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NOYB January 29th 04 06:30 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
Just so these statements won't go away, Republicans will keep posting these
over and over and over again.




"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction.....So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction
is real"
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam
Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
for
the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to
its
agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence
reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not
yet
achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002


"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf
and we
should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to
weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass
destruction
has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it
will
continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has
also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the
terrible
events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left
unchecked,
Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological
and
chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American
security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam
Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available
means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has
already
used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to
build
more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear
weapons,
and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." --
John
Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively
to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within
the
next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to
enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that
difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always
underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of
mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002


"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority
to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a
real
and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United
States
and to our allies."
Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean
September 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing
weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002


"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons
of
mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates
of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and
the
means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors
last
visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has
reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological,
chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf
War
status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-
range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." --
From
a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold
Ford,
& Tom Lantos among others..

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to
use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam
and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened
tomorrow." --
Bill Clinton in 1998

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass
destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them
against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that
the
proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave
importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the
development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat
to
countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons
inspection
process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible
intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq
still
has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium
perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and
ballistic
missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these
deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX
substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is
stored
in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq
retains
significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to
rapidly
reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons
Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998




jps January 29th 04 07:15 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
In article et,
says...

Yawn...

Let's talk about the policy of pre-emptive strikes in the light of bad
intelligence...

Stupid, stupid, stupid policy that David Kay himself said you had to
have "pristine intelligence" in order to assume.

We have blood on our hands and have lowered ourselves to the level of
Saddam. Killing innocent people for dubious reasons.

Go here
http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Florida Keyz January 29th 04 07:52 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
cowards hide behind fake email names.. if the shoe fits........

NOYB January 29th 04 08:36 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

Yawn...

Let's talk about the policy of pre-emptive strikes in the light of bad
intelligence...

Stupid, stupid, stupid policy that David Kay himself said you had to
have "pristine intelligence" in order to assume.

We have blood on our hands and have lowered ourselves to the level of
Saddam. Killing innocent people for dubious reasons.


So you think that Saddam's regime, the Taliban, and al Qaeda members are
"innocent people"? How interesting.




NOYB January 29th 04 08:37 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
...
cowards hide behind fake email names.. if the shoe fits........


Not sure how that applies here...but thanks for contributing!



jps January 29th 04 09:59 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
In article et,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

Yawn...

Let's talk about the policy of pre-emptive strikes in the light of bad
intelligence...

Stupid, stupid, stupid policy that David Kay himself said you had to
have "pristine intelligence" in order to assume.

We have blood on our hands and have lowered ourselves to the level of
Saddam. Killing innocent people for dubious reasons.


So you think that Saddam's regime, the Taliban, and al Qaeda members are
"innocent people"? How interesting.


You ****ing dweeb.

We had the right to hunt down the assholes that perpetrated 9/11. They
were living in Afghanistan under Taliban protection.

Pre-emption *wasn't* an issue.

Saddam didn't have **** all to do with 9/11, wasn't a threat and hadn't
attacked our country.

Pre-emption *was* an issue.

You and Dick "Mobile Weapons Lab" Cheney need to get that straight.

Pre-emption was and is a frightening concept, bad policy and calloused
path to resolving "suspected" threats. I couldn't think of a better
example of it's pitfalls than what we've witnessed in Iraq. We invaded
their country and killed tens of thousands based on bad information.

Try to defend pre-emption as a state policy. ****ing idiot Bush.

Doug Kanter January 29th 04 10:23 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
Time Magazine recently ran a story which indicated that according to polls,
Bush was second only to Nixon in his biggest accomplishment: Dividing the
country almost evenly on major issues, like the war. Keep this in mind.
Because of the way he has conducted himself, no patriot alive will consider
your boy trustworthy.



Harry Krause January 29th 04 11:08 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 
NOYB wrote:
Just so these statements won't go away, Republicans will keep posting these
over and over and over again.




"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction.....So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction
is real"
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



You can post them a zillion times; it doesn't matter. What matters is
that it was *your boy Bush* who was so naive and so taken and so prone
to invade Iraq that he did.


--
Email sent to is never read.

NOYB January 29th 04 11:28 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...

Yawn...

Let's talk about the policy of pre-emptive strikes in the light of bad
intelligence...

Stupid, stupid, stupid policy that David Kay himself said you had to
have "pristine intelligence" in order to assume.

We have blood on our hands and have lowered ourselves to the level of
Saddam. Killing innocent people for dubious reasons.


So you think that Saddam's regime, the Taliban, and al Qaeda members are
"innocent people"? How interesting.


You ****ing dweeb.


My, my, my...you're a little testy tonight...and a class act to boot!

Nevertheless, contrary to what your simple mind may think, Saddam was
anything but "innocent".



NOYB January 29th 04 11:36 PM

OT--Democrats On Record Concerning WMD
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Just so these statements won't go away, Republicans will keep posting

these
over and over and over again.




"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction.....So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction
is real"
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



You can post them a zillion times; it doesn't matter. What matters is
that it was *your boy Bush* who was so naive and so taken and so prone
to invade Iraq that he did.


Clinton signed the Iraqi Regime Change Act. I guess you're saying that
those were just words that had no meaning? Was he not a man of his word?
Was he not a man of conviction? Afterall, he fell into the trap several
times (after the attempted assassination on an ex-President, and after the
UNSCOM inspectors were kicked out)...and launched a bunch of million dollar
missiles.

Bush is a man of conviction. He's a man of action, not words. And when he
says something, he means what he says.

If you want examples of spineless guys (and a couple of gals), who *DON'T*
mean what they say, then read below:





"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction.....So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction
is real"
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam
Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
for
the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to
its
agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence
reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not
yet
achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002


"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf
and we
should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to
weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass
destruction
has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it
will
continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has
also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda
members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the
terrible
events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left
unchecked,
Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological
and
chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American
security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam
Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available
means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has
already
used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to
build
more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear
weapons,
and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." --
John
Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively
to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within
the
next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to
enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that
difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always
underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of
mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002


"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority
to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a
real
and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United
States
and to our allies."
Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean
September 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing
weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002


"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons
of
mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates
of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and
the
means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors
last
visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has
reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological,
chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf
War
status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-
range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." --
From
a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold
Ford,
& Tom Lantos among others..

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to
use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam
and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened
tomorrow." --
Bill Clinton in 1998

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass
destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them
against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that
the
proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave
importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the
development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat
to
countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons
inspection
process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible
intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq
still
has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium
perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and
ballistic
missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these
deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX
substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is
stored
in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq
retains
significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to
rapidly
reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons
Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998






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