"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 May 2005 21:19:16 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

If they are, then it's very light stainless. I could never get mine
to run right with heavier stainless.



I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I used to - then I discovered Ande florescent blue - that makes some
great leaders. I'm so sold on the stuff, I use it for all my leaders
in all weights.


Is it as tough and wear-resistant as fluoro?

On Fri, 6 May 2005 08:21:28 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 May 2005 21:19:16 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

If they are, then it's very light stainless. I could never get mine
to run right with heavier stainless.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I used to - then I discovered Ande florescent blue - that makes some
great leaders. I'm so sold on the stuff, I use it for all my leaders
in all weights.

Is it as tough and wear-resistant as fluoro?

I think so.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 06 May 2005 00:24:23 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the ring on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of them out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

Later,

Tom

Some folks will put a hanging weight (10 oz or so) about six feet in front of
the lure. This allows plenty of lure action, but restricts the back and forth
motion.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:15:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:27:53 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I sometimes use nylon-coated stainless leaders, but only when there are
large blues in the water. They'll snap right through the light
flourocarbon I use on my light tackle.

Even with light tackle, I use heavy leaders - usually twice the weight
I'm throwing at a minimum.

Later,

Tom

For trolling I use 50lb braided line and 60lb monofilament leaders. If I had the
big bucks I'd use the fluorocarbon leaders, but no rockfish is worth that kind
of money!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:15:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:27:53 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the
ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of
them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so
something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I sometimes use nylon-coated stainless leaders, but only when there are
large blues in the water. They'll snap right through the light
flourocarbon I use on my light tackle.

Even with light tackle, I use heavy leaders - usually twice the weight
I'm throwing at a minimum.

Later,

Tom

For trolling I use 50lb braided line and 60lb monofilament leaders. If I
had the
big bucks I'd use the fluorocarbon leaders, but no rockfish is worth that
kind
of money!

Triple Fish makes an affordable fluorocarbon. With fluoro, I never lose a
fish due to a cut leader.

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:45 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:15:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:27:53 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the
ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of
them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so
something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I sometimes use nylon-coated stainless leaders, but only when there are
large blues in the water. They'll snap right through the light
flourocarbon I use on my light tackle.

Even with light tackle, I use heavy leaders - usually twice the weight
I'm throwing at a minimum.

Later,

Tom

For trolling I use 50lb braided line and 60lb monofilament leaders. If I
had the
big bucks I'd use the fluorocarbon leaders, but no rockfish is worth that
kind
of money!

Triple Fish makes an affordable fluorocarbon. With fluoro, I never lose a
fish due to a cut leader.


The Chesapeake has a mud, sand, grass, etc. for a bottom. In some places there
are shells, but no coral outcroppings or other sharp stuff that really mangles
line. Cut leaders isn't a problem I've ever come across fishing in the bay. A
bluefish will cut a leader, but mostly we'll use a nylon coated wire leader when
fishing for them.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 07 May 2005 08:32:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:45 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:15:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:27:53 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the
ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of
them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so
something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I sometimes use nylon-coated stainless leaders, but only when there are
large blues in the water. They'll snap right through the light
flourocarbon I use on my light tackle.

Even with light tackle, I use heavy leaders - usually twice the weight
I'm throwing at a minimum.

For trolling I use 50lb braided line and 60lb monofilament leaders. If I
had the
big bucks I'd use the fluorocarbon leaders, but no rockfish is worth that
kind
of money!

Triple Fish makes an affordable fluorocarbon. With fluoro, I never lose a
fish due to a cut leader.

The Chesapeake has a mud, sand, grass, etc. for a bottom. In some places there
are shells, but no coral outcroppings or other sharp stuff that really mangles
line. Cut leaders isn't a problem I've ever come across fishing in the bay. A
bluefish will cut a leader, but mostly we'll use a nylon coated wire leader when
fishing for them.

I've only been cut off once in the past few years using 50 lb Ande
blue florescent. And that fish hit high on the line, so it wasn't a
busted leader.

I'm telling 'ya - I love that stuff. :)

Later,

Tom

On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:51:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 08:32:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:45 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:15:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:27:53 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~


I used to think the same thing, but you need to tune them (bend the
ring
on
top) if they're not tracking straight. Also, when you have two of
them
out,
put the shallower Stretch 18 or 25 out to about 150-200 feet, and the
deeper
running Stretch 30 out to 75-100 feet.

I have one that I couldn't get to run true no matter what I did.

Then I figured it out.

Steel leaders. For some reason, the things don't like to run on steel
leaders. Why that should make a difference I don't know.

I know a lot of guys who use stainless leaders with Mann's, so
something
sound "fishy" with that explanation.

I use 60-85lb fluoro.

I sometimes use nylon-coated stainless leaders, but only when there are
large blues in the water. They'll snap right through the light
flourocarbon I use on my light tackle.

Even with light tackle, I use heavy leaders - usually twice the weight
I'm throwing at a minimum.

For trolling I use 50lb braided line and 60lb monofilament leaders. If I
had the
big bucks I'd use the fluorocarbon leaders, but no rockfish is worth that
kind
of money!

Triple Fish makes an affordable fluorocarbon. With fluoro, I never lose a
fish due to a cut leader.

The Chesapeake has a mud, sand, grass, etc. for a bottom. In some places there
are shells, but no coral outcroppings or other sharp stuff that really mangles
line. Cut leaders isn't a problem I've ever come across fishing in the bay. A
bluefish will cut a leader, but mostly we'll use a nylon coated wire leader when
fishing for them.

I've only been cut off once in the past few years using 50 lb Ande
blue florescent. And that fish hit high on the line, so it wasn't a
busted leader.

I'm telling 'ya - I love that stuff. :)

Later,

Tom

I'm using 60lb Ande, but I don't know if it's blue flourescent. I'll check next
time I'm on the boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Thu, 05 May 2005 16:40:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Got a late start this morning 'cause dummy me forgot to call the marina and have
the boat put in the water. Oh well.

Thats why I leave all my boats in the water year round. If you have
the money I do, you can do that.