On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim in large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly herbivores, but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very adaptable and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within and between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden population has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.*** Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish such as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common loon, herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other
species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant
fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim in
large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's
surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly herbivores,
but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very adaptable
and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended
organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish
species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within and
between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is
due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden population
has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.***
Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish such
as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common loon,
herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.

Amazing! It's like....if the filter on your aquarium dies when you're on
vacation!

On Thu, 05 May 2005 00:12:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other
species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant
fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim in
large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's
surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly herbivores,
but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very adaptable
and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended
organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish
species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within and
between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is
due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden population
has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.***
Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish such
as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common loon,
herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.

Amazing! It's like....if the filter on your aquarium dies when you're on
vacation!

Good analogy. The bay's dead spots are no longer 'spots'.

http://www.cbf.org/site/PageServer?p...facts_deadzone


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 05 May 2005 00:12:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
m...


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other
species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant
fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim in
large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's
surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly
herbivores,
but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very adaptable
and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended
organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish
species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within and
between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is
due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter
feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a
million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden
population
has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.***
Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish
such
as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common loon,
herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.

Amazing! It's like....if the filter on your aquarium dies when you're on
vacation!

Good analogy. The bay's dead spots are no longer 'spots'.

http://www.cbf.org/site/PageServer?p...facts_deadzone


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Come on down to NO and the wetlands south. Plenty of fish, hunting, decent
weather, occasional killer hurricane to thin out the bad bloods. Good eats,
too.

On Thu, 5 May 2005 07:31:45 -0400, "SoFarrell" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 05 May 2005 00:12:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
om...


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other
species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant
fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim in
large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's
surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly
herbivores,
but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very adaptable
and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended
organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish
species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within and
between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is
due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter
feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a
million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden
population
has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.***
Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish
such
as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common loon,
herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.

Amazing! It's like....if the filter on your aquarium dies when you're on
vacation!

Good analogy. The bay's dead spots are no longer 'spots'.

http://www.cbf.org/site/PageServer?p...facts_deadzone


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Come on down to NO and the wetlands south. Plenty of fish, hunting, decent
weather, occasional killer hurricane to thin out the bad bloods. Good eats,
too.



Where's NO? If I didn't have kids and grandkids (five, now!) in the area I'd
move in a heartbeat. But it would probably be to the Solomons Island, MD, area.
Fishing is pretty good down there.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NO is New Orleans. Great city for food, it is a Sportsman Paradise, but the
state has some of the worst pollution in the US.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 May 2005 07:31:45 -0400, "SoFarrell" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 05 May 2005 00:12:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:21:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
news:bn5i719r6ugdc4uvau8ht4v6mirhg4j7no@4ax. com...


Over fishing for menhaden is affecting the water quality and other
species
of
fish in the bay. The government will probably put more restrictions
on
sport
fishermen and say they've done a good job.

How does it affect water quality?


From: http://www.chesbay.org/forageFish/menhaden.asp

"Atlantic menhaden are the most important and one of the most abundant
fish
species in the Chesapeake Bay. During summer months, these fish swim
in
large
schools and their silvery bodies can often be seen near the water's
surface.
Juveniles primarily feed on zooplankton, but adults are mainly
herbivores,
but
retain the ability to feed on zooplankton. The adults are very
adaptable
and
will feed on several species of phytoplankton, as well as suspended
organic
plant detritus. Atlantic menhaden are an ecologically critical fish
species.
They consume and redistribute a significant amount of energy within
and
between
the Chesapeake Bay and other estuaries, and the coastal ocean. This is
due, in
part, to their tremendous numbers, individual growth rate, filter
feeding
capacity, and seasonal movements. An adult fish can filter up to a
million
gallons of water every 180 days. ***A healthy Atlantic menhaden
population
has
the potential to consume up to 25% of the Bay's nitrogen in 1-year.***
Menhaden
are also an extremely important prey species for many predatory fish
such
as
striped bass, bluefish, weakfish, and spanish mackerel. Because or
their
schooling behavior, they are also a favorite target for the common
loon,
herons,
egrets, ospreys, and eagles.

Amazing! It's like....if the filter on your aquarium dies when you're on
vacation!

Good analogy. The bay's dead spots are no longer 'spots'.

http://www.cbf.org/site/PageServer?p...facts_deadzone


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Come on down to NO and the wetlands south. Plenty of fish, hunting, decent
weather, occasional killer hurricane to thin out the bad bloods. Good
eats,
too.



Where's NO? If I didn't have kids and grandkids (five, now!) in the area
I'd
move in a heartbeat. But it would probably be to the Solomons Island, MD,
area.
Fishing is pretty good down there.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote
snipped

John, Have you taken into account that Menhaden are used primarily as a
fertilizer?
Damn there goes that nitrogen theory!

The Chesapeake Bay Foundatoin is nothing more than a wannabee greenpeace
org, and has been since its inceptionincepcion.

My advice
Go to Reedsville, Sign on to a Menhaden processor, and learn about
fishing.

Heck if nothing else you'll get a free tour on an old Minesweeper.
Tell Joe Humphrey or his son, UD sent you.





http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack

On Wed, 4 May 2005 20:58:51 -0700, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:

John H wrote
snipped

John, Have you taken into account that Menhaden are used primarily as a
fertilizer?
Damn there goes that nitrogen theory!

The Chesapeake Bay Foundatoin is nothing more than a wannabee greenpeace
org, and has been since its inceptionincepcion.

My advice
Go to Reedsville, Sign on to a Menhaden processor, and learn about
fishing.

Heck if nothing else you'll get a free tour on an old Minesweeper.
Tell Joe Humphrey or his son, UD sent you.





http://community.webtv.net/capuglyda...inUglyDansJack

You're right, UD, the Chesapeake is as pristine as it ever was. All those bad
stories are just that.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...


You're right, UD, the Chesapeake is as pristine as it ever was. All those
bad
stories are just that.
--
John H

He's right, John. All negative reports about the environment come from
left-wing wackos who were mistakenly given degrees from dubious colleges.
Like Cornell. :-)

On Thu, 05 May 2005 13:37:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .


You're right, UD, the Chesapeake is as pristine as it ever was. All those
bad
stories are just that.
--
John H

He's right, John. All negative reports about the environment come from
left-wing wackos who were mistakenly given degrees from dubious colleges.
Like Cornell. :-)


He's right, you're right, and I'm right. We *really* only need one party!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."