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[email protected] March 14th 04 08:09 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat traps?

Don White March 14th 04 09:14 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets

inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat

traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Marc March 14th 04 10:32 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Go to Home Depot and buy a "hav-a-heart" trap, Racoon size. Bait it
with tuna. When you catch the bastid, tie a teather to the trap, throw
it over the side and tow it out to sea.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:14:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets

inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat

traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Butch Ammon March 14th 04 11:39 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.


Try again. This time practice and use .22 hollow points.


CCI Stingers in .22LR are a good choice too! :-

Butch Ammon

bajaman March 14th 04 11:39 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
The traps work surprisingly well. I have trapped approximately 20 cats in
the last 2 months using a live trap. I have several really nice cars that I
was tired of the damned feral ******* cats climbing on when I'd leave my
garages doors open. Not to mention the shredding of the garbage bags
awaiting collection.
Once you have them trapped, they are yours to do with what you will.
A word of advice, if you just haul them off somewhere, go AT LEAST 10 miles
away, and cross a couple of bodies of water if you can. Otherwise the
*******s will damned near beat you back home!

I've also broke out my old recurve bow and gone "hunting". Nice and silent,
and provides a relatively quick kill (though a stuck cat certainly YOWLS a
lot!). I'd avoid poisons and firearms in any sort of municipal area, too
much chance for things to go wrong.



wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets

inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat

traps?



Butch Ammon March 15th 04 12:30 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Try again. This time practice and use .22 hollow points.


CCI Stingers in .22LR are a good choice too! :-

Butch Ammon


Problem with that scenario is when Han Solo shot the laser weapon in
the garbage dump in Star Wars.

Sheesh....I want the friggin cat, not my boat, the dock master, and
about 13 other innocent bystanders.


It's okay.... May the force be with you! LOL!!!

Actually, a Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons scope on it (or other small rifle along
those lines) might freak people out at a marina. So, something more subtle and
discrete is a better option. The humane traps are the best way to rid yourself
of an unwanted critter. Or, be more daring and use a C02 pellet pistol!

Butch Ammon

Clams Canino March 15th 04 01:11 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
My exact setup. LOL

-W

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message

Actually, a Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons scope on it




Don White March 15th 04 01:53 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

Gene Kearns wrote in message
...

Ah, one of the simple pleasures of living in the South. Reminds me of
the time the wife and I watched our ****ed-off neighbor, .357 in hand,
go after a bunch of cats raiding his trash barrel.

I don't think he got any of them, but damn, was it funny watching
those cats come zooming out of that barrel as if shot by a catapult
and the neighbor blasting away at his trash barrel like "Dirty Harry."


You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.
What do you do when the kids act up?
Put a little rock salt in the old 12 gauge and tell them to git runnin'?



[email protected] March 15th 04 01:56 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again! Thanks for the help!
 
Problem solved several ways, but, the best part is this afternoon I saw a
Chinese restaraunt is opening up across the parking lots. I have .25 cal.,
but not hollow points. That is actually a very good suggesstion, because the
area is well above the water line.

If I can trap a hundred to two, I'll have money for enough fuel for the
season! (heeeeeere kittykittykittykittykittykittykitty)

(will be back...have to get some razor wire and run a 440V line.......)

___m___~¿Õ____m___ March 15th 04 02:50 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Don White wrote:

I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.


This is the best choise. The other methods mentioned could get you some
"real" prison time in many parts of the country. Believe it or not.

Local SPCA will usually supply a trap with only a deposit that is refunded
when trap is returned. They will even come and pick up the offender. Tuna
is the best smelling bait but small can of gourmet? cat food works too.

A`donation to your local SPCA might just help your tax situation and give
you a real fuzzie feeling at the same time.

Worked for me when I had a family of feral cats residing under my yard
building annoying the dogs, and an idiot neighbor who felt sorry for them
and put food out for them. They didn't dig in her flower beds though.



I had a lady I worked with ask me what squirrel taste like once.
My reply, Just like cat.
You can only imagin the expression on her face, as she was caught totally
off guard.
Good for a laugh though.
--
__________m___~¿Õ____m__________________



Clams Canino March 15th 04 04:18 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
I donate to the SPCA every time I need a new pootch. :)

I reccommend getting the German Shepard / Golden Retriever mix mutt - you
get a smart dog, with a good bark, that likes to play fetch.

-W


"___m___~¿Õ____m___" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.


This is the best choise. The other methods mentioned could get you some
"real" prison time in many parts of the country. Believe it or not.

Local SPCA will usually supply a trap with only a deposit that is

refunded
when trap is returned. They will even come and pick up the offender. Tuna
is the best smelling bait but small can of gourmet? cat food works too.

A`donation to your local SPCA might just help your tax situation and give
you a real fuzzie feeling at the same time.

Worked for me when I had a family of feral cats residing under my yard
building annoying the dogs, and an idiot neighbor who felt sorry for them
and put food out for them. They didn't dig in her flower beds though.



I had a lady I worked with ask me what squirrel taste like once.
My reply, Just like cat.
You can only imagin the expression on her face, as she was caught totally
off guard.
Good for a laugh though.
--
__________m___~¿Õ____m__________________





Jim March 15th 04 05:36 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Don,

Sorry for the correction, but it's 'you all' in the North. Down South
it's y'all (singular) and all y'all (plural).

Perhaps the following will help you if you ever decide to head south.
Just got this a week or so ago. Not boating related, but educational.
:^)

If you are from the northern states and are planning on visiting or
moving to the South, there are a few things you should know that
will help you adapt to the difference in lifestyles:

The North has coffee houses,
The South has Waffle Houses.

The North has dating services,
The South has family reunions.

The North has switchblade knives,
The South has Lee Press-on Nails.

The North has double last names,
The South has double first names.

The North has Ted Kennedy,
The South has Jesse Helms.

The North has Indy car races,
The South has stock car races.

The North has Cream of Wheat,
The South has grits.

The North has green salads,
The South has collard greens.

The North has lobsters,
The South has crawdads.

The North has the rust belt,
The South has the Bible Belt.

In the South:

If you run your car into a ditch, don't panic, four men in a
four-wheel drive pickup truck with a tow chain will be along
shortly. Don't try to help them, just stay out of their way; this is
what they live for.

Don't be surprised to find movie rentals and bait in the same
store.... Do not buy any food at this store!

Remember, "y'all" is singular, "all y'all" is plural, and "all
y'all's" is plural possessive.

Get used to hearing "You ain't from round here, are ya?"

Save all manner of bacon grease. You will be instructed later
on how to use it.

Don't be worried at not understanding what people are saying.
They can't understand you either.
The first Southern statement to creep into a transplanted
Northerner's vocabulary is the adjective "big'ol" truck or
"big'ol" boy. Most Northerners begin their Southern-influenced
dialect this

way. All of them are in denial about it

The proper pronunciation you learned in school is no longer proper.

Be advised that "He needed killin" is a valid defense here.

If you hear a Southerner exclaim, "Hey, y'all, watch this," you
should immediately move aside and stay out of the way.
These are likely to be the last words he'll ever say.

If there is the prediction of the slightest chance of even the
smallest accumulation of snow, your presence is required at the
local grocery store. It doesn't matter whether you need anything
or not, you just have to go there.

Do not be surprised to find that 10-year-olds own their own
shotguns, they are proficient marksmen, and their mammas taught
them how to aim.

In the South, we have found that the best way to grow a lush
green lawn is to pour gravel on it and call it a driveway.

In the north, iced tea has "seasons."
In the south, the question is "sweet or unsweetened."

AND REMEMBER:

If you do settle in the South and bear children, don't think we
will accept them as Southerners. After all, if the cat had kittens
in the oven, we wouldn't call 'em biscuits.

Send this to four people that ain't related to you, and I
reckon your life will turn into a country music song 'fore you know it.
Your relatives would get a kick out of it also!





DSK March 15th 04 12:06 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Don White wrote:
You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.
What do you do when the kids act up?
Put a little rock salt in the old 12 gauge and tell them to git runnin'?


Depends on how old they are, and how good a shot you are.

DSK


basskisser March 15th 04 12:28 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
"Don White" wrote in message ...
Gene Kearns wrote in message
...

Ah, one of the simple pleasures of living in the South. Reminds me of
the time the wife and I watched our ****ed-off neighbor, .357 in hand,
go after a bunch of cats raiding his trash barrel.

I don't think he got any of them, but damn, was it funny watching
those cats come zooming out of that barrel as if shot by a catapult
and the neighbor blasting away at his trash barrel like "Dirty Harry."


You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.


Nah, only the hillbilly-ish ones. They think the NRA is their government.

Don White March 15th 04 03:01 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

Gene Kearns wrote in message
...
Wayull.... I shore have dunnit to other fokes kids when they raid
the mellon patch. An I can tell from yore attitud that you better kep
your broad *ss offn my property or you'll git the same.


You 'boys' & your guns. Bad enough they are so prevalent down there...but
please keep them out of Canada.

see *** http://toronto.cbc.ca/features/staring/elwand2.jsp ***



DSK March 15th 04 03:52 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Don White wrote:
You 'boys' & your guns. Bad enough they are so prevalent down there...but
please keep them out of Canada.


Why? I been tole that them moose are pretty good eatin'

DSK


Don White March 15th 04 03:57 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

DSK wrote in message
.. .
Don White wrote:
You 'boys' & your guns. Bad enough they are so prevalent down

there...but
please keep them out of Canada.


Why? I been tole that them moose are pretty good eatin'

DSK



Very limited number of hunting licenses issued for moose in Nova Scotia.
Used to be around 1000 under a lottery system.
My theory still is...if they don't shoot at me...I don't shoot at them.



NOYB March 15th 04 06:18 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Don White" wrote in message

...
Gene Kearns wrote in message
...

Ah, one of the simple pleasures of living in the South. Reminds me of
the time the wife and I watched our ****ed-off neighbor, .357 in hand,
go after a bunch of cats raiding his trash barrel.

I don't think he got any of them, but damn, was it funny watching
those cats come zooming out of that barrel as if shot by a catapult
and the neighbor blasting away at his trash barrel like "Dirty Harry."


You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.


Nah, only the hillbilly-ish ones. They think the NRA is their government.


Remember the idea of "checks and balances"? Well, the NRA is the fourth
branch of government: 1) executive, 2) legislative, 3) judicial, and 4) NRA.



Doug Kanter March 15th 04 07:38 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim

at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets

inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and

tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat

traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Agreed. A HavAHart trap will do the trick. Cats don't deserve the antifreeze
routine. That's for dogs.



Doug Kanter March 15th 04 07:40 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb.

furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim

at
the cat.

Try again. This time practice and use .22 hollow points.


CCI Stingers in .22LR are a good choice too! :-

Butch Ammon


Problem with that scenario is when Han Solo shot the laser weapon in
the garbage dump in Star Wars.

Sheesh....I want the friggin cat, not my boat, the dock master, and
about 13 other innocent bystanders.


It's okay.... May the force be with you! LOL!!!

Actually, a Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons scope on it (or other small rifle

along
those lines) might freak people out at a marina. So, something more

subtle and
discrete is a better option. The humane traps are the best way to rid

yourself
of an unwanted critter. Or, be more daring and use a C02 pellet pistol!

Butch Ammon


Don't forget eye protection. And, check the deductible for your boat
insurance. You may end up paying for new windows out of your pocket.



Doug Kanter March 15th 04 07:41 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Gene Kearns wrote in message
...

Ah, one of the simple pleasures of living in the South. Reminds me of
the time the wife and I watched our ****ed-off neighbor, .357 in hand,
go after a bunch of cats raiding his trash barrel.

I don't think he got any of them, but damn, was it funny watching
those cats come zooming out of that barrel as if shot by a catapult
and the neighbor blasting away at his trash barrel like "Dirty Harry."


You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.
What do you do when the kids act up?
Put a little rock salt in the old 12 gauge and tell them to git runnin'?



Hey....there was a farmer in my neighborhood who did exactly that when he
caught kids stealing a few ears of corn. And this was in Long Island in the
mid 1960s. Not exactly Arkansas.



Doug Kanter March 15th 04 07:45 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
The first Southern statement to creep into a transplanted
Northerner's vocabulary is the adjective "big'ol" truck or
"big'ol" boy. Most Northerners begin their Southern-influenced
dialect this way. All of them are in denial about it


And don't forget "Haaaail....that there car's got itself a real strong
motor!"



Calif Bill March 15th 04 09:18 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

DSK wrote in message
.. .
Don White wrote:
You 'boys' & your guns. Bad enough they are so prevalent down

there...but
please keep them out of Canada.


Why? I been tole that them moose are pretty good eatin'

DSK



Very limited number of hunting licenses issued for moose in Nova Scotia.
Used to be around 1000 under a lottery system.
My theory still is...if they don't shoot at me...I don't shoot at them.



Actually moose kill a few people in Alaska, probably Canada also. They are
tall enough that if a car hits them, they slide across the hood and come in
the windshield, and they take out the motorist that hit them. Maybe 2 for 1
if there is a passenger.
Bill



Don White March 15th 04 09:32 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

Calif Bill wrote in message news:15p5c.22893$%
Actually moose kill a few people in Alaska, probably Canada also. They

are
tall enough that if a car hits them, they slide across the hood and come

in
the windshield, and they take out the motorist that hit them. Maybe 2 for

1
if there is a passenger.
Bill

That is a big problem in our sister province of Newfoundland. Not so much
here as the moose are usually
in remoter areas of Cape Breton.



Linda March 15th 04 10:42 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
You make me sick...hope karma comes right back at cha you heart peice
of Sh**


bajaman wrote:
The traps work surprisingly well. I have trapped approximately 20 cats in
the last 2 months using a live trap. I have several really nice cars that I
was tired of the damned feral ******* cats climbing on when I'd leave my
garages doors open. Not to mention the shredding of the garbage bags
awaiting collection.
Once you have them trapped, they are yours to do with what you will.
A word of advice, if you just haul them off somewhere, go AT LEAST 10 miles
away, and cross a couple of bodies of water if you can. Otherwise the
*******s will damned near beat you back home!

I've also broke out my old recurve bow and gone "hunting". Nice and silent,
and provides a relatively quick kill (though a stuck cat certainly YOWLS a
lot!). I'd avoid poisons and firearms in any sort of municipal area, too
much chance for things to go wrong.



wrote in message
...

Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets


inside

for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat


traps?




Calif Bill March 15th 04 10:45 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Calif Bill wrote in message

news:15p5c.22893$%
Actually moose kill a few people in Alaska, probably Canada also. They

are
tall enough that if a car hits them, they slide across the hood and come

in
the windshield, and they take out the motorist that hit them. Maybe 2

for
1
if there is a passenger.
Bill

That is a big problem in our sister province of Newfoundland. Not so much
here as the moose are usually
in remoter areas of Cape Breton.



Have a friend that lived in Anchorage, AK and he is the one that told me of
the problems. Here we just hit small deer and they ruin the front of the
vehicle.
Bill



Paul Schilter March 15th 04 10:49 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Don,
Yah, except for them deer that are out to commit suicide in front of
your car. Heck I know more people that have bagged deer with their vehicle
than during hunting. I don't hunt myself, but I still wish the hunters luck
with thinning out the herd.
Paul

"Don White" wrote in message
...

DSK wrote in message
.. .
Don White wrote:
You 'boys' & your guns. Bad enough they are so prevalent down

there...but
please keep them out of Canada.


Why? I been tole that them moose are pretty good eatin'

DSK



Very limited number of hunting licenses issued for moose in Nova Scotia.
Used to be around 1000 under a lottery system.
My theory still is...if they don't shoot at me...I don't shoot at them.





Wayne.B March 16th 04 12:02 AM

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:53:00 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

You'all good 'ole southern boys sho' do like to use them guns.
What do you do when the kids act up?
Put a little rock salt in the old 12 gauge and tell them to git runnin'?


===============================

You don't have to tell them.


Jim Woodard March 16th 04 12:30 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
My wife donates to the SPCA with instructions on the check NOT to be
used for cats......wonder if they follow those instructions.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim

at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets

inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and

tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat

traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Agreed. A HavAHart trap will do the trick. Cats don't deserve the antifreeze
routine. That's for dogs.


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Doug Kanter March 16th 04 05:38 AM

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I certainly hope they don't waste their time trying to segregate funds based
on each donor's prejudices. But, I don't care. There's no way to change
peoples' minds with regard to cats & dogs. The animals are quite capable of
subverting the minds of their owners to the point where they ignore the
damage and aggravation caused by the creatures. As we know from Darwin,
there's a place for such owners, as well as a place for gardeners like me
who make the pets vanish when appropriate. We are the lions of the suburbs,
so to speak.

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here.
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"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
My wife donates to the SPCA with instructions on the check NOT to be
used for cats......wonder if they follow those instructions.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb.

furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good

aim
at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still

gets
inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and

tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat
traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat over

to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Agreed. A HavAHart trap will do the trick. Cats don't deserve the

antifreeze
routine. That's for dogs.


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Doug Kanter March 16th 04 05:51 AM

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Geeze.... another gun-o-phobic.

Come on, Gene. You have to sympathize a little. You know guns are dangerous.
Why, just this evening, I came home from the range, took the magazine out of
my pistol, placed the two objects on the table, and went to wash up. When I
came back to the table, the gun had moved 6" closer to the magazine. It was
preparing to reload itself and cause an accident. I considered unlocking
another gun to shoot the first one with, but I figured that if the accident
happened just as I returned to the table, I would be be found with two guns
and labeled a gunman with an arsenal. Worse, I live alone, which would lead
neighbors to tell the press that "He lived alone, except for the 3 days a
week when his son came over with his skateboarder friends, and you know
about THAT kind of kid". Then, after they'd carted me off to the hospital
(after being shot by gun #1, which just "went off by itself"), the police
would find the supermarket receipt on the table, showing that I'd just
bought 4 boxes of baking soda, a gallon of vinegar and some houseplant
fertilizer. Everyone knows you can make foamy little volcano bombs with
baking soda and vinegar, so I'm obviously a terrorist. Not sure about the
Miracle-Gro, though.

Amazing to think that this whole thing would be caused by a gun which loaded
itself and "went off", even after this particular model passed a rigorous
drop test designed for new firearms by the state of Massachusetts.



Doug Kanter March 16th 04 05:54 AM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Personally, I don't shoot cats because I don't have problems with them, but
if they destroyed my vegetable garden, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. If you
read the fine print in your town code, you'll likely find old laws which
permit landowners to kill things that destroy food crops.

Just because you call an animal a cute pet doesn't mean it's not a serious
pain in the ass to someone else. I'll venture a guess that you've never come
face to face with a feral dog, or three of them at once.

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bajaman wrote:
The traps work surprisingly well. I have trapped approximately 20 cats

in
the last 2 months using a live trap. I have several really nice cars

that I
was tired of the damned feral ******* cats climbing on when I'd leave my
garages doors open. Not to mention the shredding of the garbage bags
awaiting collection.
Once you have them trapped, they are yours to do with what you will.
A word of advice, if you just haul them off somewhere, go AT LEAST 10

miles
away, and cross a couple of bodies of water if you can. Otherwise the
*******s will damned near beat you back home!

I've also broke out my old recurve bow and gone "hunting". Nice and

silent,
and provides a relatively quick kill (though a stuck cat certainly YOWLS

a
lot!). I'd avoid poisons and firearms in any sort of municipal area,

too
much chance for things to go wrong.



wrote in message
...

Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5 lb. furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a good aim

at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still gets


inside

for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells and

tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work? Rat


traps?






DSK March 16th 04 01:02 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Doug Kanter wrote:
... this particular model passed a rigorous
drop test designed for new firearms by the state of Massachusetts.



I'm glad you told me about this... I'm not going to buy any guns in
Massachusetts any more. I don't want to pay for a "new" gun after it's
been dropped.

DSK


Don White March 16th 04 01:37 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...
Personally, I don't shoot cats because I don't have problems with them,

but
if they destroyed my vegetable garden, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. If

you
read the fine print in your town code, you'll likely find old laws which
permit landowners to kill things that destroy food crops.



If you looked hard enough, you'd probably find an old law that allowed you
to pop someone who spit chawin' tobacca
on your floor. That defense probably wouldn't work today..........well
maybe in Texas & Florida.



Doug Kanter March 16th 04 02:15 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
:-) ROFL!

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Doug Kanter wrote:
... this particular model passed a rigorous
drop test designed for new firearms by the state of Massachusetts.



I'm glad you told me about this... I'm not going to buy any guns in
Massachusetts any more. I don't want to pay for a "new" gun after it's
been dropped.

DSK




Doug Kanter March 16th 04 02:22 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...
Personally, I don't shoot cats because I don't have problems with them,

but
if they destroyed my vegetable garden, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. If

you
read the fine print in your town code, you'll likely find old laws which
permit landowners to kill things that destroy food crops.



If you looked hard enough, you'd probably find an old law that allowed you
to pop someone who spit chawin' tobacca
on your floor. That defense probably wouldn't work today..........well
maybe in Texas & Florida.



Actually, the law about terminating animals is tested around here a few
times a year. It doesn't specify that the property has to be an
income-producing farm - just "food crops". My son's baseball coach was our
town justice, who clued me in to the law. He explained that it was almost
done away with in the early 1940s, but the advent of the victory garden
concept kept it on the books. He also explained that HOW one terminates an
animal is obviously crucial. If it's done with a firearm within town limits,
you may be judged without fault for killing the animal, but slammed with a
(justified) weapons violation. Further, the "terminator" needs to exhaust
every other possible solution, which usually means you have to prove that
you tried to get help from the animal control dept and negotiate with the
owner of the animal, usually a dog. A side benefit of the law is that it
gives towns a reason to replace dog catchers who are overly sympathetic with
dog owners who are perpetually irresponsible.



Capt Frank Hopkins March 16th 04 03:33 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

I hear that Doug,
Cats and dogs are not a real problem for me as I have a 6 foot privacy
fence around the property.

I am at war with the neighborhood squirrels. A couple of weeks ago the
pack decended like the Mongols to sack and pillage my strawberry and tomato
garden.

I found a wonderful product called Colibri .22 low velocity ammunition. It
is primer propelled, and very quiet. (sounds like someone stepping on a dry
branch) The round leaves at 375 fps. About the speed of a hi power pellet
gun.

Won't penetrate the wood fence either.

The squirrels hate it. It drops 'em in their tracks.

Since implementing this plan, I am actually getting to put some
strawberries on my morning cereal.
--
Capt. Frank

www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I certainly hope they don't waste their time trying to segregate funds

based
on each donor's prejudices. But, I don't care. There's no way to change
peoples' minds with regard to cats & dogs. The animals are quite capable

of
subverting the minds of their owners to the point where they ignore the
damage and aggravation caused by the creatures. As we know from Darwin,
there's a place for such owners, as well as a place for gardeners like

me
who make the pets vanish when appropriate. We are the lions of the

suburbs,
so to speak.

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"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
My wife donates to the SPCA with instructions on the check NOT to be
used for cats......wonder if they follow those instructions.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5

lb.
furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a

good
aim
at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc

drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT still

gets
inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells

and
tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con work?

Rat
traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat

over
to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by the
anti-freeze.



Agreed. A HavAHart trap will do the trick. Cats don't deserve the

antifreeze
routine. That's for dogs.


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Capt Frank Hopkins March 16th 04 03:48 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

OH GAWD Doug,

Don' ya know nutthin..It wernt gonna cause no accident... Its spring and
theys a gettin reddy to mate. Pretty soon, yous gonna have a buncha little
baby peashooters poppin off all over the gun cabinet. Better lay inna stock
of extra baby oil, and wipes. Ya knows how messy the first few months r.

grin
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Geeze.... another gun-o-phobic.


Come on, Gene. You have to sympathize a little. You know guns are

dangerous.
Why, just this evening, I came home from the range, took the magazine

out of
my pistol, placed the two objects on the table, and went to wash up.

When I
came back to the table, the gun had moved 6" closer to the magazine. It

was
preparing to reload itself and cause an accident. I considered unlocking
another gun to shoot the first one with, but I figured that if the

accident
happened just as I returned to the table, I would be be found with two

guns
and labeled a gunman with an arsenal. Worse, I live alone, which would

lead
neighbors to tell the press that "He lived alone, except for the 3 days

a
week when his son came over with his skateboarder friends, and you know
about THAT kind of kid". Then, after they'd carted me off to the

hospital
(after being shot by gun #1, which just "went off by itself"), the

police
would find the supermarket receipt on the table, showing that I'd just
bought 4 boxes of baking soda, a gallon of vinegar and some houseplant
fertilizer. Everyone knows you can make foamy little volcano bombs with
baking soda and vinegar, so I'm obviously a terrorist. Not sure about

the
Miracle-Gro, though.

Amazing to think that this whole thing would be caused by a gun which

loaded
itself and "went off", even after this particular model passed a

rigorous
drop test designed for new firearms by the state of Massachusetts.






Doug Kanter March 16th 04 05:08 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 
Interesting ammo. I wish I didn't have to live in a typical neighborhood
where that's dangerous to do. For now, I have to do creative things with
chicken wire and hardware cloth.

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.......
"Capt Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
hlink.net...

I hear that Doug,
Cats and dogs are not a real problem for me as I have a 6 foot privacy
fence around the property.

I am at war with the neighborhood squirrels. A couple of weeks ago the
pack decended like the Mongols to sack and pillage my strawberry and

tomato
garden.

I found a wonderful product called Colibri .22 low velocity ammunition.

It
is primer propelled, and very quiet. (sounds like someone stepping on a

dry
branch) The round leaves at 375 fps. About the speed of a hi power pellet
gun.

Won't penetrate the wood fence either.

The squirrels hate it. It drops 'em in their tracks.

Since implementing this plan, I am actually getting to put some
strawberries on my morning cereal.
--
Capt. Frank

www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I certainly hope they don't waste their time trying to segregate funds

based
on each donor's prejudices. But, I don't care. There's no way to

change
peoples' minds with regard to cats & dogs. The animals are quite

capable
of
subverting the minds of their owners to the point where they ignore

the
damage and aggravation caused by the creatures. As we know from

Darwin,
there's a place for such owners, as well as a place for gardeners like

me
who make the pets vanish when appropriate. We are the lions of the

suburbs,
so to speak.

--
Do not respond to my Hotmail address. It's never checked. Post all

responses
here.
......


"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
My wife donates to the SPCA with instructions on the check NOT to be
used for cats......wonder if they follow those instructions.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
Here we go again. A couple years ago some low-lifes sent the 5

lb.
furry
vermin to my clam boat to use it as a litter box. Never got a

good
aim
at
the cat.

Now, I have a trawler with Polish storm windows (AKA rigid pvc

drop
curtains) around the stern area, and a neighbor's DAMN CAT

still
gets
inside
for the same purpose.

I need your advice. What type of anitfreeze is it that smells

and
tastes
good to animals, but offs 'em in a few hours? Does De-Con

work?
Rat
traps?


I'd contact your local SPCA, borrow a live trap and turn the cat

over
to
them.
You may cruely kill an innocent cat that could be attracted by

the
anti-freeze.



Agreed. A HavAHart trap will do the trick. Cats don't deserve the

antifreeze
routine. That's for dogs.

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Don White March 16th 04 05:13 PM

Cats! DAMN CATS again!
 

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...
Actually, the law about terminating animals is tested around here a few
times a year. It doesn't specify that the property has to be an
income-producing farm - just "food crops". My son's baseball coach was our
town justice, who clued me in to the law. He explained that it was almost
done away with in the early 1940s, but the advent of the victory garden
concept kept it on the books. He also explained that HOW one terminates an
animal is obviously crucial. If it's done with a firearm within town

limits,
you may be judged without fault for killing the animal, but slammed with a
(justified) weapons violation. Further, the "terminator" needs to exhaust
every other possible solution, which usually means you have to prove that
you tried to get help from the animal control dept and negotiate with the
owner of the animal, usually a dog. A side benefit of the law is that it
gives towns a reason to replace dog catchers who are overly sympathetic

with
dog owners who are perpetually irresponsible.


Wow! Up here it's against the law to discharge firearms within a certain
distance of a dwelling and certainly within town/city limits. You 'mericans
need to get rid of that NRA and civilize your firearm laws.




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