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Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 wrote in message oups.com... More than you ever wanted to know about demographics. Got to his site and enter a city. Larger cities can be examined by zip code: Examples: http://www.city-data.com/city/Avon-Lake-Ohio.html http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html |
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Dr. Dr. K. Grear Apr 29, 3:28 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.boats From: "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime - Find messages by this author Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:28:38 -0400 Local: Fri,Apr 29 2005 3:28 pm Subject: Are you in the top 150? Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. ******** You have to read between the lines. There aren't any buildable S/F lots (or very few) left inside the city limits. I'll bet that 899 or more of the 914 SF "buildings" they show in 2003 were condos. If you were looking at free standing, single family homes you would see very few built recently. Seattle values are much higher than the list shows for most neighborhoods. A serious "fixer-upper" went for over $500k on the hill where we live, and the buyer was glad to get it. I doubt you'd find anything in the worst imaginable neighborhood or in any condition for less than $200k. According to a recent article in the local paper, it isn't uncommon for current sellers to have their asking prices bid *up* $60-70k by competing buyers. Frankly it's nuts. Why should my house be valued today at about 4 times what I paid for it in the early 90's? I've been bullish on real estate my entire life, but I think some of the folks just getting on the merry go round for the first time will be in for a rude awakening......hope not, but it could easily be. Reminds me of the stock market of just a few years ago, no price is too high because there's a "bigger fool" coming down the road. I'd be happy to see current prices cool off a bit and stabilize. |
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"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact your zip is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact that your zip code is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) edit |
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JimH wrote: Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact your zip is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) It does in HIS eyes. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message news  "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message news "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. |
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