Harry,
You are the one who actually published what you though was Skippers place of
employment, (a garage door installer). I love the watch those most guilty
running around saying "It wasn't me".




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Me again posted:

Chuck,
When you published info on Skipper being Dave Mann from Derby Kansas
were
you stalking him.

When you published JimH's name and address where you stalking him?

****************************

Skippers identity and hometown were common knowledge in the NG for
years, and it was certainly not I who spilled the beans. While
Skipper's identity was still semi-secret in the NG, he visited me in
Seattle, introduced himself and his wife, and I had his name, street
address, and phone number. During that time I kept his confidence,
despite our many disagreements. After he acknowledged his name and
hometown in the group, I no longer felt required to keep it secret. You
are mistaken on this point.


As a point of fact, Skipper posted his name, address and telephone number
several times in a computer newsgroup where he was seeking help for some
sort problem and wanted a phone call.

I had Skipper's "particulars" for years; we sent each other various
boating magazines. He sent me a subscription to a West Coast boating
magazine.

Surprised? You shouldn't be. I've said many times that though I had my
"disputes" with Skipper, most of them were for effect, and that I thought
he was by far the brightest of the righties, and about the only one who
could write.

I'd trade away most of the righties here for the return of Skipper and his
Bilgeliner. In a New York minute.



As far as your accusation that I posted Jim H's name and address to the
NG- you are either mistaken or a liar. Let's go with "mistaken" to give
you the benefit of the doubt.
The first time I remember JimH's name, street address, and phone number
appearing in the NG it was attached to some SPAM about a boat he had
for sale (a Maxum IIRC).


That's correct. Further, it was Hertvik himself who "revealed" his wife
gave up her teaching job because of a health condition.

Wasn't it Hertvik who posted here as "Dennis"? And also as his "son Jeff"
when he wanted to behave really badly?

But I could be wrong. Want to have some fun? $50 to the RNC, from me,
if you can show me posting JimH's name and street address to the
Newsgroup. $50 to Muscular Dystrophy, from you, if you cannot. Fair
enough? Very simple test- did I post JimH's name and street address as
you claim, or not?

You know, of course, that "Smithers" is now also using anonymizers to add
to his repertoire of deceit? He was especially active a couple days this
past week.

It's really too bad this newsgroup has become "Tuukerized"




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Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
Chuck,

I am not going to bother doing a Google, but you and JimH were in a little
disagreement and you responded to JimH, with the something like the
following comment:

Someone from Avon Lakes spewed vile :

(here was JimH's comment)

Then you used his last name to respond:

Hert......,

and then used your rapier wit to belittle him.



wrote in message
ups.com...
Me again posted:

Chuck,
When you published info on Skipper being Dave Mann from Derby Kansas
were
you stalking him.

When you published JimH's name and address where you stalking him?

****************************

Skippers identity and hometown were common knowledge in the NG for
years, and it was certainly not I who spilled the beans. While
Skipper's identity was still semi-secret in the NG, he visited me in
Seattle, introduced himself and his wife, and I had his name, street
address, and phone number. During that time I kept his confidence,
despite our many disagreements. After he acknowledged his name and
hometown in the group, I no longer felt required to keep it secret. You
are mistaken on this point.

As far as your accusation that I posted Jim H's name and address to the
NG- you are either mistaken or a liar. Let's go with "mistaken" to give
you the benefit of the doubt.
The first time I remember JimH's name, street address, and phone number
appearing in the NG it was attached to some SPAM about a boat he had
for sale (a Maxum IIRC).

Bull****. I never posted anything other than a link to my website that had
details of the boat and perhaps my home phone number. And that was in the
market place of rec.boats or some similar legitimate site.

Don't you dare pin this on me Chuck. Krause is the one who stalked me and
found out my address and posted it here.


Someone then went to the bother of looking up my personal informatio
IIRC it was JimH, himself, who posted the link. If Harry reposted the
same information at a later date, I'm almost certain he would have
obtained it from the original disclosure made by the party (whom I
remember as JimH) who ran his "for sale" ad in the NG.


The boats was listed in the legitimate NG used to post boats and boat
equipment. You know that.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
Chuck,

I am not going to bother doing a Google, but you and JimH were in a
little disagreement and you responded to JimH, with the something like
the following comment:

Someone from Avon Lakes spewed vile :

(here was JimH's comment)

Then you used his last name to respond:

Hert......,

and then used your rapier wit to belittle him.



wrote in message
ups.com...
Me again posted:

Chuck,
When you published info on Skipper being Dave Mann from Derby Kansas
were
you stalking him.

When you published JimH's name and address where you stalking him?

****************************

Skippers identity and hometown were common knowledge in the NG for
years, and it was certainly not I who spilled the beans. While
Skipper's identity was still semi-secret in the NG, he visited me in
Seattle, introduced himself and his wife, and I had his name, street
address, and phone number. During that time I kept his confidence,
despite our many disagreements. After he acknowledged his name and
hometown in the group, I no longer felt required to keep it secret. You
are mistaken on this point.

As far as your accusation that I posted Jim H's name and address to the
NG- you are either mistaken or a liar. Let's go with "mistaken" to give
you the benefit of the doubt.
The first time I remember JimH's name, street address, and phone number
appearing in the NG it was attached to some SPAM about a boat he had
for sale (a Maxum IIRC).

Bull****. I never posted anything other than a link to my website that
had details of the boat and perhaps my home phone number. And that was in
the market place of rec.boats or some similar legitimate site.

I found it. The site was rec.boats.marketplace

According to Chuck anyone posting there is spamming.




Don't you dare pin this on me Chuck. Krause is the one who stalked me and
found out my address and posted it here.


Someone then went to the bother of looking up my personal informatio
IIRC it was JimH, himself, who posted the link. If Harry reposted the
same information at a later date, I'm almost certain he would have
obtained it from the original disclosure made by the party (whom I
remember as JimH) who ran his "for sale" ad in the NG.


The boats was listed in the legitimate NG used to post boats and boat
equipment. You know that.

rec.boat.marketplace. If one chooses to chase a phone number to find an
address to post that address in rec.boats and then proceed to make personal
threats to that person and his wife...and if that person takes the trouble
to obtain a picture of ones house.....that person is a stalker and needs
help.

Harry Krause is indeed that person.

As far as posting information about my wife's medical condition, yes that is
true. But who in their right mind would then make jokes about it?

Harry Krause is indeed that person.

As I said Chuck, don't you dare start spreading lies about how my address
was posted here.

It truly is sad that you find it necessary to continuously support such a
madman.

Enough said.

Harry,

The first time I published any information concerning you, is when you
published personal info on JimH. For months you keep telling JimH you knew
his personal info and anyone who wanted to find out could do so easily, but
you were not going to do it. You mentioned the area of Lake Erie he lived
on, then mentioned you saw his house was for sale, then finally when no one
would take your bait, you published his name and address. It was at that
point I showed you how easy it was to find out info, based upon the
information you have provided in rec.boats.

You wonder why people treat you the way you do, when you spent a year
harassing someone about bestiality, for no other reason than it ****ed him
off. People treat you as a low life, because you are a low life.




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Me Again wrote:
Harry,
You are the one who actually published what you though was Skippers place
of employment, (a garage door installer). I love the watch those most
guilty running around saying "It wasn't me".


I unburied you for the moment because I'm following Gould's comments on
your behavior. Don't get excited, though. You and your 3,000
trouble-making alias will be back in the dumpster shortly.

Dave worked in the aerospace industry in the Wichita area, which I knew. I
didn't know which company he worked for until recently,

My comments about his garage door business were in the same league as my
comments about his model airplane business, his computer repair business
and one other occupation I claimed he had.

You mentioned the other day I accused you of having sex with sheep, then
when I mentioned the name of Roger Huebner, you clammed up. He lived in
New Jersey and your posting host is there. You pull some of the same
antics he did. Mildly interesting.






--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

JimH,

I think what bothered me the most was Harry's comments about your wife's
health.


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
Chuck,

I am not going to bother doing a Google, but you and JimH were in a
little disagreement and you responded to JimH, with the something like
the following comment:

Someone from Avon Lakes spewed vile :

(here was JimH's comment)

Then you used his last name to respond:

Hert......,

and then used your rapier wit to belittle him.



wrote in message
ups.com...
Me again posted:

Chuck,
When you published info on Skipper being Dave Mann from Derby Kansas
were
you stalking him.

When you published JimH's name and address where you stalking him?

****************************

Skippers identity and hometown were common knowledge in the NG for
years, and it was certainly not I who spilled the beans. While
Skipper's identity was still semi-secret in the NG, he visited me in
Seattle, introduced himself and his wife, and I had his name, street
address, and phone number. During that time I kept his confidence,
despite our many disagreements. After he acknowledged his name and
hometown in the group, I no longer felt required to keep it secret. You
are mistaken on this point.

As far as your accusation that I posted Jim H's name and address to the
NG- you are either mistaken or a liar. Let's go with "mistaken" to give
you the benefit of the doubt.
The first time I remember JimH's name, street address, and phone number
appearing in the NG it was attached to some SPAM about a boat he had
for sale (a Maxum IIRC).

Bull****. I never posted anything other than a link to my website that
had details of the boat and perhaps my home phone number. And that was
in the market place of rec.boats or some similar legitimate site.

I found it. The site was rec.boats.marketplace

According to Chuck anyone posting there is spamming.




Don't you dare pin this on me Chuck. Krause is the one who stalked me and
found out my address and posted it here.


Someone then went to the bother of looking up my personal informatio
IIRC it was JimH, himself, who posted the link. If Harry reposted the
same information at a later date, I'm almost certain he would have
obtained it from the original disclosure made by the party (whom I
remember as JimH) who ran his "for sale" ad in the NG.


The boats was listed in the legitimate NG used to post boats and boat
equipment. You know that.

rec.boat.marketplace. If one chooses to chase a phone number to find an
address to post that address in rec.boats and then proceed to make
personal threats to that person and his wife...and if that person takes
the trouble to obtain a picture of ones house.....that person is a stalker
and needs help.

Harry Krause is indeed that person.

As far as posting information about my wife's medical condition, yes that
is true. But who in their right mind would then make jokes about it?

Harry Krause is indeed that person.

As I said Chuck, don't you dare start spreading lies about how my address
was posted here.

It truly is sad that you find it necessary to continuously support such a
madman.

Enough said.

Chuck,
Do you know what ever happened to Skipper? Is he still aground?
Paul


wrote:
Me again posted:

Chuck,
When you published info on Skipper being Dave Mann from Derby Kansas
were
you stalking him.

When you published JimH's name and address where you stalking him?

****************************

Skippers identity and hometown were common knowledge in the NG for
years, and it was certainly not I who spilled the beans. While
Skipper's identity was still semi-secret in the NG, he visited me in
Seattle, introduced himself and his wife, and I had his name, street
address, and phone number. During that time I kept his confidence,
despite our many disagreements. After he acknowledged his name and
hometown in the group, I no longer felt required to keep it secret. You
are mistaken on this point.

As far as your accusation that I posted Jim H's name and address to the
NG- you are either mistaken or a liar. Let's go with "mistaken" to give
you the benefit of the doubt.
The first time I remember JimH's name, street address, and phone number
appearing in the NG it was attached to some SPAM about a boat he had
for sale (a Maxum IIRC).
IIRC it was JimH, himself, who posted the link. If Harry reposted the
same information at a later date, I'm almost certain he would have
obtained it from the original disclosure made by the party (whom I
remember as JimH) who ran his "for sale" ad in the NG.

But I could be wrong. Want to have some fun? $50 to the RNC, from me,
if you can show me posting JimH's name and street address to the
Newsgroup. $50 to Muscular Dystrophy, from you, if you cannot. Fair
enough? Very simple test- did I post JimH's name and street address as
you claim, or not?

Harry Krause wrote:
snip.....
I'd trade away most of the righties here for the return of Skipper and
his Bilgeliner. In a New York minute.
snip...



You got that right. Skipper was usually fun to jostle with and could be
outrageously entertaining when he got going. You almost felt that he
believed what he was saying.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Sorry, bozo, but Hertvik posted his name, address, and phone number on the
internet long before any mention by me, and he mentioned Avon Lake here
long before I did. You have a selective memory.

Harry, I have never posted any names or personal information concerning you,
that you did not previous published in rec.boats.

In reference to Kevin, (AKA -Basskisser, Onlinear and AtlCad) I did not
publish any information that Kevin had not previously published in
rec.boats.

So it appears that you have very selective memory.

"Me Again" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Sorry, bozo, but Hert*** posted his name, address, and phone number on
the internet long before any mention by me, and he mentioned Avon Lake
here long before I did. You have a selective memory.



BULL****. Prove it. I will give you $1,000 cash if you can.

The fact is that you stalked me. First you obtained my phone number from
the website I was using to sell my boat (it did not have my last name or
address, only my phone number),. I posted the boat for sale on
rec.boats.marketplace. Using that phone number you then proceeded to find
last name my address on the internet. Having that information you posted it
all here. Only an internet stalker goes to such extremes and has such low
morals.

You later admitted in this very NG that you also took the trouble to find a
picture of my house (contrary to what someone said earlier, it was not up
for sale).

You also made threats to my wife and me. Earlier you made jokes about my
wife's medical condition.

You are a liar and a low life. Those 2 things remain constant.

I did not sell my boat or puppy.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Me Again wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message


Sorry, bozo, but Hertvik posted his name, address, and phone number on
the internet long before any mention by me, and he mentioned Avon Lake
here long before I did. You have a selective memory.


Harry, I have never posted any names or personal information concerning
you, that you did not previous published in rec.boats.


I must have missed that part where you discussed your boat and where you
boat. Did you ever sell that puppy?


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.