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Jim, wrote:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

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CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14½, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


Once again, I have always and only thought that the "sex act," as it were,
only referred to sexual intercourse.

He didn't say "sex", or "sexual intercourse". He said "sexual relations".
What person with at least half a working brain doesn't think that a BJ is a
form of sexual relations?

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Jim, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:



Jim, wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14½, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University of
California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where
boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my
naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were going
to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.



MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
.. .


Harry Krause wrote:


Jim, wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14½, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


Once again, I have always and only thought that the "sex act," as it were,
only referred to sexual intercourse.


He didn't say "sex", or "sexual intercourse". He said "sexual relations".
What person with at least half a working brain doesn't think that a BJ is a
form of sexual relations?



See
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar18.html

"The sad story is that kids who are trying to preserve their technical
virginity are, in some cases, engaging in much riskier behavior," said
lead author Peter S. Bearman, a professor at Columbia's Institute for
Social and Economic Research and Policy. "From a public health point of
view, an abstinence movement that encourages no vaginal sex may
inadvertently encourage other forms of alternative sex that are at
higher risk of STDs."

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:




Jim, wrote:




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral
sex and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next
six months, a small study of teens at two California schools
reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14½, also say oral sex is
less risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group
than intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in
two California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about
oral sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University
of California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most
kids were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was
about 45 years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in
that state. Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first
afterschool jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool
where boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by
me. In my naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we
were going to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just
fooling around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue
in her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.




MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)




You can do better than a "survey of UK matrimonial lawyers."

It was the quickest thing a google search returned. States don't ask the
"reason" for divorce when they collect divorce statistics, so the only
decent measure is statistics formed by polls taken of divorce attorneys.
Most of those show that infidility is the top reason for divorce.

Harry,

Here is another study that lists infidelity as one of the major reasons for
divorce.

Since you know better than these "experts" what do you consider the major
reasons for divorce.



Reasons for divorce; divorce rate

What are the reasons given for divorce by the spouses? In order of
importance, women say (1) incompatibility and unhappiness, (2) husband's
alcohol, physical and verbal abuse, (3) husband's infidelity, (4)
disagreements about religion and children, (5) their own alcohol abuse, (6)
their own infidelity, and (7) their needs for independence. Men say (1) drug
abuse (wife's or his) and mental illness, (2) many differences (religion,
communication, in-laws), (3) his alcohol and physical abuse, (4) wife's
independence and infidelity, (5) incompatibility and unhappiness, (6) wife's
alcohol abuse, and (7) his infidelity (Cleek and Pearson, 1985). In general,
"emotional problems" are the most common cause of divorce; men cite "sexual
problems" three times more often than women and women cite an "affair" twice
as often as men (Janus & Janus, 1993). Quite often, people say they do not
really know why their spouse filed for divorce.

Helen Fisher, an anthropologist, has found that divorce worldwide occurs
most common in the fourth year of marriage or between ages 25 and 29. She
speculates that 4 years have been needed in human history to attract a mate,
establish a home, produce a child, and raise it until it was weaned. Humans
may have survived a few million years by changing partners with each new
child or every 4 or 5 years. She suggests it could be our genetic
inheritance.

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Jim, wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:




Jim, wrote:




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral
sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14½, also say oral sex is
less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in
two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about
oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University
of
California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most
kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where
boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In
my
naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were
going
to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just
fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue
in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.




MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)




You can do better than a "survey of UK matrimonial lawyers."


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


And from the current president, they're learning that dancing is a suitable
substitute for the truth, energy policies can be made in total secrecy with
a group of unidentified cronies, and learning is unimportant and perhaps
even frowned upon. Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these
crimes. Own them and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


And from the current president, they're learning that dancing is a
suitable substitute for the truth,

The truth is a suitable substitute for the truth. Personally, I hate
dancing...in it's physical *and* verbal forms.

energy policies can be made in total secrecy with a group of unidentified
cronies,

If a high school kid sits on an energy board, perhaps that'll matter some
day.

and learning is unimportant and perhaps even frowned upon.

Getting an undergrad degree and an MBA requires "learning". Who's frowning
upon it?

Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these crimes. Own them
and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.

Crimes? What crimes?

Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



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"Jim," wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral
sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next
six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools
reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14=BD, also say oral sex is
less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in
two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about
oral
sex, which surprised the study's lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California
San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most
kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about
45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I
worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of
condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested
for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine
or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what
appears to be the popular definition.

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for
the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I
doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Of course! Low life scum that can't post anything of any relevance, and
are scared little sissies must post using someone else's identity. Grow
up.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
Infidelity is *a* top reason, but I doubt it is "the" top reason. Most
divorces result from a "combination of ingredients," including failure to
communicate, infidelity, sexual incompatibility, money problems, substance
abuse, physical abuse, et cetera.

Harry,
I am glad my cut and paste article was informative.

NOYB wrote:
"Kevin Noble" wrote in message
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If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

Your family just considered it good ol' fashioned Georgia-style
family
bonding between a mom and her son, right?

You're ignorance is showing again, NOYB. The post above ain't from who
you think it's from....sorry, nice try.
Also, after trying to get everyone here to think you're something
special, you post low life crap like that above, proving what you
really are.