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http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

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April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope John
Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step up
their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states during
the campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on
abortion were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He
pointedly mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently
campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a Roman
Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion, Ratzinger
wrote, priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it." Any
Catholic who voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued, "would
be guilty of formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to present
himself for Holy Communion." During the closing weeks of the campaign, a
pastoral letter was read from pulpits in Catholic churches repeating the
ominous suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the Democrat was
nothing less than consorting with the forces of Satan, collaboration
with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three states
-- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the votes of
the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism and
Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving
grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.
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Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did you
finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?


"Jim," wrote in message
...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope John
Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step up
their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states during the
campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on abortion
were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He pointedly
mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently campaigning and
voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a Roman
Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion, Ratzinger wrote,
priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it." Any Catholic who
voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued, "would be guilty of
formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to present himself for Holy
Communion." During the closing weeks of the campaign, a pastoral letter
was read from pulpits in Catholic churches repeating the ominous
suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the Democrat was nothing less
than consorting with the forces of Satan, collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from the
2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift, Kerry
would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three states --
Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the votes of the
Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism and Sept. 11,
Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving grace. The key
to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.



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Yes, it's me wrote:

Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did you
finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?


He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"


"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope John
Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step up
their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states during the
campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on abortion
were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He pointedly
mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently campaigning and
voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a Roman
Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion, Ratzinger wrote,
priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it." Any Catholic who
voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued, "would be guilty of
formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to present himself for Holy
Communion." During the closing weeks of the campaign, a pastoral letter
was read from pulpits in Catholic churches repeating the ominous
suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the Democrat was nothing less
than consorting with the forces of Satan, collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from the
2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift, Kerry
would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three states --
Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the votes of the
Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism and Sept. 11,
Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving grace. The key
to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.




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harry.krause wrote:

Jim, wrote:

Yes, it's me wrote:

Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did
you finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?




He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"




That's correct. Prescott Bush, the late U.S. Senator from Connecticut,
played footsie with the Nazis. I remember reading about it in the New
Haven Register in the 1950s.

Be careful here, Jim, Smithers is here only to disrupt this newsgroup.


And remember, when you shop:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...al-Mart300.gif



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see
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG..._Bush_ Nazi_2
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It sure was nice of Prescott to help someone who rallied against the Nazi's
wasn't it. Prescott was a true patriot.


"Jim," wrote in message
...
Yes, it's me wrote:

Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did you
finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?


He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"


"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope John
Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step up
their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states during the
campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on abortion
were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He pointedly
mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently campaigning and
voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a Roman
Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion, Ratzinger
wrote, priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it." Any Catholic
who voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued, "would be guilty
of formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to present himself for Holy
Communion." During the closing weeks of the campaign, a pastoral letter
was read from pulpits in Catholic churches repeating the ominous
suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the Democrat was nothing less
than consorting with the forces of Satan, collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three
states -- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the
votes of the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism
and Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving
grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.






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Harry,
Besides your political trolls, what purpose do you have here? You have
always said the only reason you come to rec.boats is to **** of the
ReichWing Trash.

You are just upset because now you can not play your "my wife the doctor"
told me you were paranoid and delusional. Why are you ashamed of your wife
working as a social worker? Do you think that is not an acceptable
profession? Is it because she is paid a salary and you can no longer say
"My wife does 70% of her work pro bono?

What is the real reason you are so upset?


"harry.krause" wrote in message
...
Jim, wrote:
Yes, it's me wrote:

Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did
you finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?



He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"




That's correct. Prescott Bush, the late U.S. Senator from Connecticut,
played footsie with the Nazis. I remember reading about it in the New
Haven Register in the 1950s.

Be careful here, Jim, Smithers is here only to disrupt this newsgroup.


And remember, when you shop:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...al-Mart300.gif



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Yes, it's me wrote:

It sure was nice of Prescott to help someone who rallied against the Nazi's
wasn't it. Prescott was a true patriot.


That's why some of his assets were seized


"Jim," wrote in message
...

Yes, it's me wrote:


Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did you
finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?


He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"


"Jim," wrote in message
. ..


http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope John
Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step up
their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states during the
campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on abortion
were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He pointedly
mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently campaigning and
voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a Roman
Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion, Ratzinger
wrote, priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it." Any Catholic
who voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued, "would be guilty
of formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to present himself for Holy
Communion." During the closing weeks of the campaign, a pastoral letter
was read from pulpits in Catholic churches repeating the ominous
suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the Democrat was nothing less
than consorting with the forces of Satan, collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three
states -- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the
votes of the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism
and Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving
grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.



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Jim,,,,
The Nazi's stated he was trying to overthrow the Nazi government, and
imprisoned him for his antigovernment activities. According to The Simon
Wiesthanthal Center " Soviet pact of 23 August 1939 and the aggressive war
policy of the regime had been the last straw for Thyssen, who wrote to
Hitler as 'a free and upright German', claiming to be the 'voice of the
tormented German nation' calling for a restoration of 'freedom, right and
humanity' in the German Reich. Thyssen's appeal was ignored, he was stripped
in absentia of his German citizenship and his property was confiscated. In
1941, his memoirs, I Paid Hitler, first appeared in English, an anguished
settling of accounts with the Nazi regime which 'has ruined Germany' but
singularly unreliable in its recounting of his financial relationship with
the National Socialists. Thyssen was arrested and turned over to the Nazis
by the Vichy police for return to Germany, where he was imprisoned for the
rest of the war. He died in Buenos Aires on 8 February 1951."

I for one am glad a major German industrialist was doing everything he
could to hurt the Nazi's war machine. I am also glad Prescott had enough
class and integrity to assist someone who was doing everything he could to
overthrow Hitler.


Don't you feel like an idiot for reprinting that biased propaganda, you
LiberalTrash Borgnuts are so predictable.


"Jim," wrote in message
...
Yes, it's me wrote:

It sure was nice of Prescott to help someone who rallied against the
Nazi's wasn't it. Prescott was a true patriot.


That's why some of his assets were seized


"Jim," wrote in message
...

Yes, it's me wrote:


Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did
you finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?

He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"


"Jim," wrote in message
.. .


http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope
John Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step
up their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states
during the campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on
abortion were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He
pointedly mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently
campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a
Roman Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion,
Ratzinger wrote, priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it."
Any Catholic who voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued,
"would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to
present himself for Holy Communion." During the closing weeks of the
campaign, a pastoral letter was read from pulpits in Catholic churches
repeating the ominous suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the
Democrat was nothing less than consorting with the forces of Satan,
collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three
states -- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the
votes of the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of
terrorism and Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See
as his saving grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal
Ratzinger.





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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:27:37 GMT, "Jim," cut'n'pasted some
more stuff:

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three states
-- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the votes of
the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of terrorism and
Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See as his saving
grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal Ratzinger.



Thank God for the Cardinal. Look what we'd have been stuck with otherwise.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
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Yes, it's me wrote:
But still hasn't explained *WHY* the US government seized Prescott
Bushes assets both during and post WW2

Jim,,,,
The Nazi's stated he was trying to overthrow the Nazi government, and
imprisoned him for his antigovernment activities. According to The Simon
Wiesthanthal Center " Soviet pact of 23 August 1939 and the aggressive war
policy of the regime had been the last straw for Thyssen, who wrote to
Hitler as 'a free and upright German', claiming to be the 'voice of the
tormented German nation' calling for a restoration of 'freedom, right and
humanity' in the German Reich. Thyssen's appeal was ignored, he was stripped
in absentia of his German citizenship and his property was confiscated. In
1941, his memoirs, I Paid Hitler, first appeared in English, an anguished
settling of accounts with the Nazi regime which 'has ruined Germany' but
singularly unreliable in its recounting of his financial relationship with
the National Socialists. Thyssen was arrested and turned over to the Nazis
by the Vichy police for return to Germany, where he was imprisoned for the
rest of the war. He died in Buenos Aires on 8 February 1951."

I for one am glad a major German industrialist was doing everything he
could to hurt the Nazi's war machine. I am also glad Prescott had enough
class and integrity to assist someone who was doing everything he could to
overthrow Hitler.


Don't you feel like an idiot for reprinting that biased propaganda, you
LiberalTrash Borgnuts are so predictable.


"Jim," wrote in message
...

Yes, it's me wrote:


It sure was nice of Prescott to help someone who rallied against the
Nazi's wasn't it. Prescott was a true patriot.


That's why some of his assets were seized


"Jim," wrote in message
.. .


Yes, it's me wrote:



Jim,,,,,
What ever happened to your story about Bush investing in Nazi's? Did
you finally realize how silly your cut and paste was?

He didn't invest with, they paid him to invest For them -- and it was
grandpa bush Prescott. Had assets seized under the "trading with the
enemy act"


"Jim," wrote in message
. ..



http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument.../tk/print.html

extract

April 21, 2005 | President Bush treated his final visit with Pope
John Paul II in Vatican City on June 4, 2004, as a campaign stop. After
enduring a public rebuke from the pope about the Iraq war, Bush lobbied
Vatican officials to help him win the election. "Not all the American
bishops are with me," he complained, according to the National Catholic
Reporter. He pleaded with the Vatican to pressure the bishops to step
up their activism against abortion and gay marriage in the states
during the campaign season.

About a week later, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger sent a letter to the U.S.
bishops, pronouncing that those Catholics who were pro-choice on
abortion were committing a "grave sin" and must be denied Communion. He
pointedly mentioned "the case of a Catholic politician consistently
campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws" --
an obvious reference to John Kerry, the Democratic candidate and a
Roman Catholic. If such a Catholic politician sought Communion,
Ratzinger wrote, priests must be ordered to "refuse to distribute it."
Any Catholic who voted for this "Catholic politician," he continued,
"would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil and so unworthy to
present himself for Holy Communion." During the closing weeks of the
campaign, a pastoral letter was read from pulpits in Catholic churches
repeating the ominous suggestion of excommunication. Voting for the
Democrat was nothing less than consorting with the forces of Satan,
collaboration with "evil."

In 2004 Bush increased his margin of Catholic support by 6 points from
the 2000 election, rising from 46 to 52 percent. Without this shift,
Kerry would have had a popular majority of a million votes. Three
states -- Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico -- moved into Bush's column on the
votes of the Catholic "faithful." Even with his atmospherics of
terrorism and Sept. 11, Bush required the benediction of the Holy See
as his saving grace. The key to his kingdom was turned by Cardinal
Ratzinger.




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