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JGK March 6th 04 03:36 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its performance or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you look at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks



Tony Thomas March 6th 04 04:39 PM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
Depends on the boat your using this on. The 125 is not a very good engine
in my opinion. It has that jump from about 1500 rpms to 3000 rpms. It was
designed for a bass boat or small runabout application where you would not
be trying to run at very low speeds. Again, what boat and what is it rated
for. You just found out why I always recommend the max hp for a boat.
As for value of that engine. You are not going to be happy w/ the trade
value. Probably about $3500 at best.
Go w/ either Merc or Yamaha EFI. Depends on the dealer in your area as both
are very good engines.

Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its performance

or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you look at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks





JGK March 6th 04 05:53 PM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
The boat is a 19ft Pro-line Center Console, Max Rated hp is 150.

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:79n2c.60263$PR3.1063594@attbi_s03...
Depends on the boat your using this on. The 125 is not a very good engine
in my opinion. It has that jump from about 1500 rpms to 3000 rpms. It

was
designed for a bass boat or small runabout application where you would not
be trying to run at very low speeds. Again, what boat and what is it

rated
for. You just found out why I always recommend the max hp for a boat.
As for value of that engine. You are not going to be happy w/ the trade
value. Probably about $3500 at best.
Go w/ either Merc or Yamaha EFI. Depends on the dealer in your area as

both
are very good engines.

Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its

performance
or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you look

at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks







del cecchi March 7th 04 01:00 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
The boat is a 19ft Pro-line Center Console, Max Rated hp is 150.

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:79n2c.60263$PR3.1063594@attbi_s03...
Depends on the boat your using this on. The 125 is not a very good

engine
in my opinion. It has that jump from about 1500 rpms to 3000 rpms.

It
was
designed for a bass boat or small runabout application where you

would not
be trying to run at very low speeds. Again, what boat and what is

it
rated
for. You just found out why I always recommend the max hp for a

boat.
As for value of that engine. You are not going to be happy w/ the

trade
value. Probably about $3500 at best.
Go w/ either Merc or Yamaha EFI. Depends on the dealer in your area

as
both
are very good engines.

Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its

performance
or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should

stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you

look
at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks

I think that the price on the 150 XR6 is about 7000. How much faster do
you expect to go with a 150 over a 125?









JGK March 7th 04 02:36 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
Not about speed... more about dependability

"del cecchi" wrote in message
...

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
The boat is a 19ft Pro-line Center Console, Max Rated hp is 150.

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:79n2c.60263$PR3.1063594@attbi_s03...
Depends on the boat your using this on. The 125 is not a very good

engine
in my opinion. It has that jump from about 1500 rpms to 3000 rpms.

It
was
designed for a bass boat or small runabout application where you

would not
be trying to run at very low speeds. Again, what boat and what is

it
rated
for. You just found out why I always recommend the max hp for a

boat.
As for value of that engine. You are not going to be happy w/ the

trade
value. Probably about $3500 at best.
Go w/ either Merc or Yamaha EFI. Depends on the dealer in your area

as
both
are very good engines.

Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its

performance
or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should

stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you

look
at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks

I think that the price on the 150 XR6 is about 7000. How much faster do
you expect to go with a 150 over a 125?











Tony Thomas March 7th 04 02:48 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
The 150 uses a completely different design and powerhead. It will produce a
lot more torque and probably 10 mph top end speed difference. I would
recommend you go for it in the long run if you like the boat and plan on
keeping it.
Now, not sure what you mean by dependability. The 125 should not be giving
you and problems in terms of maintenance or down time. Please give details
if you are having a problem. Should be solvable.


Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
Not about speed... more about dependability

"del cecchi" wrote in message
...

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
The boat is a 19ft Pro-line Center Console, Max Rated hp is 150.

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:79n2c.60263$PR3.1063594@attbi_s03...
Depends on the boat your using this on. The 125 is not a very good

engine
in my opinion. It has that jump from about 1500 rpms to 3000 rpms.

It
was
designed for a bass boat or small runabout application where you

would not
be trying to run at very low speeds. Again, what boat and what is

it
rated
for. You just found out why I always recommend the max hp for a

boat.
As for value of that engine. You are not going to be happy w/ the

trade
value. Probably about $3500 at best.
Go w/ either Merc or Yamaha EFI. Depends on the dealer in your area

as
both
are very good engines.

Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 1999 Merc 125, Have not really been happy about its
performance
or
reliability.
I would like to upgrade it to a 150HP but not sure if I should

stick to
Mercury. A few questions on this:
1. If you were upgrading to a 150 HP engine, which one would you

look
at?
2. What can I expect to get for the 1999 Merc 125
Thanks

I think that the price on the 150 XR6 is about 7000. How much faster do
you expect to go with a 150 over a 125?













JGK March 7th 04 04:21 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:d4w2c.491243$I06.5326755@attbi_s01...
The 150 uses a completely different design and powerhead. It will produce

a
lot more torque and probably 10 mph top end speed difference. I would
recommend you go for it in the long run if you like the boat and plan on
keeping it.
Now, not sure what you mean by dependability. The 125 should not be

giving
you and problems in terms of maintenance or down time. Please give

details
if you are having a problem. Should be solvable.


Since I have had the boat, I bought it new in 1999, I have had to rebuild
the carbs, the dealer claimed the gas gummed them up, The stator/rectifier
went out, Tach did not work but Voltage gauge was still showing 13+ volts,
impellors, last one only lasted 4 months. all work was done at a Merc
factory Dealership. Not to mention the engine still runs rougher than I
think it should and hesitates on take off.



del cecchi March 7th 04 09:49 PM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:d4w2c.491243$I06.5326755@attbi_s01...
The 150 uses a completely different design and powerhead. It will

produce
a
lot more torque and probably 10 mph top end speed difference. I

would
recommend you go for it in the long run if you like the boat and

plan on
keeping it.
Now, not sure what you mean by dependability. The 125 should not be

giving
you and problems in terms of maintenance or down time. Please give

details
if you are having a problem. Should be solvable.


Since I have had the boat, I bought it new in 1999, I have had to

rebuild
the carbs, the dealer claimed the gas gummed them up, The

stator/rectifier
went out, Tach did not work but Voltage gauge was still showing 13+

volts,
impellors, last one only lasted 4 months. all work was done at a Merc
factory Dealership. Not to mention the engine still runs rougher than

I
think it should and hesitates on take off.


I've got the same motor (115 version). It is a 2+2, so if that bothers
you, then by all means upgrade. It will be worth the few thousand to
not be p.o.'d all the time. Carbs, impellers, stator, etc can happen to
any motor. There is nothing unique about the 125.

On the other hand, I wonder about that dealer. My motor is a 98, and I
have not yet had gummed up carbs. The impeller is original. I keep
asking the dealer and he says they last a long time in clean Minnesota
water. Sounds like the dealer screwed up the impeller. About the
carbs, how do you prepare for storage? Where do you live?

del cecchi





JGK March 7th 04 11:18 PM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 
No Storage...I live in South Florida and the boats sees the water at least
once a month year round.. The dealer told me it was bad gas and not under
warranty. I think the longest it went just sitting was about 60 days.

"del cecchi" wrote in message
...

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:d4w2c.491243$I06.5326755@attbi_s01...
The 150 uses a completely different design and powerhead. It will

produce
a
lot more torque and probably 10 mph top end speed difference. I

would
recommend you go for it in the long run if you like the boat and

plan on
keeping it.
Now, not sure what you mean by dependability. The 125 should not be

giving
you and problems in terms of maintenance or down time. Please give

details
if you are having a problem. Should be solvable.


Since I have had the boat, I bought it new in 1999, I have had to

rebuild
the carbs, the dealer claimed the gas gummed them up, The

stator/rectifier
went out, Tach did not work but Voltage gauge was still showing 13+

volts,
impellors, last one only lasted 4 months. all work was done at a Merc
factory Dealership. Not to mention the engine still runs rougher than

I
think it should and hesitates on take off.


I've got the same motor (115 version). It is a 2+2, so if that bothers
you, then by all means upgrade. It will be worth the few thousand to
not be p.o.'d all the time. Carbs, impellers, stator, etc can happen to
any motor. There is nothing unique about the 125.

On the other hand, I wonder about that dealer. My motor is a 98, and I
have not yet had gummed up carbs. The impeller is original. I keep
asking the dealer and he says they last a long time in clean Minnesota
water. Sounds like the dealer screwed up the impeller. About the
carbs, how do you prepare for storage? Where do you live?

del cecchi







del cecchi March 8th 04 04:30 AM

Is an upgrade worth the Cost"
 

"JGK" wrote in message
.. .
No Storage...I live in South Florida and the boats sees the water at

least
once a month year round.. The dealer told me it was bad gas and not

under
warranty. I think the longest it went just sitting was about 60 days.

"del cecchi" wrote in message
...

"JGK" wrote in message
. ..
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:d4w2c.491243$I06.5326755@attbi_s01...
The 150 uses a completely different design and powerhead. It

will
produce
a
lot more torque and probably 10 mph top end speed difference. I

would
recommend you go for it in the long run if you like the boat and

plan on
keeping it.
Now, not sure what you mean by dependability. The 125 should

not be
giving
you and problems in terms of maintenance or down time. Please

give
details
if you are having a problem. Should be solvable.

Since I have had the boat, I bought it new in 1999, I have had to

rebuild
the carbs, the dealer claimed the gas gummed them up, The

stator/rectifier
went out, Tach did not work but Voltage gauge was still showing

13+
volts,
impellors, last one only lasted 4 months. all work was done at a

Merc
factory Dealership. Not to mention the engine still runs rougher

than
I
think it should and hesitates on take off.


I've got the same motor (115 version). It is a 2+2, so if that

bothers
you, then by all means upgrade. It will be worth the few thousand

to
not be p.o.'d all the time. Carbs, impellers, stator, etc can

happen to
any motor. There is nothing unique about the 125.

On the other hand, I wonder about that dealer. My motor is a 98,

and I
have not yet had gummed up carbs. The impeller is original. I keep
asking the dealer and he says they last a long time in clean

Minnesota
water. Sounds like the dealer screwed up the impeller. About the
carbs, how do you prepare for storage? Where do you live?

del cecchi


OK. I have heard that with today's "reformulated gasoline" that letting
it sit for a month or two, especially in heat and high humidity, can
cause problems. And it may be that salt water and maybe a little sand
are hard on impellers. I'd at least consider another dealer.

del cecchi









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