( OT ) Barry Goldwater on God and Politics
 

"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious
beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than
Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme
being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's
behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today:
I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their
moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' "

George Orwell wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, "Jim," wrote:

Do you pull this stuff out of your ass? Do you like ruining this group? Did
you forget to take your medication?

To sum it up, you are an asshole.


See

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes...25698100716fcc

What part of the quote do you not agree with?

Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


"Jim," wrote in message
...
"However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious
beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than
Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme
being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's
behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are
growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with
wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following
their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups
on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a
loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the
political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if
I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.'
Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to
claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even
more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every
religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my
vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today:
I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their
moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' "

Me Skippy wrote:

Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse
you're a propagandist and lier)

I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and pasting why
don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh wait, you don't have
any.




"Jim," wrote in message
...
Me Skippy wrote:

Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and
paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse you're
a propagandist and lier)

Harry you keep repeating this lie. Whose ID have I stole? Whose family
member's ID have I stole?


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim, wrote:
Me Skippy wrote:

Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and
paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse you're
a propagandist and liar)



"Smithers," aka "Me Skippy," is only "creative" when coming up with
another of 30+ identities here, or in stealing the ID of someone who posts
here or a family member of someone who posts here. "Skippy" indeed.

Ever noticed that these right-wing turds hardly ever post anything about
their personal lives, but, instead, spend most of their time here taking
cheap shots at others?

What has "Smithers" really revealed about himself?

Nothing. Other than a penchant to "play" other posters here.

Me Skippy wrote:
I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and pasting why
don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh wait, you don't have
any.




"Jim," wrote in message
...

Me Skippy wrote:


Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and
paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse you're
a propagandist and lier)



Well Skippy -- I sometimes learn from the wise words of others.
Goldwater was one of a kind. A straightforward and honest politician

Jimcomma,

Goldwater was wise and a straightforward and honest politician, but you
didn't learn anything from him. Most of the time you don't even realize
what your are cut and pasting. I love it when the cut and paste article you
include contradict your subject heading.

You have never posted an original thought, but sometime it is better to
understand your limitations, so for you, it might be best if you just cut
and pasted articles you think support your position.

I am glad there are some intelligent liberals in the real world, but you are
not one of them.



"Jim," wrote in message
...
Me Skippy wrote:
I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and pasting
why don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh wait, you
don't have any.




"Jim," wrote in message
...

Me Skippy wrote:


Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't write
anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut and
paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse you're
a propagandist and lier)



Well Skippy -- I sometimes learn from the wise words of others. Goldwater
was one of a kind. A straightforward and honest politician

Harry.Krause wrote:

Jim, wrote:

Me Skippy wrote:

I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and
pasting why don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh
wait, you don't have any.




"Jim," wrote in message
...

Me Skippy wrote:


Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't
write anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice
cut and paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse
you're a propagandist and lier)





Well Skippy -- I sometimes learn from the wise words of others.
Goldwater was one of a kind. A straightforward and honest politician




If you lie down with a pig like Smithers, Jim, you will get up smelling
like a pig.

There's an old saying "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty,
but the pig enjoys it!"

"Me Skippy" wrote in message
...
I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and pasting
why don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh wait, you
don't have any.

Since this discussion is pointless, and all over the place, I may as well
add that you have no grammatical skills. You can obtain a GED for free in
some cities. Awls you hafta dew is lurn the stuff.

"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Me Skippy" wrote in message
...

I am neither a propagandist or a lier (whatever the hell that is).

As usually, you missed the point completely. Instead of cut and pasting
why don't you write some of your own words and thoughts, oh wait, you
don't have any.


Since this discussion is pointless, and all over the place, I may as well
add that you have no grammatical skills. You can obtain a GED for free in
some cities. Awls you hafta dew is lurn the stuff.




Now, now, now, Doug. It isn't nice to stomp on the Smithers.

I think someone did that a long time ago. At birth.

"Freddy" wrote in message
...
You're a fuktard!


What is a "fuktard"? Is it similar to a "Futtock"? This is a boating
newsgroup, isn't it?

Jim

Damn, I missed Harry's comment wanting to know personal information about
myself. I am glad he would like to know more about me.

I graduated from Yale, went to Harvard for my MBA and worked on Wall Street
for 10 yrs. In 1982I was asked by the Reagan Administration to sit on a
special commission, but turned it down. I finally accepted the job after I
received a personal phone call from Ronnie. Ronnie told me he needed my
services to turn around the economy. Since then I have alternated between
the private sector and working for the government (including a 13 month
stint with the Clinton administration). I have always taken a pay cut when
I work in Washington, but it is worth it to help our country.

Harry, if you want to know any more personal information, just let me know.




"Freddy" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, "Harry.Krause" wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Me Skippy wrote:

Jim,,
Great essay you wrote concerning this issue. Oh wait, you didn't
write anything, you just did a quick cut and paste. Oh well, nice cut
and paste.

If you don't have the ability to think, a quick cut and paste will do.


Kind of hard to be creative when posting a quote (unless of coarse
you're a propagandist and liar)



"Smithers," aka "Me Skippy," is only "creative" when coming up with
another of 30+ identities here, or in stealing the ID of someone who
posts here or a family member of someone who posts here. "Skippy" indeed.

Ever noticed that these right-wing turds hardly ever post anything about
their personal lives, but, instead, spend most of their time here taking
cheap shots at others?

What has "Smithers" really revealed about himself?

Nothing. Other than a penchant to "play" other posters here.

You're a fuktard!


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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:45:52 -0400, "ME ME ME" wrote:

Damn, I missed Harry's comment wanting to know personal information about
myself. I am glad he would like to know more about me.

I graduated from Yale, went to Harvard for my MBA and worked on Wall Street
for 10 yrs. In 1982I was asked by the Reagan Administration to sit on a
special commission, but turned it down. I finally accepted the job after I
received a personal phone call from Ronnie. Ronnie told me he needed my
services to turn around the economy. Since then I have alternated between
the private sector and working for the government (including a 13 month
stint with the Clinton administration). I have always taken a pay cut when
I work in Washington, but it is worth it to help our country.

Harry, if you want to know any more personal information, just let me know.

Yeah, but how many times have you gone around Cape Horn? When did you last have
lunch with the Dalai Lama?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won the BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal. It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we have meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor and his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes when he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information with
others.







"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:45:52 -0400, "ME ME ME" wrote:

Damn, I missed Harry's comment wanting to know personal information about
myself. I am glad he would like to know more about me.

I graduated from Yale, went to Harvard for my MBA and worked on Wall
Street
for 10 yrs. In 1982I was asked by the Reagan Administration to sit on a
special commission, but turned it down. I finally accepted the job after
I
received a personal phone call from Ronnie. Ronnie told me he needed my
services to turn around the economy. Since then I have alternated
between
the private sector and working for the government (including a 13 month
stint with the Clinton administration). I have always taken a pay cut
when
I work in Washington, but it is worth it to help our country.

Harry, if you want to know any more personal information, just let me
know.

Yeah, but how many times have you gone around Cape Horn? When did you last
have
lunch with the Dalai Lama?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:29:00 -0400, "ME ME ME" wrote:

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won the BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal. It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we have meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor and his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes when he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information with
others.


I hesitate to ask, but which is virginal, the pineapple or the daiquiri? How
would an inquiring mind determine the virginity of either a pineapple or a
daiquiri?

With your worldly background and extensive knowledge of pert'near everything,
I'm sure my questions will be no problem.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

The key to making a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find a very young
pineapple, give it an aspirin, tell it to hold it between her legs and don't
let it fall.

In Tennessee, the key to a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find an 11
yr old pineapple that can run faster than her brother.




"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:29:00 -0400, "ME ME ME" wrote:

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won the
BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal. It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we have
meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor and
his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes when
he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information with
others.


I hesitate to ask, but which is virginal, the pineapple or the daiquiri?
How
would an inquiring mind determine the virginity of either a pineapple or a
daiquiri?

With your worldly background and extensive knowledge of pert'near
everything,
I'm sure my questions will be no problem.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"ME ME ME" wrote in message
...
The key to making a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find a very
young
pineapple, give it an aspirin, tell it to hold it between her legs and
don't
let it fall.

In Tennessee, the key to a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find an
11
yr old pineapple that can run faster than her brother.

That's not Tennessee....that's Snellville, Ga.





"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:29:00 -0400, "ME ME ME"
wrote:

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won
the
BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal.
It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we have
meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor and
his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes
when
he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information
with
others.


I hesitate to ask, but which is virginal, the pineapple or the
daiquiri?
How
would an inquiring mind determine the virginity of either a pineapple
or a
daiquiri?

With your worldly background and extensive knowledge of pert'near
everything,
I'm sure my questions will be no problem.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Paul,
In Snellville you have to make sure the 11 yr old has not been hanging
around the Karate Dojo.


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"ME ME ME" wrote in message
...
The key to making a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find a very
young
pineapple, give it an aspirin, tell it to hold it between her legs and
don't
let it fall.

In Tennessee, the key to a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find an
11
yr old pineapple that can run faster than her brother.

That's not Tennessee....that's Snellville, Ga.





"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:29:00 -0400, "ME ME ME"
wrote:

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won
the
BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal.
It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we have
meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor
and
his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes
when
he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information
with
others.


I hesitate to ask, but which is virginal, the pineapple or the
daiquiri?
How
would an inquiring mind determine the virginity of either a pineapple
or a
daiquiri?

With your worldly background and extensive knowledge of pert'near
everything,
I'm sure my questions will be no problem.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"ME ME ME" wrote in message
...
Paul,
In Snellville you have to make sure the 11 yr old has not been hanging
around the Karate Dojo.

LMAO




"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"ME ME ME" wrote in message
...
The key to making a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find a very
young
pineapple, give it an aspirin, tell it to hold it between her legs and
don't
let it fall.

In Tennessee, the key to a good virgin pineapple daiquiri is to find
an 11
yr old pineapple that can run faster than her brother.

That's not Tennessee....that's Snellville, Ga.





"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:29:00 -0400, "ME ME ME"
wrote:

JohnH,

I have always been hesitant to sail around Cape Horn, but when I won
the
BOC
in 1992 it was required that you sail the horn and not use the Canal.
It
was very nasty, wet and cold. I will never do it single-handed
again.

As far as the Dalai Lama, I have never had lunch with him, but we
have
meet
many times for cocktails and dinner. The Dalai likes to have a
virgin
pineapple daiquiri with a sprig of mint. I love his sense of humor
and
his
unique perspective on the world. He can tell some real ribald jokes
when
he
wants to.

Thanks for asking, it is nice to share my some personal information
with
others.


I hesitate to ask, but which is virginal, the pineapple or the
daiquiri?
How
would an inquiring mind determine the virginity of either a pineapple
or a
daiquiri?

With your worldly background and extensive knowledge of pert'near
everything,
I'm sure my questions will be no problem.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."