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thunder February 16th 04 04:27 AM

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:03:10 +0000, NOYB wrote:


He may very well *be* a traitor, but not for his anti-Vietnam War stance.
If the following is true, the scumbag is back-dooring the President on
foreign
policy...and is possibly inciting Iran to organize increased resistance in
Iraq. If true, his actions are treasonous because they're putting
our troops in further danger. Hell, Kerry is practically *begging* Iran to
help make our effort in Iraq fail...so that he can "build new friendships
and overcome
tensions with others".


The mud is really starting to fly. This all sounds vaguely reminiscent of
a previous time.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html

basskisser February 16th 04 12:39 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:1rcXb.2994
Uh, Bush is in the White House and controls both houses of congress and
the judiciary, and he still can't or won't deliver on his most important
pre-appointment pledges.




Back to my first question. What is Kerry going to do? Not Bush is bad, I
will be better. Why will he be better? Forget the Harry spinmeister
machine. What and Why are the questions that require answers!!!


Here are just SOME of Kerry's ideas:


The first thing John Kerry will do is fight his heart out to bring
back the three million jobs that have been lost under George W. Bush.
He will fight to restore the jobs lost under Bush in the first 500
days of his administration. Kerry has proposed creating jobs through a
new manufacturing jobs credit, by investing in new energy industries,
restoring technology, and stopping layoffs in education.

John Kerry believes that we need to invest in our schools instead of
giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. He has the courage to
fight for our children's future every day. When it comes to education,
George W. Bush has been the photo-op President. He stands next to
children and teachers for a picture, but he doesn't stand with them
when it comes to improving our public schools. By signing the No
Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving
schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has
undermined public education and left millions of children behind.

As President, John Kerry will roll up his sleeves and get things done
for America's schools.
It's time to stop sending new mandates from Washington to school
districts without providing the necessary resources needed to carry
out those new rules. That's why John Kerry is proposing a new
‘Education Trust Fund' that means fully funding education, no
questions asked

Affordable Health Care for Every American
John Kerry believes that your family's health is just as important as
any politician's in Washington. That's why he will give every
American access to the health care plan that the President and Members
of Congress already have. John Kerry has the courage to take on
special interests to get health care costs under control. He will
stand up to big insurance and drug companies that impede progress.
And John Kerry's health care plan takes care of our most vulnerable
citizens by covering every child and preserving and strengthening
Medicare.

Cleaner and Greener America
Throughout his career, John Kerry has been a top leader on the
environment, fighting to clean up toxic waste sites, to keep our air
and water clean, and to protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
and other pristine wilderness areas. In addition to supporting
important environmental initiatives, John Kerry has turned a spotlight
on the Bush Administration's rollbacks of our hard-won environmental
gains and their outdated, old-economy notions that our environment
must be sacrificed in the name of short-term profit. John Kerry has
the courage to take on the polluters that are trying to gut our clean
air and water laws. John Kerry has the vision to create a new
Manhattan Project to make America independent of Middle East oil in 10
years by creating alternative fuels like ethanol and making cars more
efficient. We'll create half a million new jobs here at home at the
same time – and we'll never have to send our sons and daughters to war
for Mideast oil.

Native Americans for Kerry
John Kerry is the only candidate with a comprehensive agenda to
improve the lives of Native Americans. Kerry will work every day to
promote tribal sovereignty. While there are a number of successes in
Indian Country, in these times of economic hardship – worsened by the
policies of the Bush Administration – Kerry recognizes that the
Federal government must partner with tribes to improve access to
health care, provide more educational opportunities, and strengthen
economic development efforts.

Technology Plan to Create Jobs and Empower Americans to Lead in the
21st Century
Technology has the potential to empower Americans by creating new high
quality jobs, making America more competitive, and improving the
quality of life. However, to realize this potential, we need a
government committed to encouraging innovation and the widespread
deployment of technology.
We are currently in a jobless recovery and it is not clear where the
next round of high-wage jobs will come from. More than 425,000
technology jobs have been lost on President Bush's watch. We need a
President who is committed to bolstering technology and ensuring that
growth in these industries leads to job creation, widespread economic
growth and prosperity, and democratic involvement. Kerry's five point
technology plan will:

Encourage innovation to create high paying jobs.
Assure America has cutting edge technology for the future.
Make America more competitive by strengthening our markets.
Train a workforce prepared for the jobs of the 21st century.
Using technology to improve quality of life.

NOYB February 16th 04 03:02 PM

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:03:10 +0000, NOYB wrote:


He may very well *be* a traitor, but not for his anti-Vietnam War

stance.
If the following is true, the scumbag is back-dooring the President on
foreign
policy...and is possibly inciting Iran to organize increased resistance

in
Iraq. If true, his actions are treasonous because they're putting
our troops in further danger. Hell, Kerry is practically *begging* Iran

to
help make our effort in Iraq fail...so that he can "build new

friendships
and overcome
tensions with others".


The mud is really starting to fly. This all sounds vaguely reminiscent of
a previous time.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html


I hope you're taking the moral high road and are condemning *both* sides for
acts that could be considered treasonous. If Reagan's people did as your
links suggest, that's treason. If Kerry's office sent a letter to Iran and
is effectively undermining the efforts of our soldiers, then he's a scumbag
and should be shot.

Charlie Rangel likes to say "nobody got killed killed when Clinton lied".
Well, nobody got killed if Reagan delayed the hostage's return. Men *are*
getting killed if Kerry is stoking the fires in Iran, and causing the
Iranian intelligence agency to incite continued attacks on our troops.



thunder February 16th 04 06:13 PM

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:02:12 +0000, NOYB wrote:


I hope you're taking the moral high road and are condemning *both* sides for
acts that could be considered treasonous. If Reagan's people did as your
links suggest, that's treason. If Kerry's office sent a letter to Iran and
is effectively undermining the efforts of our soldiers, then he's a scumbag
and should be shot.


I would agree, but reading the email from Kerry's *office*, it looks to me
like pure unadulterated spam. I see no secret deals, no conspiracies,
nothing but a piece of spam. Frankly, I don't think an email sent to a
foreign news agency is the channel of choice for a potential treasonous
act.

NOYB February 16th 04 06:18 PM

Forgot this part...
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:02:12 +0000, NOYB wrote:


I hope you're taking the moral high road and are condemning *both* sides

for
acts that could be considered treasonous. If Reagan's people did as

your
links suggest, that's treason. If Kerry's office sent a letter to Iran

and
is effectively undermining the efforts of our soldiers, then he's a

scumbag
and should be shot.


I would agree, but reading the email from Kerry's *office*, it looks to me
like pure unadulterated spam. I see no secret deals, no conspiracies,
nothing but a piece of spam. Frankly, I don't think an email sent to a
foreign news agency is the channel of choice for a potential treasonous
act.


It's Kerry's intent to rally the World community around his campaign...even
at the cost of undermining our current President while troops are in harm's
way.

If you want to solicit the support of Americans, I can see how it's
acceptable. But soliciting the World community, when it's clearly illegal
for a foreign person or country to donate financially to a Presidential
candidate, is just plain wrong. Perhaps Kerry thinks they'll illegally
channel money into that campaign-finance-reform loophole that goes by the
name of "moveon.org"?



thunder February 16th 04 07:18 PM

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:18:54 +0000, NOYB wrote:


It's Kerry's intent to rally the World community around his campaign...even
at the cost of undermining our current President while troops are in harm's
way.


I think you are jumping the gun. We do not know Kerry's intent. Kerry
didn't write the email. At most it was written by someone in his office.

If you want to solicit the support of Americans, I can see how it's
acceptable. But soliciting the World community, when it's clearly
illegal for a foreign person or country to donate financially to a
Presidential candidate, is just plain wrong. Perhaps Kerry thinks
they'll illegally channel money into that campaign-finance-reform
loophole that goes by the name of "moveon.org"?


Personally, I thought the email was looking for American absentee votes,
not money. ("As Americans who have lived and worked extensively
overseas,") I could be wrong, perhaps we will here from the Kerry office
about the email.


Calif Bill February 16th 04 08:07 PM

Forgot this part...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
. ..
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1rcXb.2994
Uh, Bush is in the White House and controls both houses of congress

and
the judiciary, and he still can't or won't deliver on his most

important
pre-appointment pledges.




Back to my first question. What is Kerry going to do? Not Bush is bad,

I
will be better. Why will he be better? Forget the Harry spinmeister
machine. What and Why are the questions that require answers!!!



Lots of fluff here. What are the concrete steps?


Here are just SOME of Kerry's ideas:


The first thing John Kerry will do is fight his heart out to bring
back the three million jobs that have been lost under George W. Bush.
He will fight to restore the jobs lost under Bush in the first 500
days of his administration. Kerry has proposed creating jobs through a
new manufacturing jobs credit, by investing in new energy industries,
restoring technology, and stopping layoffs in education.


The millions of jobs were already dying under the last President. Federal
Reserve did a lot to encourage the loss by not controlling a runaway stock
market. Sort of a baby 1928.


John Kerry believes that we need to invest in our schools instead of
giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. He has the courage to
fight for our children's future every day. When it comes to education,
George W. Bush has been the photo-op President. He stands next to
children and teachers for a picture, but he doesn't stand with them
when it comes to improving our public schools. By signing the No
Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving
schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has
undermined public education and left millions of children behind.

As President, John Kerry will roll up his sleeves and get things done
for America's schools.
It's time to stop sending new mandates from Washington to school
districts without providing the necessary resources needed to carry
out those new rules. That's why John Kerry is proposing a new
'Education Trust Fund' that means fully funding education, no
questions asked


Fully fund what? We spend 50% of our state budget in California for
education and we still get illiterates graduating. We need to require
results from our educators! We have an education industry that sucks up
BILLIONS with no accountability! Example. There used to be different
levels of English depending on whether the student was College Prep, or not.
Now the education industry requires all students take the same class.
College bound, or learning disability, same class. So you get near total
failure of results. Something like 50% of entering college students require
remediation in English as well as other studies. You just going to throw
money at the problem? We've done that for a bunch of years and has not
worked yet. Do we just need more time and money?



Affordable Health Care for Every American
John Kerry believes that your family's health is just as important as
any politician's in Washington. That's why he will give every
American access to the health care plan that the President and Members
of Congress already have. John Kerry has the courage to take on
special interests to get health care costs under control. He will
stand up to big insurance and drug companies that impede progress.
And John Kerry's health care plan takes care of our most vulnerable
citizens by covering every child and preserving and strengthening
Medicare.


And we are going to be all healthy and eat a Big Mac, and no health care.
Only a small percentage of the people in this country do not have insurance
through self paid or employer. You going to trash the whole system because
of a small amount of people? And due to state welfare, all the children and
adults get healthcare now.

Cleaner and Greener America
Throughout his career, John Kerry has been a top leader on the
environment, fighting to clean up toxic waste sites, to keep our air
and water clean, and to protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
and other pristine wilderness areas. In addition to supporting
important environmental initiatives, John Kerry has turned a spotlight
on the Bush Administration's rollbacks of our hard-won environmental
gains and their outdated, old-economy notions that our environment
must be sacrificed in the name of short-term profit. John Kerry has
the courage to take on the polluters that are trying to gut our clean
air and water laws. John Kerry has the vision to create a new
Manhattan Project to make America independent of Middle East oil in 10
years by creating alternative fuels like ethanol and making cars more
efficient. We'll create half a million new jobs here at home at the
same time - and we'll never have to send our sons and daughters to war
for Mideast oil.


First ANWAR is not pristine. A few towns, old military bases, etc. in the
area. I think creating a new Manhatten project for energy is good. But are
you going to complain when some big business such as Exxon or ChevronTexaco
get a piece of the pie?


Native Americans for Kerry
John Kerry is the only candidate with a comprehensive agenda to
improve the lives of Native Americans. Kerry will work every day to
promote tribal sovereignty. While there are a number of successes in
Indian Country, in these times of economic hardship - worsened by the
policies of the Bush Administration - Kerry recognizes that the
Federal government must partner with tribes to improve access to
health care, provide more educational opportunities, and strengthen
economic development efforts.


Better look at the education programs the Native Americans have had access
to for years. They are soverign nations. They have casinos on there land
here in California and other places that the rest of us can not run. So let
those rich soverign nations help their poor soverign nations brothers.

Technology Plan to Create Jobs and Empower Americans to Lead in the
21st Century
Technology has the potential to empower Americans by creating new high
quality jobs, making America more competitive, and improving the
quality of life. However, to realize this potential, we need a
government committed to encouraging innovation and the widespread
deployment of technology.
We are currently in a jobless recovery and it is not clear where the
next round of high-wage jobs will come from. More than 425,000
technology jobs have been lost on President Bush's watch. We need a
President who is committed to bolstering technology and ensuring that
growth in these industries leads to job creation, widespread economic
growth and prosperity, and democratic involvement. Kerry's five point
technology plan will:

Encourage innovation to create high paying jobs.
Assure America has cutting edge technology for the future.
Make America more competitive by strengthening our markets.
Train a workforce prepared for the jobs of the 21st century.
Using technology to improve quality of life.



We do that now. What is Kerry going to do different?



basskisser February 17th 04 12:44 PM

Forgot this part...
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
. ..
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1rcXb.2994
Uh, Bush is in the White House and controls both houses of congress

and
the judiciary, and he still can't or won't deliver on his most

important
pre-appointment pledges.




Back to my first question. What is Kerry going to do? Not Bush is bad,

I
will be better. Why will he be better? Forget the Harry spinmeister
machine. What and Why are the questions that require answers!!!



Lots of fluff here. What are the concrete steps?


Here are just SOME of Kerry's ideas:


The first thing John Kerry will do is fight his heart out to bring
back the three million jobs that have been lost under George W. Bush.
He will fight to restore the jobs lost under Bush in the first 500
days of his administration. Kerry has proposed creating jobs through a
new manufacturing jobs credit, by investing in new energy industries,
restoring technology, and stopping layoffs in education.


The millions of jobs were already dying under the last President. Federal
Reserve did a lot to encourage the loss by not controlling a runaway stock
market. Sort of a baby 1928.


John Kerry believes that we need to invest in our schools instead of
giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. He has the courage to
fight for our children's future every day. When it comes to education,
George W. Bush has been the photo-op President. He stands next to
children and teachers for a picture, but he doesn't stand with them
when it comes to improving our public schools. By signing the No
Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving
schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has
undermined public education and left millions of children behind.

As President, John Kerry will roll up his sleeves and get things done
for America's schools.
It's time to stop sending new mandates from Washington to school
districts without providing the necessary resources needed to carry
out those new rules. That's why John Kerry is proposing a new
'Education Trust Fund' that means fully funding education, no
questions asked


Fully fund what? We spend 50% of our state budget in California for
education and we still get illiterates graduating.


We are talking about FEDERALLY funding here, not California. You
always use just California in quantifying your reasoning. Everybody
else in the U.S. knows that California screws up everything government
related. so, moot point.

We need to require
results from our educators! We have an education industry that sucks up
BILLIONS with no accountability! Example. There used to be different
levels of English depending on whether the student was College Prep, or not.
Now the education industry requires all students take the same class.
College bound, or learning disability, same class. So you get near total
failure of results. Something like 50% of entering college students require
remediation in English as well as other studies. You just going to throw
money at the problem? We've done that for a bunch of years and has not
worked yet. Do we just need more time and money?



Affordable Health Care for Every American
John Kerry believes that your family's health is just as important as
any politician's in Washington. That's why he will give every
American access to the health care plan that the President and Members
of Congress already have. John Kerry has the courage to take on
special interests to get health care costs under control. He will
stand up to big insurance and drug companies that impede progress.
And John Kerry's health care plan takes care of our most vulnerable
citizens by covering every child and preserving and strengthening
Medicare.


And we are going to be all healthy and eat a Big Mac, and no health care.
Only a small percentage of the people in this country do not have insurance
through self paid or employer. You going to trash the whole system because
of a small amount of people? And due to state welfare, all the children and
adults get healthcare now.


Bull****, pure and simple. If you believe your above statement that
all children and adults get healthcare now, you are simply an idiot.

Cleaner and Greener America
Throughout his career, John Kerry has been a top leader on the
environment, fighting to clean up toxic waste sites, to keep our air
and water clean, and to protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
and other pristine wilderness areas. In addition to supporting
important environmental initiatives, John Kerry has turned a spotlight
on the Bush Administration's rollbacks of our hard-won environmental
gains and their outdated, old-economy notions that our environment
must be sacrificed in the name of short-term profit. John Kerry has
the courage to take on the polluters that are trying to gut our clean
air and water laws. John Kerry has the vision to create a new
Manhattan Project to make America independent of Middle East oil in 10
years by creating alternative fuels like ethanol and making cars more
efficient. We'll create half a million new jobs here at home at the
same time - and we'll never have to send our sons and daughters to war
for Mideast oil.


First ANWAR is not pristine. A few towns, old military bases, etc. in the
area. I think creating a new Manhatten project for energy is good. But are
you going to complain when some big business such as Exxon or ChevronTexaco
get a piece of the pie?


Yes. You are talking apples and oranges here. I want Kerry's ideas of
support for research into alternate fuels. This will kill two birds
with one stone. Cleaner burning or zero emissions means our goal of
cleaning up the environment will be met, along with severing our
dependence on Mid-East oil. How could this be bad, unless you have
huge interests in oil companies?


Native Americans for Kerry
John Kerry is the only candidate with a comprehensive agenda to
improve the lives of Native Americans. Kerry will work every day to
promote tribal sovereignty. While there are a number of successes in
Indian Country, in these times of economic hardship - worsened by the
policies of the Bush Administration - Kerry recognizes that the
Federal government must partner with tribes to improve access to
health care, provide more educational opportunities, and strengthen
economic development efforts.


Better look at the education programs the Native Americans have had access
to for years. They are soverign nations. They have casinos on there land
here in California and other places that the rest of us can not run. So let
those rich soverign nations help their poor soverign nations brothers.


Pure stupidity. Most tribes with casinos are just finally making it up
to fiscal standards of the rest of the U.S. Your perception of them
just getting filthy rich is WAY off base.

Technology Plan to Create Jobs and Empower Americans to Lead in the
21st Century
Technology has the potential to empower Americans by creating new high
quality jobs, making America more competitive, and improving the
quality of life. However, to realize this potential, we need a
government committed to encouraging innovation and the widespread
deployment of technology.
We are currently in a jobless recovery and it is not clear where the
next round of high-wage jobs will come from. More than 425,000
technology jobs have been lost on President Bush's watch. We need a
President who is committed to bolstering technology and ensuring that
growth in these industries leads to job creation, widespread economic
growth and prosperity, and democratic involvement. Kerry's five point
technology plan will:

Encourage innovation to create high paying jobs.
Assure America has cutting edge technology for the future.
Make America more competitive by strengthening our markets.
Train a workforce prepared for the jobs of the 21st century.
Using technology to improve quality of life.



We do that now.


Horse****. Bush has cut subsidies that supported many, many thousands
of research projects.

What is Kerry going to do different?

See all of above. Again, at the beginning, I stated this is just SOME
of Kerry's ideas. There are many, many more.

Joe Parsons February 17th 04 10:04 PM

Forgot this part...
 
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:07:09 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

[snip]

The millions of jobs were already dying under the last President. Federal
Reserve did a lot to encourage the loss by not controlling a runaway stock
market. Sort of a baby 1928.


Uh oh. Here we go again.

And how would the Federal Reserve have controlled that "runaway stock market?"

Joe Parsons


Calif Bill February 17th 04 10:18 PM

Forgot this part...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
. ..
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1rcXb.2994
Uh, Bush is in the White House and controls both houses of

congress
and
the judiciary, and he still can't or won't deliver on his most

important
pre-appointment pledges.




Back to my first question. What is Kerry going to do? Not Bush is

bad,
I
will be better. Why will he be better? Forget the Harry

spinmeister
machine. What and Why are the questions that require answers!!!



Lots of fluff here. What are the concrete steps?


Here are just SOME of Kerry's ideas:


The first thing John Kerry will do is fight his heart out to bring
back the three million jobs that have been lost under George W. Bush.
He will fight to restore the jobs lost under Bush in the first 500
days of his administration. Kerry has proposed creating jobs through a
new manufacturing jobs credit, by investing in new energy industries,
restoring technology, and stopping layoffs in education.


The millions of jobs were already dying under the last President.

Federal
Reserve did a lot to encourage the loss by not controlling a runaway

stock
market. Sort of a baby 1928.


John Kerry believes that we need to invest in our schools instead of
giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. He has the courage to
fight for our children's future every day. When it comes to education,
George W. Bush has been the photo-op President. He stands next to
children and teachers for a picture, but he doesn't stand with them
when it comes to improving our public schools. By signing the No
Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving
schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has
undermined public education and left millions of children behind.

As President, John Kerry will roll up his sleeves and get things done
for America's schools.
It's time to stop sending new mandates from Washington to school
districts without providing the necessary resources needed to carry
out those new rules. That's why John Kerry is proposing a new
'Education Trust Fund' that means fully funding education, no
questions asked


Fully fund what? We spend 50% of our state budget in California for
education and we still get illiterates graduating.


We are talking about FEDERALLY funding here, not California. You
always use just California in quantifying your reasoning. Everybody
else in the U.S. knows that California screws up everything government
related. so, moot point.

We need to require
results from our educators! We have an education industry that sucks up
BILLIONS with no accountability! Example. There used to be different
levels of English depending on whether the student was College Prep, or

not.
Now the education industry requires all students take the same class.
College bound, or learning disability, same class. So you get near

total
failure of results. Something like 50% of entering college students

require
remediation in English as well as other studies. You just going to

throw
money at the problem? We've done that for a bunch of years and has not
worked yet. Do we just need more time and money?



Affordable Health Care for Every American
John Kerry believes that your family's health is just as important as
any politician's in Washington. That's why he will give every
American access to the health care plan that the President and Members
of Congress already have. John Kerry has the courage to take on
special interests to get health care costs under control. He will
stand up to big insurance and drug companies that impede progress.
And John Kerry's health care plan takes care of our most vulnerable
citizens by covering every child and preserving and strengthening
Medicare.


And we are going to be all healthy and eat a Big Mac, and no health

care.
Only a small percentage of the people in this country do not have

insurance
through self paid or employer. You going to trash the whole system

because
of a small amount of people? And due to state welfare, all the children

and
adults get healthcare now.


Bull****, pure and simple. If you believe your above statement that
all children and adults get healthcare now, you are simply an idiot.

Cleaner and Greener America
Throughout his career, John Kerry has been a top leader on the
environment, fighting to clean up toxic waste sites, to keep our air
and water clean, and to protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
and other pristine wilderness areas. In addition to supporting
important environmental initiatives, John Kerry has turned a spotlight
on the Bush Administration's rollbacks of our hard-won environmental
gains and their outdated, old-economy notions that our environment
must be sacrificed in the name of short-term profit. John Kerry has
the courage to take on the polluters that are trying to gut our clean
air and water laws. John Kerry has the vision to create a new
Manhattan Project to make America independent of Middle East oil in 10
years by creating alternative fuels like ethanol and making cars more
efficient. We'll create half a million new jobs here at home at the
same time - and we'll never have to send our sons and daughters to war
for Mideast oil.


First ANWAR is not pristine. A few towns, old military bases, etc. in

the
area. I think creating a new Manhatten project for energy is good. But

are
you going to complain when some big business such as Exxon or

ChevronTexaco
get a piece of the pie?


Yes. You are talking apples and oranges here. I want Kerry's ideas of
support for research into alternate fuels. This will kill two birds
with one stone. Cleaner burning or zero emissions means our goal of
cleaning up the environment will be met, along with severing our
dependence on Mid-East oil. How could this be bad, unless you have
huge interests in oil companies?


Native Americans for Kerry
John Kerry is the only candidate with a comprehensive agenda to
improve the lives of Native Americans. Kerry will work every day to
promote tribal sovereignty. While there are a number of successes in
Indian Country, in these times of economic hardship - worsened by the
policies of the Bush Administration - Kerry recognizes that the
Federal government must partner with tribes to improve access to
health care, provide more educational opportunities, and strengthen
economic development efforts.


Better look at the education programs the Native Americans have had

access
to for years. They are soverign nations. They have casinos on there

land
here in California and other places that the rest of us can not run. So

let
those rich soverign nations help their poor soverign nations brothers.


Pure stupidity. Most tribes with casinos are just finally making it up
to fiscal standards of the rest of the U.S. Your perception of them
just getting filthy rich is WAY off base.

Technology Plan to Create Jobs and Empower Americans to Lead in the
21st Century
Technology has the potential to empower Americans by creating new high
quality jobs, making America more competitive, and improving the
quality of life. However, to realize this potential, we need a
government committed to encouraging innovation and the widespread
deployment of technology.
We are currently in a jobless recovery and it is not clear where the
next round of high-wage jobs will come from. More than 425,000
technology jobs have been lost on President Bush's watch. We need a
President who is committed to bolstering technology and ensuring that
growth in these industries leads to job creation, widespread economic
growth and prosperity, and democratic involvement. Kerry's five point
technology plan will:

Encourage innovation to create high paying jobs.
Assure America has cutting edge technology for the future.
Make America more competitive by strengthening our markets.
Train a workforce prepared for the jobs of the 21st century.
Using technology to improve quality of life.



We do that now.


Horse****. Bush has cut subsidies that supported many, many thousands
of research projects.

What is Kerry going to do different?

See all of above. Again, at the beginning, I stated this is just SOME
of Kerry's ideas. There are many, many more.



Ideas? What are the actual programs to be implemented? Where is the money
for them coming from?




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