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NOYB wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . .. Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory |
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message .. . Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message m... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. |
NOYB wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message .. . Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . .. Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message om... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. So show me. This time find some reputable news source. |
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . .. Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . com... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. So show me. This time find some reputable news source. Are you friggin' kidding me? Don't you read the news? Rosen: The finance director for her 2000 Senate campaign faces a May 3 (2005) trial in Los Angeles for allegedly filing false campaign reports for a celebrity-studded Hollywood fundraising gala. David Rosen could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted. http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=42043 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Marc Rich: Marc Rich's socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund. She also lobbied heavily for Marc's pardon. Investigators want to know if Denise's contributions led to a direct quid pro quo exchange for her ex-husband's pardon. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html Peter Paul: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday. The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html |
NOYB wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message .. . NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message m... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message .com... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. So show me. This time find some reputable news source. Are you friggin' kidding me? Don't you read the news? Rosen: The finance director for her 2000 Senate campaign faces a May 3 (2005) trial in Los Angeles for allegedly filing false campaign reports for a celebrity-studded Hollywood fundraising gala. David Rosen could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted. http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=42043 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Marc Rich: Marc Rich's socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund. She also lobbied heavily for Marc's pardon. Investigators want to know if Denise's contributions led to a direct quid pro quo exchange for her ex-husband's pardon. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html Peter Paul: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday. The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Ok now we can at least argue facts. Is it so hard to give references when making claims? So far we have 1 allegation, that doesn't look like it will be pursued, and 1 incitement, yet to come to trial. How does this compare to something like Iran-Contra, Watergate, or the oil for food scandals? I'm not claiming all politicians are saints -- it happens on both sides. The guilty should be convicted. We shall see what the outcome is. Of interest to me, is did Hillary know and approve of what happened (if in fact it happened in the case of the fund raising?)? |
Ya, typical krause
lacking integrity and honor krause, because you are a failure, your family is dysfunctional, your business skill sets are non existent you continually criticize others who are successful. hmmmmmmm The only failures you and Trump have in common are a multiple of wives and loss of a business. Except his wives are pretty, yours from what I have heard are fat, ugly and about as dumb as a house plant. But they must have a little smarts because they left you. "Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... Clams Canino wrote: Those people all have boats or something? -W "Jim," wrote in message . .. Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Trump has or had a boat worthy of his pimpness. He's an ass. With a bad haircut. Indeed he is. |
"Jim," wrote in message ... Of interest to me, is did Hillary know and approve of what happened (if in fact it happened in the case of the fund raising?)? It all goes to leadership. Is she responsible for the crew on her ship or not? Harry answers this question all of the time. |
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . .. NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message m... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message om... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message r.com... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. So show me. This time find some reputable news source. Are you friggin' kidding me? Don't you read the news? Rosen: The finance director for her 2000 Senate campaign faces a May 3 (2005) trial in Los Angeles for allegedly filing false campaign reports for a celebrity-studded Hollywood fundraising gala. David Rosen could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted. http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=42043 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Marc Rich: Marc Rich's socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund. She also lobbied heavily for Marc's pardon. Investigators want to know if Denise's contributions led to a direct quid pro quo exchange for her ex-husband's pardon. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html Peter Paul: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday. The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Ok now we can at least argue facts. Is it so hard to give references when making claims? So far we have 1 allegation, that doesn't look like it will be pursued, and 1 incitement, yet to come to trial. How does this compare to something like Iran-Contra, Watergate, or the oil for food scandals? Apples to apples please. Your question should be: "how does Hillary Clinton's fundraising compare to what Tom Delay is being accused of?" That's the real issue here. Delay is being castigated for much less severe transgressions than what Bill and Hillary Clinton are guilty of. |
"harry.krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... Of interest to me, is did Hillary know and approve of what happened (if in fact it happened in the case of the fund raising?)? It all goes to leadership. Is she responsible for the crew on her ship or not? Harry answers this question all of the time. Bush has so lowered the bar for presidential responsibility that we may never recover. It is possible that even the American people are beginning to wake up about this guy and starting to realize that his positions and proposals are only making this country worse. Hopefully, some members of the US House may find they have spines, too, and begin to stop rubber-stamping every idiotic, irresponsible idea that Bush proposes. I haven't been following Hillary's adventures. If she has a staff member in fund-raising trouble, she should put him/her on leave until the matter is resolved. DeLay's problems involve personal involvement. According to Peter Paul, Hillary was personally neck deep in the fundraising illegalities. |
NOYB wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message .. . NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Jim," wrote in message om... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . com... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim," wrote in message . rr.com... Celebs including Donald Trump, Barbra Streisand, Chevy Chase, Jamie Lee Curtis and Rob Reiner have donated large chunks of change to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election campaign. (N.Y. Post) … Bill Clinton dined out in Manhattan on Tuesday with Jack Nicholson, Jerry Bruckheimer and a group of other big-name types. (Page Six) Holw many of Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign finance people are under indictment or have pled guilty to charges? There is too much stink following Hillary and she will soon be smeared with it which will result in her never being the party's nominee in 2008. Well -- *HOW MANY* How about some names and references? Currently facing trial: former finance chairman David Rosen Should be facing trial: Abdurahman Alamoudi, an official with the American Muslim Council who once vowed to eliminate Israel and had previously boasted, "We are the ones who went to the [Clinton] White House and defended what is called Hamas." Already convicted: Marc Rich (pardoned by Bill) Pincus Green (pardoned by Bill) Peter Paul As for the following folks: John Huang, James Riady, Yah Ling "Charlie" Trie... You'll have to read for yourself: http://www.think-aboutit.com/Conspir...chronology.htm COPYRIGHT 1997 by Conservative Consensus makes more than a little suspicious about the vast right wing conspiracy theory Only the info on Huang, Riady, and Trie comes from that page. All of the other names that I listed are (or have) been in the mainstream news. So show me. This time find some reputable news source. Are you friggin' kidding me? Don't you read the news? Rosen: The finance director for her 2000 Senate campaign faces a May 3 (2005) trial in Los Angeles for allegedly filing false campaign reports for a celebrity-studded Hollywood fundraising gala. David Rosen could face up to 15 years in prison if convicted. http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=42043 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Marc Rich: Marc Rich's socialite ex-wife has donated an estimated $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund. She also lobbied heavily for Marc's pardon. Investigators want to know if Denise's contributions led to a direct quid pro quo exchange for her ex-husband's pardon. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html Peter Paul: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday. The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4063107/detail.html http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...2clinton1.html Ok now we can at least argue facts. Is it so hard to give references when making claims? So far we have 1 allegation, that doesn't look like it will be pursued, and 1 incitement, yet to come to trial. How does this compare to something like Iran-Contra, Watergate, or the oil for food scandals? Apples to apples please. Your question should be: "how does Hillary Clinton's fundraising compare to what Tom Delay is being accused of?" That's the real issue here. Delay is being castigated for much less severe transgressions than what Bill and Hillary Clinton are guilty of. Umm -- try were *accused* of. So far the case against DeLAy seems pretty tight |
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