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NOYB February 28th 04 01:30 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
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From the Toronto Star:

Feb. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM

Premiers fear collapse of health-care system


CAROLINE MALLAN AND DANIEL GIRARD
STAFF REPORTERS

VANCOUVER-Canada's premiers say the health-care system will begin to
self-destruct by the end of the decade without both an overhaul and a cash
influx from the federal Liberals.

At the end of the inaugural meeting of the Council of the Federation,
the premiers demanded that Prime Minister Paul Martin increase base
transfers to the provinces for health care by $2 billion in the March 23
federal budget.

They accuse the federal government of purposely understating the size
of the surplus and short-changing the health-care purse year after year.

Alberta Premier Ralph Klein said his recent musings about possibly
pulling his province out of the Canada Health Act, de-listing some services
and forgoing federal funding has not reached the point of serious
discussion.

The Premiers agreed that Ontario and British Columbia will come up
with a series of research papers in advance of their next meeting in July.

The two provinces will present their findings on what is driving up
the cost of health care and what long-term funding is needed.

The two provinces will also look at better ways to provide health care
in remote communities.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said in an interview that he worries
that other initiatives, such as a literacy program, an agreement to break
down inter-provincial barriers and plans to work together on emergency
preparedness will go unnoticed in the seemingly never-ending health-care
fray.



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No wonder I've been seeing so many Canadians in my practice lately.






NOYB February 28th 04 01:31 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
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Here's mo

Feb. 26, 2004. 01:00 AM

Liberals claim queue-jumping, extra billing exist
MPP discusses concerns at medicare hearing

Bill 8 would fine MDs for `two-tier' medicine


THERESA BOYLE
QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU

Some doctors in Ontario are illegally taking cash payments and
allowing patients to jump ahead in line to get faster treatment, according
to the Ontario government.

"I believe there is some queue-jumping happening," Liberal MPP Monique
Smith, parliamentary assistant to Health Minister George Smitherman, said
yesterday.

"I think there is some concern that there are people paying their way
to the front of the line and that's got to stop."

Queue-jumping and extra billing are violations of the Canada Health
Act.

Smith made her comments outside an all-party committee meeting where
MPPs were studying Bill 8, the Commitment to the Future of Medicare Act,
which would clamp down on such practices.

Smitherman also addressed the committee recently and raised similar
concerns.

"One recent example of queue-jumping is a clinic that allowed people
who were willing to purchase an enhanced lens for cataracts to get cataract
surgery immediately, while all other cataract patients had to wait a year
for the same surgery," he said last week.

"We cannot tolerate this kind of activity," he continued, calling it a
form of "two-tier" medicine.

The cataract case in question involved patients being charged between
$400 and $600 for a supposedly better lens. A government source cited one
example in which patients are told the lenses can help prevent conditions
such as macular degeneration. The Ontario Health Insurance Plan does not
cover the cost of such lenses because they are medically unproven.

The source cited another example in which patients are offered bifocal
lenses. Again, OHIP does not pick up the tab because such lenses are not
considered medically necessary. In both cases the operations are
reclassified as plastic surgery and patients get it faster, sometimes within
two weeks.

There are also cases of some doctors extra-billing patients by
charging them "block fees" for services that are already covered by OHIP,
according to government sources.

These fees - which usually range from $50 to $125 annually - are
intended to cover uninsured services such as renewing prescriptions over the
phone, writing sick notes to employers, providing telephone consultations
and filling out insurance forms. Not all doctors charge block fees, but
increasingly they are doing so to supplement their income.

Patients don't always know what they're being charged for and there
have been cases where they paid extra for services already covered by OHIP,
according to government sources.

Bill 8 would increase the transparency around block fees, ensuring
patients know what they are paying for. The legislation would also ensure
that patients know block fees are optional - and that if they don't pay
them, their access to a doctor should not be hindered.

OMA president Dr. Larry Erlick gave mixed messages to reporters when
asked about queue-jumping.

"I do queue-jumping every day. ... I just happened to have a cardiac
patient waiting for bypass and suddenly he's having chest pain at rest. So I
called up the surgeon and said you've got to move him up to the head of the
list because he's now a medical emergency. I don't apologize for that.
Doctors do that every day with their patients," he said.

"We're trying to play the system on how to get our patients access to
care because the waiting lists are too long."

Erlick later stressed the distinction between a medical emergency and
paying for faster treatment. "What I want to clarify is that I don't support
anybody paying for queue-jumping. I hope I didn't give you the wrong
message. ... Nobody should be able to buy their way to the front of the
line."

In its initial form, Bill 8 called for jail terms of up to one year
and fines of up to $50,000 for doctors caught allowing queue-jumping. The
province has since softened the penalties, removing any mention of jail
terms.

The amount of the fines is still being worked out.





Harry Krause February 28th 04 01:47 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag -hey, the slammer arrived.
 
Noyb:
The slammer arrived today. Nicely made, as are most Penn reels. Instant
anti-reverse, and a totally different drag system than the SS series.
The 460 is about the size of a 6500, with a smaller spool. No lever that
allows reversing the reel...

Don White February 28th 04 03:03 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
The Federal Gov't balanced it's books on the backs of the provinces and the
provinces in turn on the municipalities.
Funding for our health system hasn't kept pace with costs.
This is an ongoing complaint year after year.

NOYB wrote in message
. com...
From the Toronto Star:

Feb. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM

Premiers fear collapse of health-care system


CAROLINE MALLAN AND DANIEL GIRARD
STAFF REPORTERS

VANCOUVER-Canada's premiers say the health-care system will begin to
self-destruct by the end of the decade without both an overhaul and a cash
influx from the federal Liberals.

At the end of the inaugural meeting of the Council of the

Federation,
the premiers demanded that Prime Minister Paul Martin increase base
transfers to the provinces for health care by $2 billion in the March 23
federal budget.

They accuse the federal government of purposely understating the

size
of the surplus and short-changing the health-care purse year after year.

Alberta Premier Ralph Klein said his recent musings about possibly
pulling his province out of the Canada Health Act, de-listing some

services
and forgoing federal funding has not reached the point of serious
discussion.

The Premiers agreed that Ontario and British Columbia will come up
with a series of research papers in advance of their next meeting in July.

The two provinces will present their findings on what is driving up
the cost of health care and what long-term funding is needed.

The two provinces will also look at better ways to provide health

care
in remote communities.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said in an interview that he worries
that other initiatives, such as a literacy program, an agreement to break
down inter-provincial barriers and plans to work together on emergency
preparedness will go unnoticed in the seemingly never-ending health-care
fray.




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NOYB February 28th 04 03:53 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag -hey, the slammer arrived.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Noyb:
The slammer arrived today. Nicely made, as are most Penn reels. Instant
anti-reverse, and a totally different drag system than the SS series.
The 460 is about the size of a 6500, with a smaller spool. No lever that
allows reversing the reel...


....which is a good thing, because the only thing that used to break on those
SS's was the anti-reverse. The Slammers seem like they're quite a bit
lighter and tighter than the SS's, but they're supposedly just as easy to
rebuild. All of the benefits of the SS's with none of the negatives! Good
luck.



Tuuk February 28th 04 02:56 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
The Canadian social health care system is going down the drain rather
quickly. Similar to the Canadian social education system. It is ok to visit
a hospital for a runny nose or a flu shot but anything more serious and your
rolling the dice. Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant doctors.
Same thing with the social education system. These are turning into some of
the poorest systems in the world and everyone thinks Canada has the best.
Nope, I can relate this also to the lazy western slob workers, the
unionized. It just so happens that these two industries are heavily
unionized.
One quick story,, An good friend of mine works for the administration at a
hospital, they have 250 administration staff and when Mike Harris was
leading Ontario, he ordered a big cut, this forced the re-engineering of the
administration departments as well as other departments. The admin
department laid off 50% of their department and found out that there was no
back log, no dangers, no reason at all that there was that many staff. It
turns out that all those extra jobs there were simply there for the
employment and provide no value to the firm at all. Even when the staff in
that department was reduced to half, there was still some redundancy and
bureaucracy. It is no wonder why Mike Harris won two majority elections, and
union leaders threatened to kill the man.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm







"NOYB" wrote in message
. com...
From the Toronto Star:

Feb. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM

Premiers fear collapse of health-care system


CAROLINE MALLAN AND DANIEL GIRARD
STAFF REPORTERS

VANCOUVER-Canada's premiers say the health-care system will begin to
self-destruct by the end of the decade without both an overhaul and a cash
influx from the federal Liberals.

At the end of the inaugural meeting of the Council of the

Federation,
the premiers demanded that Prime Minister Paul Martin increase base
transfers to the provinces for health care by $2 billion in the March 23
federal budget.

They accuse the federal government of purposely understating the

size
of the surplus and short-changing the health-care purse year after year.

Alberta Premier Ralph Klein said his recent musings about possibly
pulling his province out of the Canada Health Act, de-listing some

services
and forgoing federal funding has not reached the point of serious
discussion.

The Premiers agreed that Ontario and British Columbia will come up
with a series of research papers in advance of their next meeting in July.

The two provinces will present their findings on what is driving up
the cost of health care and what long-term funding is needed.

The two provinces will also look at better ways to provide health

care
in remote communities.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said in an interview that he worries
that other initiatives, such as a literacy program, an agreement to break
down inter-provincial barriers and plans to work together on emergency
preparedness will go unnoticed in the seemingly never-ending health-care
fray.




http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1077664212935

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No wonder I've been seeing so many Canadians in my practice lately.







Don White February 28th 04 04:09 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant

doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?



Tuuk February 29th 04 12:03 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of value to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant

doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?





Harry Krause February 29th 04 02:55 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of value

to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion

within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting

racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.

Don White February 29th 04 02:02 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Wonder if he has anything to do with ice skating blades?

Harry Krause wrote in message
...


Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Tuuk February 29th 04 02:05 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
See, Harry,, I was waiting for someone to come up with this statement, and
believe me, when you hear someone make this statement it is the BIGGEST sign
that the person making it has no clue of economics. The union slobs make
this statement all the time. And is further proof that unions are
responsible for driving up most of the inflationary factors.

Harry ,, you said,,,

""'Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day'""'

Ok, first of all, can you tell me exactly what city this plant is in? I have
been to most cities across Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, many of the
factories are ISO 9001 Certified. The Nike ones even had air conditioning.
Yes they didn't wear the steel toe, steel shank, green patch government
inspected and insisted boots like you monkeys wear, only to protect
yourselves from your own stupidity but they are much smarter and trust each
other more when working on dangerous equipment.
The .25cent thing, well again, there is no factories that its workers earn
..25cents, and I assume you are working with U.S. dollars here. They are
probably working at for the lowest of employment (because they do have
minimum wage laws) at about or around or equivalent to about 5 U.S. dollars
per day. I know that is unheard of for you union slobs but remember their
rent is probably 25.00 or 30.00 U.S. dollars per month.
So, just because you union slobs can demand and forcefully get massive
increases in your pay, to drive up the costs of everything else around you,
doesn't mean these nations of hard working and honest people are as lazy or
greedy as you.

But your statement there Harry shows your lack of global or macro economic
knowledge, in case you missed it.

Lets look at what else you said,,,,,

""""I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?"'"

Downfall of the Pacific Rim ??? come on Harry,, are you aware of the mass
migration of manufacturing jobs leaving the west for these destinations? All
because of you union slobs? So you say ""downfall"" . Come on Harry, ya
gotta give the head a shake on this one.

Lets look at some other stupidity of your post,, just the one post for now
as I must go play hockey. But lets look at what else you said,,,,,

"""The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.'"""

Now the entire statement lacks intelligence, I mean it sounds intelligent
with the big words you like to use but don't know the real meanings. But you
think you can transfer your lazy union disease or ways over and infect
another country. There is a couple of Prime Ministers I can think of who
would disagree with you, P.M. Thaksin of Thailand, who is just about to
initiate his war on drugs again in his country. Last war on drugs, 2500 drug
dealers were killed. This was only last year. And he is starting again
because some dumb American made a heart bleeding social human rights comment
about it and suggest he stop. And P.M. HU of China, Ya, like your union
pressure will influence that culture. You Harry and your union type would be
sitting on the street corner in Bangkok somewhere with a tin cup. Your
unemployable over here (but because of your collective banding together like
an army) you are given a job, but your lack of skills, greed, lazy, and
stupidity over there, you will not get a job.
Maybe in Mexico your unions can poison their work force, but you will not
succeed in S.E. Asia as your smarts just aint what theirs is.

Lets look at what else you said that was ridiculous,,

"'""and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.""""

Sounds like you are intentionally trying to ruin another country. You unions
are not satisfied until nobody will work. Just because you union slobs can
forcefully secure your job, of putting 4 hex nuts on an engine per hour for
example, because it is your job, well, you think that type of mentality will
survive over there? LOL,,, Ya , probably for about 1 hex nut.

And dont start on the environment either there Harry, because you haven't
the knowledge to take that one forward either. Because the west is the
heaviest polluter and global contributor to such things as the green house
effect and CO2 emissions, etc etc.

So Harry,, Come on,,, you gotta give the head a shake over this one also.


"""






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the

head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year

something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of

value
to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd

need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean

those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion

within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting

racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Harry Krause February 29th 04 02:15 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Tuuk wrote:
See, Harry,, I was waiting for someone to come up with this statement, and
believe me, when you hear someone make this statement it is the BIGGEST sign
that the person making it has no clue of economics. The union slobs make
this statement all the time. And is further proof that unions are
responsible for driving up most of the inflationary factors.

Harry ,, you said,,,

""'Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day'""'

Ok, first of all, can you tell me exactly what city this plant is in? I have
been to most cities across Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, many of the
factories are ISO 9001 Certified. The Nike ones even had air conditioning.
Yes they didn't wear the steel toe, steel shank, green patch government
inspected and insisted boots like you monkeys wear, only to protect
yourselves from your own stupidity but they are much smarter and trust each
other more when working on dangerous equipment.
The .25cent thing, well again, there is no factories that its workers earn
.25cents, and I assume you are working with U.S. dollars here. They are
probably working at for the lowest of employment (because they do have
minimum wage laws) at about or around or equivalent to about 5 U.S. dollars
per day. I know that is unheard of for you union slobs but remember their
rent is probably 25.00 or 30.00 U.S. dollars per month.
So, just because you union slobs can demand and forcefully get massive
increases in your pay, to drive up the costs of everything else around you,
doesn't mean these nations of hard working and honest people are as lazy or
greedy as you.

But your statement there Harry shows your lack of global or macro economic
knowledge, in case you missed it.

Lets look at what else you said,,,,,

""""I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?"'"

Downfall of the Pacific Rim ??? come on Harry,, are you aware of the mass
migration of manufacturing jobs leaving the west for these destinations? All
because of you union slobs? So you say ""downfall"" . Come on Harry, ya
gotta give the head a shake on this one.

Lets look at some other stupidity of your post,, just the one post for now
as I must go play hockey. But lets look at what else you said,,,,,

"""The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.'"""

Now the entire statement lacks intelligence, I mean it sounds intelligent
with the big words you like to use but don't know the real meanings. But you
think you can transfer your lazy union disease or ways over and infect
another country. There is a couple of Prime Ministers I can think of who
would disagree with you, P.M. Thaksin of Thailand, who is just about to
initiate his war on drugs again in his country. Last war on drugs, 2500 drug
dealers were killed. This was only last year. And he is starting again
because some dumb American made a heart bleeding social human rights comment
about it and suggest he stop. And P.M. HU of China, Ya, like your union
pressure will influence that culture. You Harry and your union type would be
sitting on the street corner in Bangkok somewhere with a tin cup. Your
unemployable over here (but because of your collective banding together like
an army) you are given a job, but your lack of skills, greed, lazy, and
stupidity over there, you will not get a job.
Maybe in Mexico your unions can poison their work force, but you will not
succeed in S.E. Asia as your smarts just aint what theirs is.

Lets look at what else you said that was ridiculous,,

"'""and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.""""

Sounds like you are intentionally trying to ruin another country. You unions
are not satisfied until nobody will work. Just because you union slobs can
forcefully secure your job, of putting 4 hex nuts on an engine per hour for
example, because it is your job, well, you think that type of mentality will
survive over there? LOL,,, Ya , probably for about 1 hex nut.

And dont start on the environment either there Harry, because you haven't
the knowledge to take that one forward either. Because the west is the
heaviest polluter and global contributor to such things as the green house
effect and CO2 emissions, etc etc.

So Harry,, Come on,,, you gotta give the head a shake over this one also.


"""






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the

head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year

something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of

value
to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd

need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean

those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion
within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting
racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Well, it took me awhile, but I figured it out. "Tuuk" is just Karen
Smith of Australia using another identity. And even if he/she isn't,
he/she is.

Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.

NOYB February 29th 04 02:39 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tuuk wrote:
See, Harry,, I was waiting for someone to come up with this statement,

and
believe me, when you hear someone make this statement it is the BIGGEST

sign
that the person making it has no clue of economics. The union slobs make
this statement all the time. And is further proof that unions are
responsible for driving up most of the inflationary factors.

Harry ,, you said,,,

""'Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day'""'

Ok, first of all, can you tell me exactly what city this plant is in? I

have
been to most cities across Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, many of

the
factories are ISO 9001 Certified. The Nike ones even had air

conditioning.
Yes they didn't wear the steel toe, steel shank, green patch government
inspected and insisted boots like you monkeys wear, only to protect
yourselves from your own stupidity but they are much smarter and trust

each
other more when working on dangerous equipment.
The .25cent thing, well again, there is no factories that its workers

earn
.25cents, and I assume you are working with U.S. dollars here. They are
probably working at for the lowest of employment (because they do have
minimum wage laws) at about or around or equivalent to about 5 U.S.

dollars
per day. I know that is unheard of for you union slobs but remember

their
rent is probably 25.00 or 30.00 U.S. dollars per month.
So, just because you union slobs can demand and forcefully get massive
increases in your pay, to drive up the costs of everything else around

you,
doesn't mean these nations of hard working and honest people are as lazy

or
greedy as you.

But your statement there Harry shows your lack of global or macro

economic
knowledge, in case you missed it.

Lets look at what else you said,,,,,

""""I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?"'"

Downfall of the Pacific Rim ??? come on Harry,, are you aware of the

mass
migration of manufacturing jobs leaving the west for these destinations?

All
because of you union slobs? So you say ""downfall"" . Come on Harry, ya
gotta give the head a shake on this one.

Lets look at some other stupidity of your post,, just the one post for

now
as I must go play hockey. But lets look at what else you said,,,,,

"""The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.'"""

Now the entire statement lacks intelligence, I mean it sounds

intelligent
with the big words you like to use but don't know the real meanings. But

you
think you can transfer your lazy union disease or ways over and infect
another country. There is a couple of Prime Ministers I can think of who
would disagree with you, P.M. Thaksin of Thailand, who is just about to
initiate his war on drugs again in his country. Last war on drugs, 2500

drug
dealers were killed. This was only last year. And he is starting again
because some dumb American made a heart bleeding social human rights

comment
about it and suggest he stop. And P.M. HU of China, Ya, like your union
pressure will influence that culture. You Harry and your union type

would be
sitting on the street corner in Bangkok somewhere with a tin cup. Your
unemployable over here (but because of your collective banding together

like
an army) you are given a job, but your lack of skills, greed, lazy, and
stupidity over there, you will not get a job.
Maybe in Mexico your unions can poison their work force, but you will

not
succeed in S.E. Asia as your smarts just aint what theirs is.

Lets look at what else you said that was ridiculous,,

"'""and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.""""

Sounds like you are intentionally trying to ruin another country. You

unions
are not satisfied until nobody will work. Just because you union slobs

can
forcefully secure your job, of putting 4 hex nuts on an engine per hour

for
example, because it is your job, well, you think that type of mentality

will
survive over there? LOL,,, Ya , probably for about 1 hex nut.

And dont start on the environment either there Harry, because you

haven't
the knowledge to take that one forward either. Because the west is the
heaviest polluter and global contributor to such things as the green

house
effect and CO2 emissions, etc etc.

So Harry,, Come on,,, you gotta give the head a shake over this one

also.


"""






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the

head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally

lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door

policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year

something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of

value
to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union

crowd
need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean

those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on

compassion
within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting
racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many

immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the

door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in

the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Well, it took me awhile, but I figured it out. "Tuuk" is just Karen
Smith of Australia using another identity. And even if he/she isn't,
he/she is.

Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.


Soundly beaten, basskisser...uh, ummm....I mean Harry quietly retreats.

You two are both so predictable.



Bert Robbins February 29th 04 03:36 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
When you can argue the poins insult the other side.

Nice job Harry, you have proved your nothing but a PR flack whose oral
effluent should be thrown in the toilet and flushed.

Bert




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tuuk wrote:
See, Harry,, I was waiting for someone to come up with this statement,

and
believe me, when you hear someone make this statement it is the BIGGEST

sign
that the person making it has no clue of economics. The union slobs make
this statement all the time. And is further proof that unions are
responsible for driving up most of the inflationary factors.

Harry ,, you said,,,

""'Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day'""'

Ok, first of all, can you tell me exactly what city this plant is in? I

have
been to most cities across Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, many of

the
factories are ISO 9001 Certified. The Nike ones even had air

conditioning.
Yes they didn't wear the steel toe, steel shank, green patch government
inspected and insisted boots like you monkeys wear, only to protect
yourselves from your own stupidity but they are much smarter and trust

each
other more when working on dangerous equipment.
The .25cent thing, well again, there is no factories that its workers

earn
.25cents, and I assume you are working with U.S. dollars here. They are
probably working at for the lowest of employment (because they do have
minimum wage laws) at about or around or equivalent to about 5 U.S.

dollars
per day. I know that is unheard of for you union slobs but remember

their
rent is probably 25.00 or 30.00 U.S. dollars per month.
So, just because you union slobs can demand and forcefully get massive
increases in your pay, to drive up the costs of everything else around

you,
doesn't mean these nations of hard working and honest people are as lazy

or
greedy as you.

But your statement there Harry shows your lack of global or macro

economic
knowledge, in case you missed it.

Lets look at what else you said,,,,,

""""I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?"'"

Downfall of the Pacific Rim ??? come on Harry,, are you aware of the

mass
migration of manufacturing jobs leaving the west for these destinations?

All
because of you union slobs? So you say ""downfall"" . Come on Harry, ya
gotta give the head a shake on this one.

Lets look at some other stupidity of your post,, just the one post for

now
as I must go play hockey. But lets look at what else you said,,,,,

"""The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.'"""

Now the entire statement lacks intelligence, I mean it sounds

intelligent
with the big words you like to use but don't know the real meanings. But

you
think you can transfer your lazy union disease or ways over and infect
another country. There is a couple of Prime Ministers I can think of who
would disagree with you, P.M. Thaksin of Thailand, who is just about to
initiate his war on drugs again in his country. Last war on drugs, 2500

drug
dealers were killed. This was only last year. And he is starting again
because some dumb American made a heart bleeding social human rights

comment
about it and suggest he stop. And P.M. HU of China, Ya, like your union
pressure will influence that culture. You Harry and your union type

would be
sitting on the street corner in Bangkok somewhere with a tin cup. Your
unemployable over here (but because of your collective banding together

like
an army) you are given a job, but your lack of skills, greed, lazy, and
stupidity over there, you will not get a job.
Maybe in Mexico your unions can poison their work force, but you will

not
succeed in S.E. Asia as your smarts just aint what theirs is.

Lets look at what else you said that was ridiculous,,

"'""and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.""""

Sounds like you are intentionally trying to ruin another country. You

unions
are not satisfied until nobody will work. Just because you union slobs

can
forcefully secure your job, of putting 4 hex nuts on an engine per hour

for
example, because it is your job, well, you think that type of mentality

will
survive over there? LOL,,, Ya , probably for about 1 hex nut.

And dont start on the environment either there Harry, because you

haven't
the knowledge to take that one forward either. Because the west is the
heaviest polluter and global contributor to such things as the green

house
effect and CO2 emissions, etc etc.

So Harry,, Come on,,, you gotta give the head a shake over this one

also.


"""






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the

head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally

lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door

policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year

something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of

value
to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union

crowd
need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean

those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on

compassion
within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting
racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many

immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the

door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in

the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Well, it took me awhile, but I figured it out. "Tuuk" is just Karen
Smith of Australia using another identity. And even if he/she isn't,
he/she is.

Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.




John H February 29th 04 04:55 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:15:13 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Tuuk wrote:
See, Harry,, I was waiting for someone to come up with this statement, and
believe me, when you hear someone make this statement it is the BIGGEST sign
that the person making it has no clue of economics. The union slobs make
this statement all the time. And is further proof that unions are
responsible for driving up most of the inflationary factors.

Harry ,, you said,,,

""'Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day'""'

Ok, first of all, can you tell me exactly what city this plant is in? I have
been to most cities across Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, many of the
factories are ISO 9001 Certified. The Nike ones even had air conditioning.
Yes they didn't wear the steel toe, steel shank, green patch government
inspected and insisted boots like you monkeys wear, only to protect
yourselves from your own stupidity but they are much smarter and trust each
other more when working on dangerous equipment.
The .25cent thing, well again, there is no factories that its workers earn
.25cents, and I assume you are working with U.S. dollars here. They are
probably working at for the lowest of employment (because they do have
minimum wage laws) at about or around or equivalent to about 5 U.S. dollars
per day. I know that is unheard of for you union slobs but remember their
rent is probably 25.00 or 30.00 U.S. dollars per month.
So, just because you union slobs can demand and forcefully get massive
increases in your pay, to drive up the costs of everything else around you,
doesn't mean these nations of hard working and honest people are as lazy or
greedy as you.

But your statement there Harry shows your lack of global or macro economic
knowledge, in case you missed it.

Lets look at what else you said,,,,,

""""I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?"'"

Downfall of the Pacific Rim ??? come on Harry,, are you aware of the mass
migration of manufacturing jobs leaving the west for these destinations? All
because of you union slobs? So you say ""downfall"" . Come on Harry, ya
gotta give the head a shake on this one.

Lets look at some other stupidity of your post,, just the one post for now
as I must go play hockey. But lets look at what else you said,,,,,

"""The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.'"""

Now the entire statement lacks intelligence, I mean it sounds intelligent
with the big words you like to use but don't know the real meanings. But you
think you can transfer your lazy union disease or ways over and infect
another country. There is a couple of Prime Ministers I can think of who
would disagree with you, P.M. Thaksin of Thailand, who is just about to
initiate his war on drugs again in his country. Last war on drugs, 2500 drug
dealers were killed. This was only last year. And he is starting again
because some dumb American made a heart bleeding social human rights comment
about it and suggest he stop. And P.M. HU of China, Ya, like your union
pressure will influence that culture. You Harry and your union type would be
sitting on the street corner in Bangkok somewhere with a tin cup. Your
unemployable over here (but because of your collective banding together like
an army) you are given a job, but your lack of skills, greed, lazy, and
stupidity over there, you will not get a job.
Maybe in Mexico your unions can poison their work force, but you will not
succeed in S.E. Asia as your smarts just aint what theirs is.

Lets look at what else you said that was ridiculous,,

"'""and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.""""

Sounds like you are intentionally trying to ruin another country. You unions
are not satisfied until nobody will work. Just because you union slobs can
forcefully secure your job, of putting 4 hex nuts on an engine per hour for
example, because it is your job, well, you think that type of mentality will
survive over there? LOL,,, Ya , probably for about 1 hex nut.

And dont start on the environment either there Harry, because you haven't
the knowledge to take that one forward either. Because the west is the
heaviest polluter and global contributor to such things as the green house
effect and CO2 emissions, etc etc.

So Harry,, Come on,,, you gotta give the head a shake over this one also.


"""






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the

head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year

something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of

value
to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd

need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean

those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion
within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting
racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.




Well, it took me awhile, but I figured it out. "Tuuk" is just Karen
Smith of Australia using another identity. And even if he/she isn't,
he/she is.

Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.


And, like Karen, he is a very capable mosquito swatter!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause February 29th 04 09:43 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
When you can argue the poins insult the other side.

Nice job Harry, you have proved your nothing but a PR flack whose oral
effluent should be thrown in the toilet and flushed.

Bert


No purpose is served in responding to rabid right-wingers with anything
more than a throw-away line. Why would I want to get down in the pigslop
where Tuuk lives?

Backyard Renegade March 1st 04 12:45 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
"Don White" wrote in message ...
Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant

doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?



Don't change the subject Harry, er, uh, Don...

Florida Keyz March 1st 04 12:48 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
If you post O.T.your a dumbazz,if you post o.t. with a false name , you are a
coward and and Azhole!

Don White March 1st 04 12:49 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 

Backyard Renegade wrote in message
om...
"Don White" wrote in message

...
Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant

doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?



Don't change the subject Harry, er, uh, Don...


What's the matter?....... getting confused Backdoor Man?



Harry Krause March 1st 04 01:00 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Don White wrote:
Backyard Renegade wrote in message
om...
"Don White" wrote in message

...
Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?



Don't change the subject Harry, er, uh, Don...


What's the matter?....... getting confused Backdoor Man?



Hard to miss how dumb and inarticulate so many of the righties who post
here are...

Backyard Renegade March 1st 04 01:04 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Harry Krause wrote in message ...
Don White wrote:

Just throwing some of your crap back in your face. Now go 'shake the head'.

Tuuk wrote in message
...
White Don, you gotta give the head a shake for that one, totally lacks
intelligence. Actually borderline racists on your part.
I will explain further for you, in Canada there is an open door policy,
Canada wants to attract 500,000 immigrants per year, last year something
like 230,000 were accepted. Those allowed in must have some type of value

to
add to the country, they must have a skill or trade (your union crowd need
not apply) and must agree to certain things. So, this doesn't mean those
arriving on boats are all sent back, there is a chapter on compassion

within
the act.
So, where were you, o ya, about you being a moron for suggesting

racism,,,,,
duh,,,, is that your final answer?






"Don White" wrote in message
...

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip most of usual crap
Most of the leading doctors have migrated south to better
paying positions, leaving us with younger doctors or many immigrant
doctors.

Are you some kind of 'racist' idiot?
What do you have against immigrant doctors?







Perhaps Tuuk is a low-level shop foreman in some bloody awful Nike
sneaker plant somewhere on the Pacific Rim where the workers earn 25
cents a day and the overseers live in fear of a union coming to the door
and insisting the workers deserve a dollar a day. I mean, that would be
the downfall of the Pacific Rim, right?


**** you bitch, shop foreman, union or not, have more pride and value
than some old union gofer will ever have. Your ignorance and
intolerance for hard working Americans who do not pay your way is
pathetic. I have done something you have never done, worked side by
side with the rank and file, on the docks. And if you say you did, all
the more proof as anyone knows brothers who go up to other side are
the worst scabs of all, and anyone with a brain knows that the "union
management" from Business agents up are really bought and paid for by
the Corp dogs to keep a barrier of lies and insecurity between the
company and the employees, feeding the brothers just enough info to
make the simple think they are on the same side. You are a racist,
intolerant, lazy, lieing, cowardly, and probably ugly too Harry, why
anyone would even address your lies is beyond me...




The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


Harry Krause March 1st 04 01:11 AM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Backyard Renegade wrote:

**** you bitch, shop foreman, union or not, have more pride and value
than some old union gofer will ever have. Your ignorance and
intolerance for hard working Americans who do not pay your way is
pathetic.


Wow...talk about a hot button.


I have done something you have never done, worked side by
side with the rank and file, on the docks.


Doubtful. You're too unbalanced to pass a psychological examination.




And if you say you did, all
the more proof as anyone knows brothers who go up to other side are
the worst scabs of all, and anyone with a brain knows that the "union
management" from Business agents up are really bought and paid for by
the Corp dogs to keep a barrier of lies and insecurity between the
company and the employees, feeding the brothers just enough info to
make the simple think they are on the same side.



Wow...and you're paranoid, too.

You are a racist,
intolerant, lazy, lieing, cowardly, and probably ugly too Harry, why
anyone would even address your lies is beyond me...


Most of life is beyond you.

As I stated previously, it is interesting how many of you righties are
inarticulate and downright stupid. You're in that group.

Henry Blackmoore March 1st 04 07:11 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , Harry Krause wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.



well spoken by a communist ****....


Harry Krause March 1st 04 10:45 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
Henry Blackmoore wrote:

In article , Harry Krause wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.



well spoken by a communist ****....



As if you had any knowledge of what Turner wrote and how it might apply.

Henry Blackmoore March 2nd 04 07:30 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , Harry Krause wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote:

In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.



well spoken by a communist ****....



As if you had any knowledge of what Turner wrote and how it might apply.


I might surprise you! Did they make it into a MTV video yet??

Go soak yourself in a bathtub full of Visine old man...



basskisser March 4th 04 07:45 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.



well spoken by a communist ****....


What an unintelligent answer.

basskisser March 4th 04 07:47 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
John H wrote in message
Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.


And, like Karen, he is a very capable mosquito swatter!

John H

And you are the king of the pesky, nasty little gnats.

John H March 4th 04 08:30 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
On 4 Mar 2004 11:47:17 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message
Therefore, there's no need to respond with anything more than a one liner.


And, like Karen, he is a very capable mosquito swatter!

John H

And you are the king of the pesky, nasty little gnats.


Thanks!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Henry Blackmoore March 4th 04 09:44 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , (basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.



well spoken by a communist ****....


What an unintelligent answer.


Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P



Tuuk March 5th 04 03:42 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,





"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
link.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of

all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in

the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


well spoken by a communist ****....


What an unintelligent answer.


Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P





basskisser March 5th 04 07:34 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article ,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


well spoken by a communist ****....


What an unintelligent answer.


Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P


Going back and hunting down your posts? You posted that recently. I
think that anyone who would call someone a "communist ****" without
knowing anything about that person except for a few lines in a
newsgroup is at best shallow minded, and at worst, truly ignorant.

basskisser March 5th 04 07:35 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,


Speaking of swift, there, Tuuk, what WAS the question you asked me?
AND I've proven once again, you don't know ****. You stated, at
different times, that I was a union member, and you were 100% wrong.

Henry Blackmoore March 5th 04 07:54 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , " Tuuk" wrote:

No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,


But 'asskisser is a man on a mission. He has copy & paste skills!
(he is working on "cut")






"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner

thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of

all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in

the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


well spoken by a communist ****....

What an unintelligent answer.


Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P





Henry Blackmoore March 5th 04 07:55 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , (basskisser) wrote:

" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,


Speaking of swift, there, Tuuk, what WAS the question you asked me?
AND I've proven once again, you don't know ****.


He knows you don't he?

You stated, at
different times, that I was a union member, and you were 100% wrong.


Pothead...



Henry Blackmoore March 5th 04 07:58 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
In article , (basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


well spoken by a communist ****....

What an unintelligent answer.


Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P


Going back and hunting down your posts? You posted that recently. I
think that anyone who would call someone a "communist ****" without
knowing anything about that person except for a few lines in a
newsgroup is at best shallow minded, and at worst, truly ignorant.


"Without knowing anything"? About Krause? That's a laugh. Anybody
that has been here any length of time knows his socialist ideals. Like
redistribution of the wealth via income tax. He is also an atheist.

"communist ****" is an appropriate label fishkisser.

Smoked any weed today?





basskisser March 8th 04 08:20 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article ,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article ,

(basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article , Harry Krause

wrote:

The resolution of job flight may well be an adjunct of the Turner thesis
on the settlement of the American west. At some point, the wages of all
of those in the developing countries will be about equal to those in the
Western world, and there will be no place left for the exploitative
capitalist to run.


well spoken by a communist ****....

What an unintelligent answer.

Are you a man (mouse?) with a vendatta of sorts now 'asskisser?
Going back and hunting down my posts so that you can add
your two cents? LOL I must have hit a nerve with ya eh?

Cya!
:^P


Going back and hunting down your posts? You posted that recently. I
think that anyone who would call someone a "communist ****" without
knowing anything about that person except for a few lines in a
newsgroup is at best shallow minded, and at worst, truly ignorant.


"Without knowing anything"? About Krause? That's a laugh. Anybody
that has been here any length of time knows his socialist ideals. Like
redistribution of the wealth via income tax. He is also an atheist.

"communist ****" is an appropriate label fishkisser.

Smoked any weed today?


Please show any proof that backs up your wild allegations that I
"smoke weed". True republican, make stupid allegations without any
regard to substance.

basskisser March 8th 04 08:21 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article ,
(basskisser) wrote:

" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,


Speaking of swift, there, Tuuk, what WAS the question you asked me?
AND I've proven once again, you don't know ****.


He knows you don't he?

You stated, at
different times, that I was a union member, and you were 100% wrong.


Pothead...


You are showing true ignorance, once again. Please provide any
evidence you may have that I'm a "pothead".

basskisser March 8th 04 08:22 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message thlink.net...
In article , " Tuuk" wrote:

No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,


But 'asskisser is a man on a mission. He has copy & paste skills!
(he is working on "cut")


And you are truly ignorant.

John H March 8th 04 08:33 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
On 8 Mar 2004 12:21:14 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article ,
(basskisser) wrote:

" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,

Speaking of swift, there, Tuuk, what WAS the question you asked me?
AND I've proven once again, you don't know ****.


He knows you don't he?

You stated, at
different times, that I was a union member, and you were 100% wrong.


Pothead...


You are showing true ignorance, once again. Please provide any
evidence you may have that I'm a "pothead".


Go back and read your last 37 posts. You will convince yourself.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser March 9th 04 01:29 PM

OT-And Canadian's bag on *our* healthcare system!?!
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 8 Mar 2004 12:21:14 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message hlink.net...
In article ,
(basskisser) wrote:

" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
No, you didn't hit a nerve with asskisser, you just pointed out his
ignorance, that just starts the ball a rolling with him, (or her).
Not too swift that boy,,,,,,

Speaking of swift, there, Tuuk, what WAS the question you asked me?
AND I've proven once again, you don't know ****.

He knows you don't he?

You stated, at
different times, that I was a union member, and you were 100% wrong.

Pothead...


You are showing true ignorance, once again. Please provide any
evidence you may have that I'm a "pothead".


Go back and read your last 37 posts. You will convince yourself.

John H

Again, John, please show any evidence to back up your wild allegations
that I'm a "pothead". And while you're at it, let's test your recent
dillusion, and post the name of the person you spoke to at Yamaha,
USA.


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