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"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Perhaps. But only if the ACLU continues to dismantle the President's authority to detain illegal combatants in this war on terror. You mean, the government's new hobby, detaining people like these? And, don't hand us any bull**** about the source, as you usually do. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr20.html Muslims Detained at Border Sue U.S. Homeland Security By Michelle Garcia Special to The Washington Post Thursday, April 21, 2005; Page A08 NEW YORK, April 20 -- American Muslims detained at the border as they returned from a religious conference in Toronto sued the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday alleging they were targets of ethnic and religious profiling. The five Muslims, all U.S. citizens, say customs officials detained dozens of others from their conference in December, subjecting them to interrogations, fingerprinting and photographing. I have no problem with the "source" of this story...nor with actions of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Those 5 folks who were detained are certainly more apt to commit terrorist attacks than an 80 year old grandmother. It's about time they started racial profiling...especially for people who travel to "conferences" that have suspected ties to terrorism. Besides...questioning, fingerprinting, and photographing hardly qualify as "detainment". So what's the big deal? But professor, you objected to the exact same type of policies when practiced by the USSR. Sorry. Can't have it both ways. No I didn't. I'm all for a National Photo ID card and fingerprint and/or retinal scans at the airport and border crossings. Nope. You're lying. When you were younger, you went along with the anti-communist party line, agreed with Reagan 100% about his "evil empire" views. The totalitarian tactics were the bane of your existence. You only claim to approve of them now because the only way you can tread water in a debate is to bait your opponents. |
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Why don't you tell us, you live in a society that is closer to communism? 1930's Germany was closer to communism than America under Bush! I knew that a good communist, like you Don, would know a lot about it. What's a communist, Bertie-girl? |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Perhaps. But only if the ACLU continues to dismantle the President's authority to detain illegal combatants in this war on terror. You mean, the government's new hobby, detaining people like these? And, don't hand us any bull**** about the source, as you usually do. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr20.html Muslims Detained at Border Sue U.S. Homeland Security By Michelle Garcia Special to The Washington Post Thursday, April 21, 2005; Page A08 NEW YORK, April 20 -- American Muslims detained at the border as they returned from a religious conference in Toronto sued the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday alleging they were targets of ethnic and religious profiling. The five Muslims, all U.S. citizens, say customs officials detained dozens of others from their conference in December, subjecting them to interrogations, fingerprinting and photographing. I have no problem with the "source" of this story...nor with actions of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Those 5 folks who were detained are certainly more apt to commit terrorist attacks than an 80 year old grandmother. It's about time they started racial profiling...especially for people who travel to "conferences" that have suspected ties to terrorism. Besides...questioning, fingerprinting, and photographing hardly qualify as "detainment". So what's the big deal? But professor, you objected to the exact same type of policies when practiced by the USSR. Sorry. Can't have it both ways. No I didn't. I'm all for a National Photo ID card and fingerprint and/or retinal scans at the airport and border crossings. Nope. You're lying. When you were younger, you went along with the anti-communist party line, agreed with Reagan 100% about his "evil empire" views. The totalitarian tactics were the bane of your existence. You only claim to approve of them now because the only way you can tread water in a debate is to bait your opponents. WTF are you talking about? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Why don't you tell us, you live in a society that is closer to communism? 1930's Germany was closer to communism than America under Bush! I knew that a good communist, like you Don, would know a lot about it. What's a communist, Bertie-girl? From: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...nist&x=27&y=15 Main Entry: com·mu·nist Pronunciation: 'käm-y&-nist Function: noun 1 : an adherent or advocate of communism 2 capitalized : COMMUNARD 3 a capitalized : a member of a Communist party or movement b often capitalized : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement 4 often capitalized : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities - communist adjective, often capitalized - com·mu·nis·tic /"käm-y&-'nis-tik/ adjective, often capitalized - com·mu·nis·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ I'll use #4. |
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Why don't you tell us, you live in a society that is closer to communism? 1930's Germany was closer to communism than America under Bush! I knew that a good communist, like you Don, would know a lot about it. As opposed to Bert, who joined the Marine Corps to fight communism, but knew nothing about it. Interestingly, both Bert and our latest anonymous remailer poster curse about the same. Anyone else notice? You are too funny. Are you going to go fishing in river that your 36' lobsta boat can't navigate this weekend? When stripper trophy season is in full swing you are fishing for Blue Gill in a fresh water river hundreds of miles from the bay? |
"A.Melon" wrote in message news:24a8219db826a193d52ce5d19805ad12@melontraffic kers.com... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 03 May 2005, bb wrote: Snipped Do you really squeal like a pig when you get a big dick in your ass? I heard you whine and moan and yell "more, more, deeper". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.58ckt iQA/AwUBQng6ySkklmLVsf/xEQLfjACgyWx6xn0MTXvx9T59o39W3/4nntYAoIrU aofsaezB1wX3aa9p6EpBKR0c =Gm3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Would you please stop dumping your garbage in here? You seem to post here with a 100 different names and most of your messages are exactly the same. I don't have time to set up all sorts of filters. Other than annoying everyone do you have a reason for doin what you are doing? I look in here a couple of times a week for interesting fishing or boat-fishing stuff, and what I find are hundreds of meaningless posts from you full of cuss words and insults. Can't you stop this bad behavior? |
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Why don't you tell us, you live in a society that is closer to communism? 1930's Germany was closer to communism than America under Bush! I knew that a good communist, like you Don, would know a lot about it. What's a communist, Bertie-girl? From: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...nist&x=27&y=15 Main Entry: com·mu·nist Pronunciation: 'käm-y&-nist Function: noun 1 : an adherent or advocate of communism 2 capitalized : COMMUNARD 3 a capitalized : a member of a Communist party or movement b often capitalized : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement 4 often capitalized : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities - communist adjective, often capitalized - com·mu·nis·tic /"käm-y&-'nis-tik/ adjective, often capitalized - com·mu·nis·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ I'll use #4. If you would use #4, then you would be an idiot, something which needed to confirmation around here. |
"NOYB" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Perhaps. But only if the ACLU continues to dismantle the President's authority to detain illegal combatants in this war on terror. You mean, the government's new hobby, detaining people like these? And, don't hand us any bull**** about the source, as you usually do. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr20.html Muslims Detained at Border Sue U.S. Homeland Security By Michelle Garcia Special to The Washington Post Thursday, April 21, 2005; Page A08 NEW YORK, April 20 -- American Muslims detained at the border as they returned from a religious conference in Toronto sued the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday alleging they were targets of ethnic and religious profiling. The five Muslims, all U.S. citizens, say customs officials detained dozens of others from their conference in December, subjecting them to interrogations, fingerprinting and photographing. I have no problem with the "source" of this story...nor with actions of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Those 5 folks who were detained are certainly more apt to commit terrorist attacks than an 80 year old grandmother. It's about time they started racial profiling...especially for people who travel to "conferences" that have suspected ties to terrorism. Besides...questioning, fingerprinting, and photographing hardly qualify as "detainment". So what's the big deal? But professor, you objected to the exact same type of policies when practiced by the USSR. Sorry. Can't have it both ways. No I didn't. I'm all for a National Photo ID card and fingerprint and/or retinal scans at the airport and border crossings. Nope. You're lying. When you were younger, you went along with the anti-communist party line, agreed with Reagan 100% about his "evil empire" views. The totalitarian tactics were the bane of your existence. You only claim to approve of them now because the only way you can tread water in a debate is to bait your opponents. WTF are you talking about? I'll simplify this. You say you believe in things like ID cards, etc., and that you were OK with similar obscenities when practiced in the USSR and its Eastern European satellite countries. You're lying to yourself when you make that statement. Why? Because you haven't thoroughly thought out all the ramifications of these practices, many of which are the reason so many fled from those countries. You will now say that people left those countries because they wanted to live in a free enterprise system, but that's hardly the whole story and you know it. So, think about this: You're anchored somewhere quiet on your boat, just you and the girlfriend, or maybe even your wife. You're about to administer a beef injection down in the cabin when a boat pulls up and announces on its loudspeaker "Come out of the cabin with your ID cards. You have 30 seconds." You can't get dressed quick enough, so you are boarded, and both of you are dragged, half naked, out of the cabin. The cabin is tossed by the "authorities" you say you believe in. Meanwhile, your ID card is in your pocket, but they toss the entire cabin anyway. They search your girlfriend's purse and find she's carrying a handgun. They see her permit. In Florida, you are not required to notify an officer that you're carrying, but these guys are Feds, so because they think their **** don't stink, they believe the law applies only to state or local cops. They tell your girlfriend that because she forgot to inform them of the gun, they're confiscating it, and her too. "The president's gonna be down this way for a fund raiser next week. What did you have in mind with the gun, lady?" This is potentially what you are agreeing with. And if you think there aren't enough antisocial types who'd gladly sign up, put on a uniform, and do things like this to innocent citizens under the guise of "national security", think again. You've already seen it done. |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Perhaps. But only if the ACLU continues to dismantle the President's authority to detain illegal combatants in this war on terror. You mean, the government's new hobby, detaining people like these? And, don't hand us any bull**** about the source, as you usually do. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr20.html Muslims Detained at Border Sue U.S. Homeland Security By Michelle Garcia Special to The Washington Post Thursday, April 21, 2005; Page A08 NEW YORK, April 20 -- American Muslims detained at the border as they returned from a religious conference in Toronto sued the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday alleging they were targets of ethnic and religious profiling. The five Muslims, all U.S. citizens, say customs officials detained dozens of others from their conference in December, subjecting them to interrogations, fingerprinting and photographing. I have no problem with the "source" of this story...nor with actions of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Those 5 folks who were detained are certainly more apt to commit terrorist attacks than an 80 year old grandmother. It's about time they started racial profiling...especially for people who travel to "conferences" that have suspected ties to terrorism. Besides...questioning, fingerprinting, and photographing hardly qualify as "detainment". So what's the big deal? But professor, you objected to the exact same type of policies when practiced by the USSR. Sorry. Can't have it both ways. No I didn't. I'm all for a National Photo ID card and fingerprint and/or retinal scans at the airport and border crossings. Nope. You're lying. When you were younger, you went along with the anti-communist party line, agreed with Reagan 100% about his "evil empire" views. The totalitarian tactics were the bane of your existence. You only claim to approve of them now because the only way you can tread water in a debate is to bait your opponents. WTF are you talking about? I'll simplify this. You say you believe in things like ID cards, etc., and that you were OK with similar obscenities when practiced in the USSR and its Eastern European satellite countries. You're lying to yourself when you make that statement. Why? Because you haven't thoroughly thought out all the ramifications of these practices, many of which are the reason so many fled from those countries. You will now say that people left those countries because they wanted to live in a free enterprise system, but that's hardly the whole story and you know it. So, think about this: You're anchored somewhere quiet on your boat, just you and the girlfriend, or maybe even your wife. You're about to administer a beef injection down in the cabin when a boat pulls up and announces on its loudspeaker "Come out of the cabin with your ID cards. You have 30 seconds." You can't get dressed quick enough, so you are boarded, and both of you are dragged, half naked, out of the cabin. The cabin is tossed by the "authorities" you say you believe in. Meanwhile, your ID card is in your pocket, but they toss the entire cabin anyway. They search your girlfriend's purse and find she's carrying a handgun. They see her permit. In Florida, you are not required to notify an officer that you're carrying, but these guys are Feds, so because they think their **** don't stink, they believe the law applies only to state or local cops. They tell your girlfriend that because she forgot to inform them of the gun, they're confiscating it, and her too. "The president's gonna be down this way for a fund raiser next week. What did you have in mind with the gun, lady?" This is potentially what you are agreeing with. And if you think there aren't enough antisocial types who'd gladly sign up, put on a uniform, and do things like this to innocent citizens under the guise of "national security", think again. You've already seen it done. The Feds have had this power on the waterways for some time now. It has nothing to do with ID cards. |
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message . earthlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message l.earthlink.net... Perhaps. But only if the ACLU continues to dismantle the President's authority to detain illegal combatants in this war on terror. You mean, the government's new hobby, detaining people like these? And, don't hand us any bull**** about the source, as you usually do. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr20.html Muslims Detained at Border Sue U.S. Homeland Security By Michelle Garcia Special to The Washington Post Thursday, April 21, 2005; Page A08 NEW YORK, April 20 -- American Muslims detained at the border as they returned from a religious conference in Toronto sued the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday alleging they were targets of ethnic and religious profiling. The five Muslims, all U.S. citizens, say customs officials detained dozens of others from their conference in December, subjecting them to interrogations, fingerprinting and photographing. I have no problem with the "source" of this story...nor with actions of the Dept. of Homeland Security. Those 5 folks who were detained are certainly more apt to commit terrorist attacks than an 80 year old grandmother. It's about time they started racial profiling...especially for people who travel to "conferences" that have suspected ties to terrorism. Besides...questioning, fingerprinting, and photographing hardly qualify as "detainment". So what's the big deal? But professor, you objected to the exact same type of policies when practiced by the USSR. Sorry. Can't have it both ways. No I didn't. I'm all for a National Photo ID card and fingerprint and/or retinal scans at the airport and border crossings. Nope. You're lying. When you were younger, you went along with the anti-communist party line, agreed with Reagan 100% about his "evil empire" views. The totalitarian tactics were the bane of your existence. You only claim to approve of them now because the only way you can tread water in a debate is to bait your opponents. WTF are you talking about? I'll simplify this. You say you believe in things like ID cards, etc., and that you were OK with similar obscenities when practiced in the USSR and its Eastern European satellite countries. You're lying to yourself when you make that statement. Why? Because you haven't thoroughly thought out all the ramifications of these practices, many of which are the reason so many fled from those countries. You will now say that people left those countries because they wanted to live in a free enterprise system, but that's hardly the whole story and you know it. So, think about this: You're anchored somewhere quiet on your boat, just you and the girlfriend, or maybe even your wife. You're about to administer a beef injection down in the cabin when a boat pulls up and announces on its loudspeaker "Come out of the cabin with your ID cards. You have 30 seconds." You can't get dressed quick enough, so you are boarded, and both of you are dragged, half naked, out of the cabin. The cabin is tossed by the "authorities" you say you believe in. Meanwhile, your ID card is in your pocket, but they toss the entire cabin anyway. They search your girlfriend's purse and find she's carrying a handgun. They see her permit. In Florida, you are not required to notify an officer that you're carrying, but these guys are Feds, so because they think their **** don't stink, they believe the law applies only to state or local cops. They tell your girlfriend that because she forgot to inform them of the gun, they're confiscating it, and her too. "The president's gonna be down this way for a fund raiser next week. What did you have in mind with the gun, lady?" This is potentially what you are agreeing with. And if you think there aren't enough antisocial types who'd gladly sign up, put on a uniform, and do things like this to innocent citizens under the guise of "national security", think again. You've already seen it done. It's far worse than your scenario, Doug. If there is a federal ID card, and you are required to show it for various reasons, there also will be various nefarious reasons why the authorities will take the card from you, and you'll be unable to travel or to do any of the other things that require the card. The legislation can be written to avoid such a thing from happening. It's an *IDENTIFICATION* card, for crying out loud. It makes processing the bad guys a whole lot easier. |
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