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Calif Bill April 8th 05 07:35 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:10:14 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:23 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

This is the best I have found

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/national.html


That is a great source, however......

I have found that no one source is truly reliable...... since
everyone here is so politically charged, perhaps you will find the
analogy reasonable; that I wouldn't base any one offshore trip on the
assurances of either PBS or FOX.....

Thus, I offer the following sources:

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/


http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/p...rtner=accuweat

her

I suggest digesting the three (or more) and making an informed
judgment based upon your experience, skill level, and the capability
of your boat, such that you can make an informed decision. Binary
thinking aboard a boat is an excellent way to get killed... and take
your passengers with you.

Unfortunately, the greatest disservice done to this newsgroups is the
political good guys vs the bad guys mentality.... in another word
binary thinking.


The weather is either good enough to go out, or it's not. Binary thinking.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


But I live 45 miles from the Pillar Point Harbor. It can be sunny and nice
at home and the ocean can be sunny and big swells with wind waves.
One of our local buoy.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46042



JimH April 8th 05 07:41 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:10:14 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:23 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

This is the best I have found

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/national.html


That is a great source, however......

I have found that no one source is truly reliable...... since
everyone here is so politically charged, perhaps you will find the
analogy reasonable; that I wouldn't base any one offshore trip on the
assurances of either PBS or FOX.....

Thus, I offer the following sources:

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/p...er=accuweather

I suggest digesting the three (or more) and making an informed
judgment based upon your experience, skill level, and the capability
of your boat, such that you can make an informed decision. Binary
thinking aboard a boat is an excellent way to get killed... and take
your passengers with you.

Unfortunately, the greatest disservice done to this newsgroups is the
political good guys vs the bad guys mentality.... in another word
binary thinking.


The weather is either good enough to go out, or it's not. Binary thinking.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


We also have live webcams on Lake Erie so you can actually see the condition
of the Lake on your computer.

Here is Huron, OH

http://www.weatherusa.net/skycamnet/...ate=Ohio&id=32



John H April 8th 05 08:00 PM

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:35:18 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:10:14 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:23 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

This is the best I have found

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/national.html


That is a great source, however......

I have found that no one source is truly reliable...... since
everyone here is so politically charged, perhaps you will find the
analogy reasonable; that I wouldn't base any one offshore trip on the
assurances of either PBS or FOX.....

Thus, I offer the following sources:

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/


http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/p...rtner=accuweat

her

I suggest digesting the three (or more) and making an informed
judgment based upon your experience, skill level, and the capability
of your boat, such that you can make an informed decision. Binary
thinking aboard a boat is an excellent way to get killed... and take
your passengers with you.

Unfortunately, the greatest disservice done to this newsgroups is the
political good guys vs the bad guys mentality.... in another word
binary thinking.


The weather is either good enough to go out, or it's not. Binary thinking.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


But I live 45 miles from the Pillar Point Harbor. It can be sunny and nice
at home and the ocean can be sunny and big swells with wind waves.
One of our local buoy.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46042


It's either good enough to drive to Pillar Point Harbor, or it's not. Once
there, it's either good enough to go out, or it's not. All binary!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

otnmbrd April 9th 05 01:17 AM

Personally, I use NOAA for their weather maps, then listen to NOAA weather
radio for a closer synopsis, then check with a local forecaster who's
familiar with the local variations, that none of the other sites are apt to
show/mention.
Problem with this is, that the local expert may not be familiar with other
areas you may move into, so that you would need a list ..... good news is
that you can frequently find a local expert who may cover a wide area.

otn



JimH April 9th 05 01:24 AM


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
Personally, I use NOAA for their weather maps, then listen to NOAA weather
radio for a closer synopsis, then check with a local forecaster who's
familiar with the local variations, that none of the other sites are apt
to show/mention.
Problem with this is, that the local expert may not be familiar with other
areas you may move into, so that you would need a list ..... good news is
that you can frequently find a local expert who may cover a wide area.

otn


NOAA has consistently over exaggerated or under reported wave heights for us
when listening to the present conditions and forecasts on the western end of
Lake Erie.



Calif Bill April 9th 05 01:32 AM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:35:18 GMT, "Calif Bill"


wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:10:14 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:23 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

This is the best I have found

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/national.html


That is a great source, however......

I have found that no one source is truly reliable...... since
everyone here is so politically charged, perhaps you will find the
analogy reasonable; that I wouldn't base any one offshore trip on the
assurances of either PBS or FOX.....

Thus, I offer the following sources:

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/


http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/p...artner=accuwea

t
her

I suggest digesting the three (or more) and making an informed
judgment based upon your experience, skill level, and the capability
of your boat, such that you can make an informed decision. Binary
thinking aboard a boat is an excellent way to get killed... and take
your passengers with you.

Unfortunately, the greatest disservice done to this newsgroups is the
political good guys vs the bad guys mentality.... in another word
binary thinking.

The weather is either good enough to go out, or it's not. Binary

thinking.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


But I live 45 miles from the Pillar Point Harbor. It can be sunny and

nice
at home and the ocean can be sunny and big swells with wind waves.
One of our local buoy.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46042


It's either good enough to drive to Pillar Point Harbor, or it's not. Once
there, it's either good enough to go out, or it's not. All binary!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


No it is all the 1's and 0's t takes to pay the trip cost. $2.60 gallon for
the diesel truck and $6.25 for the San Mateo bridge toll. I would rather
know it is safe to launch before spending those funds.



John H April 9th 05 02:12 AM

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:32:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:35:18 GMT, "Calif Bill"


wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:10:14 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:23 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

This is the best I have found

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/national.html


That is a great source, however......

I have found that no one source is truly reliable...... since
everyone here is so politically charged, perhaps you will find the
analogy reasonable; that I wouldn't base any one offshore trip on the
assurances of either PBS or FOX.....

Thus, I offer the following sources:

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/


http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/p...artner=accuwea

t
her

I suggest digesting the three (or more) and making an informed
judgment based upon your experience, skill level, and the capability
of your boat, such that you can make an informed decision. Binary
thinking aboard a boat is an excellent way to get killed... and take
your passengers with you.

Unfortunately, the greatest disservice done to this newsgroups is the
political good guys vs the bad guys mentality.... in another word
binary thinking.

The weather is either good enough to go out, or it's not. Binary

thinking.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

But I live 45 miles from the Pillar Point Harbor. It can be sunny and

nice
at home and the ocean can be sunny and big swells with wind waves.
One of our local buoy.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46042


It's either good enough to drive to Pillar Point Harbor, or it's not. Once
there, it's either good enough to go out, or it's not. All binary!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


No it is all the 1's and 0's t takes to pay the trip cost. $2.60 gallon for
the diesel truck and $6.25 for the San Mateo bridge toll. I would rather
know it is safe to launch before spending those funds.


I agree! I have to drive for 45 minutes to get to the boat. But, it's still a
binary decision - do I go or not go.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


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