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Doug Kanter April 14th 05 12:33 PM

How will gasoline prices impact boating in your area?
 
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the ones
who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to spot.
They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to the dock
with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat. "That real
rope's purty expensive".



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
From Oakland County, Michigan


Will gas prices dock boats?
Enthusiasts may keep craft out of water, but businesses doubt it

As the weather warms and boat owners begin putting their craft in the
water, the businesses that cater to them are speculating how record gas
prices will affect the sport.

Many said owners of large boats - like motor yachts and cabin cruisers
found on bigger bodies of water such as Lake St. Clair - may change their
ways.

"The larger boats may cut back the length of trips or the number of ports
they'll call on," said Van Snider, president of Livonia-based Michigan
Boating Industries Association.

Snider added, "It won't have a significant impact on smaller boats or on
fishing, for example, because you're not burning a lot of fuel."

Gas consumption is a big factor in Michigan, where boating generates $2.4
billion annually. In Oakland County, about 95,000 boats are registered.

Curly Arbuckle, sales manager at Colony Marine in Pontiac, waved off the
effects of gas pricing and appeared optimistic about the coming season.

"People are tired of the way things are," said Arbuckle. "A lot have money
to spend, and I think things are beginning to loosen up. We have lots of
interest in our boats."

Eric Wright of Waterford Township's Island Cover Marina on Cass Lake
hasn't opened his gas dock yet, but, when he does, he plans to set the
price per gallon at $3.20.

"I like to set a price and keep it there all season," he said. "We don't
sell enough to make a profit. Basically, it's a convenience for people."

Wright doesn't allow boaters to bring their own gas to the marina to fill
their tanks because of environmental regulations.

"But some people will bring gas and fill up in the lake," he said.
"There's nothing that can be done about it. But if (police officers) see
you spilling, they can write a ticket."

One Michigan dealer, selling only electric-powered boats near Jackson,
said he believes gas prices will help sales this year.

"The time is now for electric boats," said Larry Younkman, who exclusively
sells Clarklake-based Duffy Electric Boats in Jackson County.

"People are flipping out over them," said Younkman. "Gas is an issue now,
and I feel there is a definite demand for our boats."

Many marina owners dismiss the influence of higher gas prices.

Craig Stigleman, owner of Aggressive Marine in Commerce Township, said
most of his customers are people in "half-million-dollar homes on the
lakes.

"They're still going to use their boats," he said.

However, Stigleman pointed to a more serious factor affecting boat sales.

"Layoffs, like the 700 in Detroit or hundreds at Delphi, hurt us more than
gas prices," said Stigleman.

"For people who were thinking about buying a boat who may be (possibly
laid off), a new boat is the last thing on their list."


Click here for story:

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stori...50414021.shtml
--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Bert Robbins April 14th 05 12:59 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the
ones who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to
spot. They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to the
dock with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat. "That
real rope's purty expensive".


Ah, where do you think that plastic rope comes from? The same crude oil that
is used to make the gasoline. So, that plastic rope is more "purty
expensive" than that real rope.

Just like all tree hugging assholes, you haven't got the slightest clue
about how dependent our economy is on oil.



Eisboch April 14th 05 01:17 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I believe this weekend is the beginning of "Trophy Season" on the Bay.
This is when you can keep a rockfish (striper) 28" or longer. As a
result, every yahoo and his boddy will be out in a boat this weekend,
looking to bag one. It's a great time to stay off the water and save
gasoline. I never go out during the beginning of Trophy Season.

What's really silly is the drive to catch stripers much larger than that
for the table. Any good seafood chef knows the really big stripers don't
taste as good as the smaller ones.


I kinda lost interest in fishing a couple of years ago, but I seem to recall
that, in Cape Cod Bay at least, you were not legally allowed to keep a
striper (striped bass) that was less than 28 inches - in fact one year I
think the minimum was 32 inches. Are striped bass the same as a rockfish?

Eisboch



Netsock April 14th 05 01:49 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I believe this weekend is the beginning of "Trophy Season" on the Bay.
This is when you can keep a rockfish (striper) 28" or longer. As a
result, every yahoo and his boddy will be out in a boat this weekend,
looking to bag one. It's a great time to stay off the water and save
gasoline. I never go out during the beginning of Trophy Season.

What's really silly is the drive to catch stripers much larger than that
for the table. Any good seafood chef knows the really big stripers don't
taste as good as the smaller ones.


Heh heh...our proven boatless liar is still trying to convince us...


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



John H April 14th 05 02:02 PM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:17:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I believe this weekend is the beginning of "Trophy Season" on the Bay.
This is when you can keep a rockfish (striper) 28" or longer. As a
result, every yahoo and his boddy will be out in a boat this weekend,
looking to bag one. It's a great time to stay off the water and save
gasoline. I never go out during the beginning of Trophy Season.

What's really silly is the drive to catch stripers much larger than that
for the table. Any good seafood chef knows the really big stripers don't
taste as good as the smaller ones.


I kinda lost interest in fishing a couple of years ago, but I seem to recall
that, in Cape Cod Bay at least, you were not legally allowed to keep a
striper (striped bass) that was less than 28 inches - in fact one year I
think the minimum was 32 inches. Are striped bass the same as a rockfish?

Eisboch


We have what's called a 'trophy' season for one month beginning 16 April (in the
Maryland waters of the Chesapeake Bay). During that month only stripers
(rockfish, striped bass) of 28" or more can be kept - one per person. In
mid-May, the regular season starts in which each person can keep two rockfish.
Both must be 18" or greater, and only one can be over 28".

This leads some assholes to 'cull' their catch. They'll catch a 20"er and a
25"er, and keep fishing. Maybe they'll catch a 35"er. Then they'll throw the
20"er back in the water, dead of course. Folks like this strive hard to deserve
the term 'asshole'.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Doug Kanter April 14th 05 03:27 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the
ones who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to
spot. They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to the
dock with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat. "That
real rope's purty expensive".



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

From Oakland County, Michigan


Will gas prices dock boats?
Enthusiasts may keep craft out of water, but businesses doubt it

As the weather warms and boat owners begin putting their craft in the
water, the businesses that cater to them are speculating how record gas
prices will affect the sport.




Plastic rope? What? There's a replacement for manilla?

Remember manilla rope? Man, that stuff was easy to splice, not like
today's "plastic rope," even the good plastic rope. Had a nice hand to it.


You know the plastic rope I'm talking about? The stuff that's so light, you
can't throw it? Gets all kinked within days of bringing it home, and holds
the shape forever? It's so much fun to watch some boaters attempting to dock
with that stuff on a windy day.



Doug Kanter April 14th 05 03:27 PM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the
ones who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to
spot. They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to the
dock with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat. "That
real rope's purty expensive".


Ah, where do you think that plastic rope comes from? The same crude oil
that is used to make the gasoline. So, that plastic rope is more "purty
expensive" than that real rope.

Just like all tree hugging assholes, you haven't got the slightest clue
about how dependent our economy is on oil.


What the ****'s with you today, child? Didn't your dog give you your daily
butt sex?



Don White April 14th 05 04:24 PM

Harry Krause wrote:


Geez, Bert, do we really need to see evidence of your pottymouth?

Bert's an odd guy. The only times he posts, he uses foul language.
Must be a barrel of fun around his marina/club.

[email protected] April 14th 05 04:30 PM

If fuel gets to $5-6 a gallon, it might have some effect.

People go boating knowing full well that the entire activity is
expensive and cannot be justified financially from *any* perspective.
If $100 a day for fuel becomes $150 a day, or even $200- very few
people will stop boating as a result. After all, with $1000/month boat
payments going out 12 months a year who is going to let a few hundred
extra per month for fuel keep them ashore during the prime boating
season?

I do believe that high fuel prices will have some effect on the *type*
of boats that people will buy. For the last decade or so, the only
thing peole have cared much about is "how fast will it go?" I think
more buyers are likely to begin considering fuel economy as well as
speed when choosing boats, engines, etc.


[email protected] April 14th 05 04:33 PM

Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home

**********

What? And abandon the pastime to folks with a 'tude?


Eisboch April 14th 05 05:06 PM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch



Doug Kanter April 14th 05 05:06 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.



Short Wave Sportfishing April 14th 05 05:13 PM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.


My emergency throw bag has a braided poly rope and I can personally
speak to the effectiveness of having floating rope on a throw bag.

Later,

Tom


JimH April 14th 05 05:29 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--

But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.


My emergency throw bag has a braided poly rope and I can personally
speak to the effectiveness of having floating rope on a throw bag.

Later,

Tom


It is also used on small anchor stakes with floating buoys and with drift
anchor tow ropes (attach to anchors to allow it to be retrieved if main line
breaks).




[email protected] April 14th 05 05:40 PM

Harry wrote:

I dunno, Chuckster. I usually burn 20-30 gallons in a day of fishing
for
the paltry takings in Chesapeake Bay. For $90, my wife and I can head
out to any of many first-class restaurants and enjoy a first-class
seafood dinner WITH a bottle of wine. I suspect I will cut back on
fishing and spend my Bay boating time cruising and enjoy more time out
on the Shenandoah paddling a canoe.
*******************

You go boating to catch fish? :-)

I'm happy to spend $XXX per day of use for my boat because it is even
more enjoyable than sharing a bottle of wine in a restaurant.

But then again I'm halfway immune from high fuel prices.
Buring about 2 gph means I can boat all day for $100, even if diesel
hits $5 a gallon. Now of course somebody will say, "But it takes you
all day to get anywhere!" and they wouldn't be totally incorrect- but
I'm still realizing fuel economy of about 4nmpg. Besides, being out on
the boat is the payoff, whether you ever "get anywhwere", catch
anything, or not.


JimH April 14th 05 06:00 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Harry wrote:

I dunno, Chuckster. I usually burn 20-30 gallons in a day of fishing
for
the paltry takings in Chesapeake Bay. For $90, my wife and I can head
out to any of many first-class restaurants and enjoy a first-class
seafood dinner WITH a bottle of wine. I suspect I will cut back on
fishing and spend my Bay boating time cruising and enjoy more time out
on the Shenandoah paddling a canoe.
*******************

You go boating to catch fish? :-)

I'm happy to spend $XXX per day of use for my boat because it is even
more enjoyable than sharing a bottle of wine in a restaurant.


I am like most you and most other boaters and happy to be out on the water,
even when the fish are not biting. Hell, if anyone tried to justify the
cost/pound of the fish they cost, even excluding fuel costs, they would see
that they are paying far more than restaurant prices for that fish.



Don White April 14th 05 06:01 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.


Dock lines & anchor rodes should be nylon...you want a bit of
give/stretch in the line to reduce stress on your deck hardware.
The polyproplyne stuff is recommended for things like your dinghy painter.

JimH April 14th 05 06:05 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Harry wrote:

I dunno, Chuckster. I usually burn 20-30 gallons in a day of fishing
for
the paltry takings in Chesapeake Bay. For $90, my wife and I can head
out to any of many first-class restaurants and enjoy a first-class
seafood dinner WITH a bottle of wine. I suspect I will cut back on
fishing and spend my Bay boating time cruising and enjoy more time out
on the Shenandoah paddling a canoe.
*******************

You go boating to catch fish? :-)

I'm happy to spend $XXX per day of use for my boat because it is even
more enjoyable than sharing a bottle of wine in a restaurant.


I am like you and most other boaters and happy to be out on the water even
when the fish are not biting. Hell, if anyone tried to justify the
cost/pound of the fish they caught, even excluding fuel costs, they would
see that they are paying far more than restaurant prices for those fish.




edit



Doug Kanter April 14th 05 06:22 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--

But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.


My emergency throw bag has a braided poly rope and I can personally
speak to the effectiveness of having floating rope on a throw bag.

Later,

Tom


Right, but that's not your everyday rope, now is it, Mr Smarty? :-)



Paul Schilter April 14th 05 07:12 PM

Harry,
Real men use Hemp! :-)
Paul

Harry Krause wrote:

Plastic rope? What? There's a replacement for manilla?

Remember manilla rope? Man, that stuff was easy to splice, not like
today's "plastic rope," even the good plastic rope. Had a nice hand to it.








The real ME April 14th 05 07:40 PM

You are talking about polyprop. It is used a ski line because it floats


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the
ones who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to
spot. They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to
the dock with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat.
"That real rope's purty expensive".



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

From Oakland County, Michigan


Will gas prices dock boats?
Enthusiasts may keep craft out of water, but businesses doubt it

As the weather warms and boat owners begin putting their craft in the
water, the businesses that cater to them are speculating how record gas
prices will affect the sport.




Plastic rope? What? There's a replacement for manilla?

Remember manilla rope? Man, that stuff was easy to splice, not like
today's "plastic rope," even the good plastic rope. Had a nice hand to
it.


You know the plastic rope I'm talking about? The stuff that's so light,
you can't throw it? Gets all kinked within days of bringing it home, and
holds the shape forever? It's so much fun to watch some boaters attempting
to dock with that stuff on a windy day.




[email protected] April 14th 05 08:49 PM


Eisboch wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly

colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring

or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Some people cut it into short lengths, unwind it into its individual
strands and leave a little in the path of jetskis where it gets sucked
into the pumps and melts which shuts them down until the pumps are
overhauled. Boy, some people. Here's a reprint from Rolling Stone
magazine which has something to say about gas prices and the end of
civilization... Sam
http://www.bobandsheri.com/show_text...ID=100&show=bs


Doug Kanter April 14th 05 08:55 PM

wrote in message
oups.com...

Eisboch wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly

colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring

or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Some people cut it into short lengths, unwind it into its individual
strands and leave a little in the path of jetskis where it gets sucked
into the pumps and melts which shuts them down until the pumps are
overhauled. Boy, some people. Here's a reprint from Rolling Stone
magazine which has something to say about gas prices and the end of
civilization... Sam
http://www.bobandsheri.com/show_text...ID=100&show=bs


I'd like to buy "some people" a beer for thinking that one up. :-)



Short Wave Sportfishing April 14th 05 09:27 PM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:22:07 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:06:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--

But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch

Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.


My emergency throw bag has a braided poly rope and I can personally
speak to the effectiveness of having floating rope on a throw bag.


Right, but that's not your everyday rope, now is it, Mr Smarty? :-)


Well, I guess not.

Oh and thanks for the compliment - I am pretty damn smart.

Later,

Tom

Bert Robbins April 15th 05 12:29 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:


Geez, Bert, do we really need to see evidence of your pottymouth?

Bert's an odd guy. The only times he posts, he uses foul language.
Must be a barrel of fun around his marina/club.


Old enough to know that you are a sniveling little punk that can't think for
himself!



JimH April 15th 05 12:43 AM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:


Geez, Bert, do we really need to see evidence of your pottymouth?

Bert's an odd guy. The only times he posts, he uses foul language.
Must be a barrel of fun around his marina/club.


Old enough to know that you are a sniveling little punk that can't think
for himself!



Have you ever seen a milquetoast Don White post that stands on its own or
supports his unique position?

Don is, after all, nothing more than an insecure follower of Krause who
constantly has his head up Krause's ass and needs to find some sort of
security posting positive local newspaper articles about his town.



Bert Robbins April 15th 05 01:02 AM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:


Geez, Bert, do we really need to see evidence of your pottymouth?

Bert's an odd guy. The only times he posts, he uses foul language.
Must be a barrel of fun around his marina/club.


Old enough to know that you are a sniveling little punk that can't think
for himself!



Have you ever seen a milquetoast Don White post that stands on its own or
supports his unique position?


When Don initiates a post it is one that is from new source that is not
favorable to the US or one which supports his lazy union ass.

Don is, after all, nothing more than an insecure follower of Krause who
constantly has his head up Krause's ass and needs to find some sort of
security posting positive local newspaper articles about his town.


Notice that it goes, Bert's post, Harry's response to Bert's post, then Don
comes along and attempts to pile on.



Don White April 15th 05 01:33 AM

Bert Robbins wrote:
snip usual c*ap...

Notice that it goes, Bert's post, Harry's response to Bert's post, then Don
comes along and attempts to pile on.


Hee hee...I was wondering when your girlfriend JimH would break his own
peace accord and attack me again. This is the 3rd or 4th truce he's
broken since the New Year. You two make a good couple.

Bert Robbins April 15th 05 01:38 AM


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


Geez, Bert, do we really need to see evidence of your pottymouth?


Bert's an odd guy. The only times he posts, he uses foul language.
Must be a barrel of fun around his marina/club.

Old enough to know that you are a sniveling little punk that can't think
for himself!



Have you ever seen a milquetoast Don White post that stands on its own or
supports his unique position?



When Don initiates a post it is one that is from new source that is not
favorable to the US or one which supports his lazy union ass.


Don is, after all, nothing more than an insecure follower of Krause who
constantly has his head up Krause's ass and needs to find some sort of
security posting positive local newspaper articles about his town.



Notice that it goes, Bert's post, Harry's response to Bert's post, then
Don comes along and attempts to pile on.



Frankly, Bert, I think you, Hertvik and Tuuk share the same double-digit
IQ.

You're the only marine I know of from the 1980s who never got an overseas
billet. Were you a behavioral problem, or was it just plain stupidity?


It was called USMCR.



Wayne.B April 15th 05 01:57 AM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:06:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

==========================

Polypropylene. Also useful as a dinghy painter since it's less likely
to end up in your props. It is nasty stuff though.


Bert Robbins April 15th 05 02:03 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
snip usual c*ap...

Notice that it goes, Bert's post, Harry's response to Bert's post, then
Don comes along and attempts to pile on.

Hee hee...I was wondering when your girlfriend JimH would break his own
peace accord and attack me again. This is the 3rd or 4th truce he's broken
since the New Year. You two make a good couple.


You do you hang around elementary school playgrounds? You are picking up
their habits!



Don White April 15th 05 02:04 AM

Bert Robbins wrote:


It was called USMCR.



What did the 'R' stand for.... Reject??



Don White April 15th 05 02:08 AM

Bert Robbins wrote:


You do you hang around elementary school playgrounds? You are picking up
their habits!


I have no idea what their 'habits' are Bertie...why don't you tell us?

Bert Robbins April 15th 05 02:12 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


You do you hang around elementary school playgrounds? You are picking up
their habits!


I have no idea what their 'habits' are Bertie...why don't you tell us?


I'll ask my 8 year old daughter, you have about the same intelligence and
desires.



JimH April 15th 05 12:48 PM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
snip usual c*ap...

Notice that it goes, Bert's post, Harry's response to Bert's post, then
Don comes along and attempts to pile on.

Hee hee...I was wondering when your girlfriend JimH would break his own
peace accord and attack me again. This is the 3rd or 4th truce he's
broken since the New Year. You two make a good couple.



Sorry Donny but you are the one who decided the *truce* was broken several
weeks ago. Shortly after that you went into my bozo bin with Krause and
company. I have not replied to one of your posts since I killfiled you,
until now that is. And this is the first time since then that I have
replied directly to you.

Yes, it was a personal attack. The truth hurts, doesn't it Don?



Bill McKee April 16th 05 01:53 AM

Good article on cost of gas. Look at the Weds, 4/13 column
http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/columns/walters/



wrote in message
oups.com...
If fuel gets to $5-6 a gallon, it might have some effect.

People go boating knowing full well that the entire activity is
expensive and cannot be justified financially from *any* perspective.
If $100 a day for fuel becomes $150 a day, or even $200- very few
people will stop boating as a result. After all, with $1000/month boat
payments going out 12 months a year who is going to let a few hundred
extra per month for fuel keep them ashore during the prime boating
season?

I do believe that high fuel prices will have some effect on the *type*
of boats that people will buy. For the last decade or so, the only
thing peole have cared much about is "how fast will it go?" I think
more buyers are likely to begin considering fuel economy as well as
speed when choosing boats, engines, etc.




Wayne.B April 16th 05 04:30 AM

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:53:44 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Good article on cost of gas. Look at the Weds, 4/13 column
http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/columns/walters/


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The wholesale cost of gasoline is widely quoted in financial papers
such as the Wall Street Journal, usually price per gallon based on
some large quantity like a tanker load. Last time I looked it was
around $1.60 net of any highway or local sales tax. Not surprising
that it's well over $2 at the pump given that wholesale level. Nor is
the wholesale price surprising when the unrefined feed stock (crude
oil) is over $1 per gallon. Everyone who touches the product along
the way has to make some money on the transaction in order to stay in
business.


HarryKrause April 16th 05 09:31 PM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:10:27 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

From Oakland County, Michigan


Will gas prices dock boats?
Enthusiasts may keep craft out of water, but businesses doubt it


While I find gasoline prices alittle anoying, it will not effect me
and my boating at all. I am very wealthy, thus, the prices dont bother
me as much.

Doug Kanter April 22nd 05 07:21 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
Hopefully, it'll keep some of the stink boat yahoos home. Probably the
ones who are stretched thin financially to begin with. They're easy to
spot. They're the ones in a $50,000.00 floating Camaro, which come to the
dock with a 5 foot piece of plastic rope at each end of the boat. "That
real rope's purty expensive".



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

From Oakland County, Michigan


Will gas prices dock boats?
Enthusiasts may keep craft out of water, but businesses doubt it

As the weather warms and boat owners begin putting their craft in the
water, the businesses that cater to them are speculating how record gas
prices will affect the sport.




Plastic rope? What? There's a replacement for manilla?

Remember manilla rope? Man, that stuff was easy to splice, not like
today's "plastic rope," even the good plastic rope. Had a nice hand to it.


You know the plastic rope I'm talking about? The stuff that's so light, you
can't throw it? Gets all kinked within days of bringing it home, and holds
the shape forever? It's so much fun to watch some boaters attempting to dock
with that stuff on a windy day.



Doug Kanter April 22nd 05 07:21 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...




Yeah, the yellow crap. Floats. I hate it.

--


But it does have a useful purpose. The plastic, floating, brightly
colored
line is recommended (or maybe even required) for use with a life ring or
other mob floatation device.

Or as a waterski tow line.

Eisboch


Yeah, but not as docking line. If rope's not heavy enough to throw, it's
useless. Sometimes, you can simply drop that plastic crap and it'll defy
gravity & land in the wrong place. Too light & springy.




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