inertial
navigation system in ICBMs that guide them to "aim towards a target as
they lift off" (his words) is not a navigation system.

Talk about not even knowing English as a language.

Steve

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
Ah, I see. So then since the ICBMs are in the silos pointing

straight
up and they have no navigation system, then the only thing they could
ever possibly hit is the silo that launched them. Very good. You
nailed that one too.

who said that couldn't be programed to turned to aim towards a target

as
they
lift off. Who said that was a "navigation" system.

dumb cluck. don't even know English as a language.





























Jeff Morris March 20th 04 06:10 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
Jaxie's original "context" was actually simply mathematics. His "planar"
comment was part of the great "3 dimensional vector" discussion, where jaxie
revealed his ignorance in a variety of disciplines. (The ICBM comment was also
from that.)

His actual comment was:

"btw, if vectors are "3 dimensional", just how can they be used at a point on
the Earth's surface (which by definition is planer)."


And on ICBM's:
"An Inter Continental Ballistic Missile is "ballistic" and thus has no
navigation system."


And, of course, jaxie just made up his "answer," and was wrong by a few orders
of magnitude. The difference between a Rhumb Line and a Great Circle route can
be a tenth of a mile on a 120 mile trip, and almost a degree on initial heading
at mid latitudes. Not a great difference, I'd argue that there are difference
aspects of the "non-planar" nature of the ocean that are of more relevance to
the coastal sailor. In fact, one sees the effect on any trip longer than a few
miles.

Of course, near the poles this could be more significant At 70 N, for
instance, to go 100 miles East your heading should be 87.6 degrees.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bass, **IN THE CONTEXT** given, the difference in distance over 120 nm is

about
0.000872225 miles, or a little over 3 feet.

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?











JAXAshby March 21st 04 01:00 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.


ballistic

\Bal*lis"tic\, a. 1. Of or pertaining to the ballista, or to the art of hurling
stones or missile weapons by means of an engine.


ballistic

adj : relating to or characteristic of the motion of objects moving under their
own momentum and the force of gravity; "ballistic missile"


JAXAshby March 21st 04 01:01 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.




JAXAshby March 21st 04 01:02 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
jeffie, go ask your wife to review your posts before sending. be careful that
she is in a good mood, otherwise she might scold you for what you write.



Jaxie's original "context" was actually simply mathematics. His "planar"
comment was part of the great "3 dimensional vector" discussion, where jaxie
revealed his ignorance in a variety of disciplines. (The ICBM comment was
also
from that.)

His actual comment was:

"btw, if vectors are "3 dimensional", just how can they be used at a point on
the Earth's surface (which by definition is planer)."


And on ICBM's:
"An Inter Continental Ballistic Missile is "ballistic" and thus has no
navigation system."


And, of course, jaxie just made up his "answer," and was wrong by a few
orders
of magnitude. The difference between a Rhumb Line and a Great Circle route
can
be a tenth of a mile on a 120 mile trip, and almost a degree on initial
heading
at mid latitudes. Not a great difference, I'd argue that there are
difference
aspects of the "non-planar" nature of the ocean that are of more relevance to
the coastal sailor. In fact, one sees the effect on any trip longer than a
few
miles.

Of course, near the poles this could be more significant At 70 N, for
instance, to go 100 miles East your heading should be 87.6 degrees.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bass, **IN THE CONTEXT** given, the difference in distance over 120 nm is

about
0.000872225 miles, or a little over 3 feet.

Oh, I totally understand the differences between planar and spherical
mathematics. I also understand that you are foolish if you think that,
when measuring distances across the earth's surface, there is
absolutely no way that planar math will give you the correct distance.
No more that than in ANY circle. The chord length will ALWAYS be
shorter than the arc length of the same segment. Do you disagree with
this statement? If so, how?



















Steven Shelikoff March 21st 04 03:36 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 21 Mar 2004 01:00:51 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.


ballistic

\Bal*lis"tic\, a. 1. Of or pertaining to the ballista, or to the art of hurling
stones or missile weapons by means of an engine.

ballistic

adj : relating to or characteristic of the motion of objects moving under their
own momentum and the force of gravity; "ballistic missile"


Neither of those definitions preclude an ICBM from having a navigation
system since they are obviously only ballistic for a portion of their
flight path, not the entire path. Just like a bullet or hurling stone
or missile weapons, all of which are ballistic weapons but do not follow
a path strictly under their own momentum and the force of gravity for
the entire trip. They all have to get started somehow. The way you are
limiting their motion, all they could do is fall when dropped.

Face it Jaxie, even though it's obvious you are only arguing for the
sake of argument, you can't even do that effectively.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff March 21st 04 03:36 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 21 Mar 2004 01:01:23 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, English even as a third language is way beyond you. You are
FORBIDDEN to own an EPIRB. Let Darwin teach you how to navigate.


Time for you to go back to rehab. The last trip didn't take.

Steve

JAXAshby March 21st 04 11:37 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
schlackoff, do no attempt to write English here. use your native language
only. English is beyond you.

You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.


ballistic

\Bal*lis"tic\, a. 1. Of or pertaining to the ballista, or to the art of

hurling
stones or missile weapons by means of an engine.

ballistic

adj : relating to or characteristic of the motion of objects moving under

their
own momentum and the force of gravity; "ballistic missile"


Neither of those definitions preclude an ICBM from having a navigation
system since they are obviously only ballistic for a portion of their
flight path, not the entire path. Just like a bullet or hurling stone
or missile weapons, all of which are ballistic weapons but do not follow
a path strictly under their own momentum and the force of gravity for
the entire trip. They all have to get started somehow. The way you are
limiting their motion, all they could do is fall when dropped.

Face it Jaxie, even though it's obvious you are only arguing for the
sake of argument, you can't even do that effectively.

Steve









Steven Shelikoff March 22nd 04 07:24 AM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
On 21 Mar 2004 23:37:44 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, do no attempt to write English here. use your native language
only. English is beyond you.


Good one jaxie. Your intelligence is shining through as usual.

Steve

You're too funny Jax. According to your strict definition, a bullet is
not ballistic either since it's guided by the gun barrel for the initial
portion of it's flight and travels in a straight line, not a ballistic
flight path, for that portion of it's journey to the target.

ballistic

\Bal*lis"tic\, a. 1. Of or pertaining to the ballista, or to the art of

hurling
stones or missile weapons by means of an engine.

ballistic

adj : relating to or characteristic of the motion of objects moving under

their
own momentum and the force of gravity; "ballistic missile"


Neither of those definitions preclude an ICBM from having a navigation
system since they are obviously only ballistic for a portion of their
flight path, not the entire path. Just like a bullet or hurling stone
or missile weapons, all of which are ballistic weapons but do not follow
a path strictly under their own momentum and the force of gravity for
the entire trip. They all have to get started somehow. The way you are
limiting their motion, all they could do is fall when dropped.

Face it Jaxie, even though it's obvious you are only arguing for the
sake of argument, you can't even do that effectively.

Steve










JAXAshby March 22nd 04 12:27 PM

jaxashby caught in his own lie
 
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