"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/...ger/index.html


Salon.com, eh? Are they getting their news from moveon.org?





You ought to read some of the quotes in that piece, especially the ones
from GOP Pollster Luntz:

``They really have a head of steam up against Bush,'' said Andrew Kohut,
director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. He said
the level of political polarization surrounding Bush, the division
between Republicans who favor him and Democrats who don't, exceeds even
that for President Clinton in September 1998 during the impeachment
battle.

Which is precisely why it won't matter. When all was said and done, the
Democrats circled their wagons and protected their man.


Plenty of presidents have generated intense feelings, of course, but
Democrats -- and even some Republicans -- think the phenomenon is
outsized this year.

``I've never seen a Democratic Party more unified and more focused, and
the anger helps do just that,'' said GOP pollster Frank Luntz.

Hate is a powerful motivator...and God knows, the Democrats are the party of
hate and divisiveness. Hell, they almost have a monopoly on it...so it's no
surprise, really, that hate is the emotion that drives them.

``The
intensity level is just so high. They're using four-letter words to
describe him.''

In a recent focus group that Luntz conducted for MSNBC, technicians had
to adjust the volume levels because the Bush-haters were ``so gosh-darn
loud'' they were drowning out the president's supporters, who were more
numerous, Luntz said. ``It was a real problem.''

The Bush supporters "were more numerous". That's all that really matters.
Screaming louder than the other guys gets you nowhere.




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Delightful.

You enjoy being associated with a party whose sole platform is "hatred"?

"NOYB" wrote in message news:Xnc_b.78599

The Bush supporters "were more numerous". That's all that really matters.
Screaming louder than the other guys gets you nowhere.

But you forget......

"Gore won the popular vote"! whine, whine "Gore won the popular vote"!

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message news:Xnc_b.78599

The Bush supporters "were more numerous". That's all that really matters.
Screaming louder than the other guys gets you nowhere.

But you forget......

"Gore won the popular vote"! whine, whine "Gore won the popular vote"!

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies. There has been no attempt to consider the
desires of the majority of voters who didn't vote for the rascal.

bb

"bb" wrote in message

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies.
A) I never heard anyone claim that W received a mandate in the election of
2000.

B) W received his mandate on the morning of September 11, 2001.

C) You may consider some or all of his policies "extremist", but that is
your personal opinion, not general fact.

There has been no attempt to consider the
desires of the majority of voters who didn't vote for the rascal.

D) It may have slipped your attention, but we do not live in a democracy,
wherein the voters are consulted on virtually all matters. We live in a
Constitutional Republic. We send elected persons to staff the government
and to make decisions according to their best judgment. If we don't like
their judgment, we vote them out the next time around. This business of
consulting focus groups, or directly polling constituents, prior to any
decision-making, is, in my view, an abdication of responsibility under the
Constitution.

John Gaquin wrote:

"bb" wrote in message

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies.
A) I never heard anyone claim that W received a mandate in the election of
2000.

B) W received his mandate on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Bull. No one gave Bush carte blanche to go crazy with his brand of
right-wing extremism.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c1e347

...to go crazy with his brand of
right-wing extremism.

Ref Answer C, above.

In article , Harry Krause wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"bb" wrote in message

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies.
A) I never heard anyone claim that W received a mandate in the election of
2000.

B) W received his mandate on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Bull. No one gave Bush carte blanche to go crazy with his brand of
right-wing extremism.

don't delude yourself.

Bush is a ferking moderate....

"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"bb" wrote in message

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies.
A) I never heard anyone claim that W received a mandate in the election of
2000.

B) W received his mandate on the morning of September 11, 2001.

C) You may consider some or all of his policies "extremist", but that is
your personal opinion, not general fact.

There has been no attempt to consider the
desires of the majority of voters who didn't vote for the rascal.

D) It may have slipped your attention, but we do not live in a democracy,
wherein the voters are consulted on virtually all matters. We live in a
Constitutional Republic. We send elected persons to staff the government
and to make decisions according to their best judgment. If we don't like
their judgment, we vote them out the next time around. This business of
consulting focus groups, or directly polling constituents, prior to any
decision-making, is, in my view, an abdication of responsibility under the
Constitution.

I just love how, no matter WHAT a republican does, the fellow
republicans just CAN'T seem to say, "he messed up", or "he was wrong".
It's that same tow the line, blinders on, goose stepping crap that
leads you guys to call anyone who disagrees with Bush a "traitor", or
a "communist", and on and on. Funny how BushCo, whom you guys refer to
as a UNITER, has this country the most divided that it's ever been!

basskisser wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...

"bb" wrote in message

Ok, Bush won the Presidency. But, he certainly didn't win a mandate
for his extremist policies.

A) I never heard anyone claim that W received a mandate in the election of
2000.

B) W received his mandate on the morning of September 11, 2001.

C) You may consider some or all of his policies "extremist", but that is
your personal opinion, not general fact.

There has been no attempt to consider the

desires of the majority of voters who didn't vote for the rascal.

D) It may have slipped your attention, but we do not live in a democracy,
wherein the voters are consulted on virtually all matters. We live in a
Constitutional Republic. We send elected persons to staff the government
and to make decisions according to their best judgment. If we don't like
their judgment, we vote them out the next time around. This business of
consulting focus groups, or directly polling constituents, prior to any
decision-making, is, in my view, an abdication of responsibility under the
Constitution.


I just love how, no matter WHAT a republican does, the fellow
republicans just CAN'T seem to say, "he messed up", or "he was wrong".
It's that same tow the line, blinders on, goose stepping crap that
leads you guys to call anyone who disagrees with Bush a "traitor", or
a "communist", and on and on. Funny how BushCo, whom you guys refer to
as a UNITER, has this country the most divided that it's ever been!

Gotta disagree with this last statement. The country was more divided
in the 1850s and 60s with the civil war, but this comes next (at least
so far)

In article , (basskisser) wrote:



I just love how, no matter WHAT a democrat does, the fellow
democrats just CAN'T seem to say, "he messed up", or "he was wrong".
It's that same tow the line, blinders on, goose stepping crap that
leads you guys to call anyone who disagrees with Clinton a "traitor", or
a "right-wing extremist", and on and on. Funny how Slick Willie & Co, whom you
guys refer to as a UNITER, has this country the most divided that it's ever
been!


LOL