John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

Well, I'm not 100% sure what it is, but I'll tell you what I think it
was. Maybe NOYB will jump in and elucidate my elucidation.

I think there is not enough room in the mouth for the teeth to close
properly when the implants, screws, caps, crowns, etc. are installed..
So room must be made by raising the upper bone in which the teeth
root. This is done by placing a metal punch against the bone and
literally beating it upwards with a metal hammer. Of course, you've
had shots to deaden the pain (yeah, right!), so theoretically this
shouldn't hurt. But it did. And for the next 24 hours my head felt as
though someone were still going at it with a jackhammer, albeit a
small one.

And then the procedure had to be repeated on the other side of the
mouth. I just couldn't wait for that appointment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

Well, I'm not 100% sure what it is, but I'll tell you what I think it
was. Maybe NOYB will jump in and elucidate my elucidation.

I think there is not enough room in the mouth for the teeth to close
properly when the implants, screws, caps, crowns, etc. are installed..
So room must be made by raising the upper bone in which the teeth
root. This is done by placing a metal punch against the bone and
literally beating it upwards with a metal hammer. Of course, you've
had shots to deaden the pain (yeah, right!), so theoretically this
shouldn't hurt. But it did. And for the next 24 hours my head felt as
though someone were still going at it with a jackhammer, albeit a
small one.

And then the procedure had to be repeated on the other side of the
mouth. I just couldn't wait for that appointment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Holy ****...and you got to pay for this torture?

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:39:44 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

Well, I'm not 100% sure what it is, but I'll tell you what I think it
was. Maybe NOYB will jump in and elucidate my elucidation.

I think there is not enough room in the mouth for the teeth to close
properly when the implants, screws, caps, crowns, etc. are installed..
So room must be made by raising the upper bone in which the teeth
root. This is done by placing a metal punch against the bone and
literally beating it upwards with a metal hammer. Of course, you've
had shots to deaden the pain (yeah, right!), so theoretically this
shouldn't hurt. But it did. And for the next 24 hours my head felt as
though someone were still going at it with a jackhammer, albeit a
small one.

And then the procedure had to be repeated on the other side of the
mouth. I just couldn't wait for that appointment.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Holy ****...and you got to pay for this torture?

That's exactly what I asked the dentist. He was having all the fun,
and I was paying him for it!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not
the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not
10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

When there's not enough bone left in the maxilla (upper arch) to place an
implant of sufficient length, the surgeon lifts the membrane at the floor of
the sinus, and places bone grafting material (cadaver, autogenous, bovine,
synthetic, etc) iunderneath the membrane in the space he/she created. This
gives the surgeon enough bone thickness to place a sufficiently long implant
in the area...so that it doesn't protrude into the sinus space.

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not
the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not
10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

When there's not enough bone left in the maxilla (upper arch) to place an
implant of sufficient length, the surgeon lifts the membrane at the floor of
the sinus, and places bone grafting material (cadaver, autogenous, bovine,
synthetic, etc) iunderneath the membrane in the space he/she created. This
gives the surgeon enough bone thickness to place a sufficiently long implant
in the area...so that it doesn't protrude into the sinus space.


Oh..cadaver, definitely...that's the way to do it.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:40:44 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not
the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not
10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

When there's not enough bone left in the maxilla (upper arch) to place an
implant of sufficient length, the surgeon lifts the membrane at the floor of
the sinus, and places bone grafting material (cadaver, autogenous, bovine,
synthetic, etc) iunderneath the membrane in the space he/she created. This
gives the surgeon enough bone thickness to place a sufficiently long implant
in the area...so that it doesn't protrude into the sinus space.


Oh..cadaver, definitely...that's the way to do it.

I really think NOYB could make a two-week old, road-killed 'possum
sound appetizing!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:51:55 -0500, John H
wrote:

I really think NOYB could make a two-week old, road-killed 'possum
sound appetizing!

He's been trying that with Bush for three years now and it's not
working.

bb

When I was a teen my orthodontist pulled two of my bottom teeth to make
room. Normal enough to pull permanant teeth for this procedure. Except -
that no one looked at the ex-rays.

Appears the crowding was caused by a couple of fairly well rooted baby teeth
that both fell out before I was 30. Of course the two pulled teeth were
right next door and had the two baby teeth been removed moved instead it
would have been abou tthe same overall effect.

So now I have a 1/4" gap behind each of my lower canine teeth, then the
molars start. I've often considered implants for those 2 holes - the rest of
my teeth are fine.

-W


"NOYB" wrote in message news:nzQ1c.178084

When there's not enough bone left in the maxilla (upper arch) to place an
implant of sufficient length, the surgeon lifts the membrane at the floor
of
the sinus, and places bone grafting material (cadaver, autogenous, bovine,
synthetic, etc) iunderneath the membrane in the space he/she created.
This
gives the surgeon enough bone thickness to place a sufficiently long
implant
in the area...so that it doesn't protrude into the sinus space.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa
Rica?

Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but:

http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm

According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the
states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the
abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as
you claimed.



My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some
company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The
posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven
years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure.

The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate?

PS. At the time I had three different dental policies, none of which
would cover any of the costs associated with implants. I did get a
nice tax deduction out of it though. The dentist allowed (hell, he
loved it) to pay in advance so that all the expenditures were done in
one year.

Also, this was probably due to smoking 2-3 packs per day of cigarettes
for about 39 years, and having had all the periodontal problems that
go with same.
John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!