Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark you have played a dangerous, treacherous game, and as
bearsbuddy,
you have said some terrible things, that I fear for your eternal
soul.
TnT

****in' God, I don't need no ****in' God, I am God and you are
****ed!

Ron_666

No, the bumper sticker says, " Jesus is coming again, and He is ****ed!"

riverman wrote:
Well, Tom. It seems like you better stir up a stronger
incantation....this whole Satan thing is starting to get a bit out of
control. Hard to imagine that you have no role in it beyond being the
protector of the unwashed.

By the way, what's your take on the Pope dying....good or evil? And
do
I get to blame the Father of Lies for making my girlfriend miss her
flight this morning? I'm undecided if thats good news or bad news. If
its good for me, and bad for her, then who gets the credit or blame?

And to absolve myself of being somehow responsible for all this by
not
putting a stop to it; "Get thee behind me, Ron_666!"

--riverman

"Don't worry my little children, I have overcome the world!" Jesus said
this to encourage his people when things are not going exactly how they
thought it should be going. He is always in control, and there is
nothing that He can not do. He already has the Victory over Satan, and
there is nothing else needed than the Testimony of Jesus, and the Blood
of the Lamb. I have no doubt that you are correct when you say that I
had a role in this current situation. The enemy seeks to attack those
who are a threat to his activity. Those who believe in Jesus will
suffer persecution for their faith.

As far as the Pope dying, people get sick and old and die. I know that
each persons death grieves God. I think it amazing that He could be
standing in line at the pearly gates next to Terri S. May be we will
finally meet up there someday, and I can get you that cup of coffee!

As far as your girl friend missing her flight, that would depend on
whether she was coming to see you or not, and whether that was good or
bad or not. Now if she missed her flight because of something you did,
you could be in the dog house. OTH, if she really wanted to be with you
and not leave, and now she can stay longer because of something you
did, well that could be good. However since you are spending time with
us here on the RBP, and not with her, I have to assume that she missed
her flight coming to see you, and so now you are alone, which would
explain your ****y attitude, which I can completely understand. But
then you said that it was good for you and bad for her, which could
mean you have someone else on the side, and I won't go there, but you
can always blame us here on the RBP, and claim it was our fault all
along.

As to absolving yourself, you did not start this, you cannot stop it,
it is not your resposibility, it is not necessarily your Battle, just
don't play on the Battlefield, or aid the enemy and you should be OK.
IMHO TnT

in article , Tinkerntom
at wrote on 4/1/05 11:49 PM:


KMAN wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

This may be as you and Charlie suggest, and I certainly did not
miss
it. I considered the posibility before getting involved knowing
that
this could bring some derision from you who do not believe, and
as
evidenced by the last few post to this thread. However, in
realizing
the possibility of the setup, I believe there is a common sourse
of
all
darkness, the father of lies, and bearsbuddy may have
inadvertantly
played into his hands, the message is the same. Mark may think
it's
a
game, and you may think it's funny, and charlie may be concerned
enough
to try to set me straight (and I take favorable note of his
concern),
and KMAN may come to the party tooten' his horn about godtalk so
as
to
not be left out, it is none the less, not a game or funny or
trivial or
just godtalk.

I realize that you all can filter out the spam if you desire,
and
that
you are grown men that don't need some body to make decisions
for
you.
OTH, your apparent naivetee indicates to me that it is good that
I
am
here doing exactly what I have done. If I am tilting at
windmills,
there is no damage, if my concern and action is having an
affect,
then
maybe the tiltin' needed to be done. The fact remains that while
other
groups continue to be inundated by Ron038, and Ron_L_Grossi, the
RBP
has remained largly free of his spam since the start of this
thread. If
this were only spam, then what would he care about what I said,
OTH
he
has not only stopped posting here, but he has cancelled his post
that
he had done here. Instead of poking fun, maybe you should
consider
yourself fortunate!

If in fact bearsbuddy has been up to his games, and I am no
closer
to
uncovering the work of Ron038, then bearsbuddy knows that if you
mess
with me about God, that you will receive a full treatment of the
Testimony of Jesus, and the Blood of the Lamb. He should know at
this
point, that I do not consider it a game, or funny, and that
unless
he
desires to give me opportunity to share my understanding, he
should
not
go there in the future. If you think that he is such a nice
funny
guy,
then maybe you should prevail upon him to avoid this behavoir in
the
future. Many OT comments will be ignored, OT comments and
behavior
as
demonstrated recently, by whomever will never be ignored. You
may
deride, or even feel sorry for me and my fervor, but you may
consider
yourself the fortunate beneficiary of being hedged about! TnT


Boo!

So Mote It Be,

Mark, Opie, Bearsbuddy,

God loves you Mark, and He made His Love known to us when He sent
Jesus
to die for us.

I thought geezus and gawd were one in the same, along with the holey
ghost.

So if jesus is god, and god is the omnipotent creator dude, then
what's the
big deal if he killed himself, since, after all, he's omnipotent and
therefore knew all along that he'd just bring himself back to life.
It's
really not all that impressive. Or do I have the story wrong?

Kman, you are sounding unusually agressive and hateful for a neutral
godtalker.

I'm not a godtalker of any kind. The closest I would come is satire.

For some one who does not believe in God, you are expending
a lot of energy on someone who does not exist. Wink-wink, CU TnT

It didn't take much energy at all to figure out that a fable about a god who
kills himself and brings himself back to life is hardly a reason to live
your life in a state of delusion.

KMAN wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 4/1/05 11:49 PM:


KMAN wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

This may be as you and Charlie suggest, and I certainly did not
miss
it. I considered the posibility before getting involved knowing
that
this could bring some derision from you who do not believe, and
as
evidenced by the last few post to this thread. However, in
realizing
the possibility of the setup, I believe there is a common
sourse
of
all
darkness, the father of lies, and bearsbuddy may have
inadvertantly
played into his hands, the message is the same. Mark may think
it's
a
game, and you may think it's funny, and charlie may be
concerned
enough
to try to set me straight (and I take favorable note of his
concern),
and KMAN may come to the party tooten' his horn about godtalk
so
as
to
not be left out, it is none the less, not a game or funny or
trivial or
just godtalk.

I realize that you all can filter out the spam if you desire,
and
that
you are grown men that don't need some body to make decisions
for
you.
OTH, your apparent naivetee indicates to me that it is good
that
I
am
here doing exactly what I have done. If I am tilting at
windmills,
there is no damage, if my concern and action is having an
affect,
then
maybe the tiltin' needed to be done. The fact remains that
while
other
groups continue to be inundated by Ron038, and Ron_L_Grossi,
the
RBP
has remained largly free of his spam since the start of this
thread. If
this were only spam, then what would he care about what I said,
OTH
he
has not only stopped posting here, but he has cancelled his
post
that
he had done here. Instead of poking fun, maybe you should
consider
yourself fortunate!

If in fact bearsbuddy has been up to his games, and I am no
closer
to
uncovering the work of Ron038, then bearsbuddy knows that if
you
mess
with me about God, that you will receive a full treatment of
the
Testimony of Jesus, and the Blood of the Lamb. He should know
at
this
point, that I do not consider it a game, or funny, and that
unless
he
desires to give me opportunity to share my understanding, he
should
not
go there in the future. If you think that he is such a nice
funny
guy,
then maybe you should prevail upon him to avoid this behavoir
in
the
future. Many OT comments will be ignored, OT comments and
behavior
as
demonstrated recently, by whomever will never be ignored. You
may
deride, or even feel sorry for me and my fervor, but you may
consider
yourself the fortunate beneficiary of being hedged about! TnT


Boo!

So Mote It Be,

Mark, Opie, Bearsbuddy,

God loves you Mark, and He made His Love known to us when He sent
Jesus
to die for us.

I thought geezus and gawd were one in the same, along with the
holey
ghost.

So if jesus is god, and god is the omnipotent creator dude, then
what's the
big deal if he killed himself, since, after all, he's omnipotent
and
therefore knew all along that he'd just bring himself back to
life.
It's
really not all that impressive. Or do I have the story wrong?

Kman, you are sounding unusually agressive and hateful for a
neutral
godtalker.

I'm not a godtalker of any kind. The closest I would come is satire.

For some one who does not believe in God, you are expending
a lot of energy on someone who does not exist. Wink-wink, CU TnT

It didn't take much energy at all to figure out that a fable about a
god who
kills himself and brings himself back to life is hardly a reason to
live
your life in a state of delusion.

So why do you live in your state of delusion?

Like I said, Wink-wink, CU TnT

"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark you have played a dangerous, treacherous game, and as
bearsbuddy,
you have said some terrible things, that I fear for your eternal
soul.
TnT

****in' God, I don't need no ****in' God, I am God and you are
****ed!

Ron_666

No, the bumper sticker says, " Jesus is coming again, and He is ****ed!"

Bumper stickers are for the infidels, I'm here already and I don't get
****ed!

Ron_God

wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark you have played a dangerous, treacherous game, and as
bearsbuddy,
you have said some terrible things, that I fear for your eternal
soul.
TnT

****in' God, I don't need no ****in' God, I am God and you are
****ed!

Ron_666

No, the bumper sticker says, " Jesus is coming again, and He is
****ed!"

Bumper stickers are for the infidels, I'm here already and I don't
get
****ed!

Ron_God

Wise men test facts
to see if they are true
But it is
the All Almighty who test men
to see which ones will be true.

No, Mark, you are a foul mouthed, vile spirit, that needs to have your
sin forgiven by Jesus, turn to Him before it is to late. His soul
cleasing Blood, will cleanse your heart and soul. Jesus is coming
again, and you may play your games, that some may even find cute, but I
will be praying for you that you would turn to Jesus before it is to
late, and you meet Him face to face! He will not think your games are
cute at all, for this is the Sin, that put Him on the Cross dying for
us all. God Loves you, He knows your heart, and you can not hide from
Him by your foolishnes. His Blood will set you free from Sin and Death
and the Grave, for He is risen in Victory, and now lives in us by His
Holy Spirit!

If I have done anything to keep you from turning to Jesus, I pray that
Jesus would forgive me, and give me the words to somehow reach you, and
be a messenger of His Grace to you. God Loves you, and God Loves me,
and I pray that you could know the love of God that He showed us when
He sent Jesus to die for our Sin and sins. Jesus shed his blood so that
we could know Him, and know His Grace and Love! TnT

"Tinkerntom" wrote in news:1112536181.915089.78740
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark you have played a dangerous, treacherous game, and as
bearsbuddy, you have said some terrible things, that I fear for
your eternal soul. TnT

****in' God, I don't need no ****in' God, I am God and you are
****ed!

Ron_666

No, the bumper sticker says, " Jesus is coming again, and He is
****ed!"

Bumper stickers are for the infidels, I'm here already and I don't get
****ed!

Ron_God

Wise men test facts
to see if they are true
But it is
the All Almighty who test men
to see which ones will be true.

No, Mark, you are a foul mouthed, vile spirit, that needs to have your
sin forgiven by Jesus, turn to Him before it is to late. His soul
cleasing Blood, will cleanse your heart and soul. Jesus is coming
again, and you may play your games, that some may even find cute...

Over in rec.boats.paddle.touring you wrote:

I hate OT posting, and this being a thread about "can we talk about
paddling now?", but I will venture to stray a little into that
dangerous chop. :)

Does that not apply to the group or is it only okay when you participate in
OT threads?

John Fereira wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in news:1112536181.915089.78740
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark you have played a dangerous, treacherous game, and as
bearsbuddy, you have said some terrible things, that I fear
for
your eternal soul. TnT

****in' God, I don't need no ****in' God, I am God and you are
****ed!

Ron_666

No, the bumper sticker says, " Jesus is coming again, and He is
****ed!"

Bumper stickers are for the infidels, I'm here already and I don't
get
****ed!

Ron_God

Wise men test facts
to see if they are true
But it is
the All Almighty who test men
to see which ones will be true.

No, Mark, you are a foul mouthed, vile spirit, that needs to have
your
sin forgiven by Jesus, turn to Him before it is to late. His soul
cleasing Blood, will cleanse your heart and soul. Jesus is coming
again, and you may play your games, that some may even find cute...

Over in rec.boats.paddle.touring you wrote:

I hate OT posting, and this being a thread about "can we talk
about
paddling now?", but I will venture to stray a little into that
dangerous chop. :)

Does that not apply to the group or is it only okay when you
participate in
OT threads?

Hi John, I always appreciate your input and look forward to your on
topic and informative post. I try to restrict my OT comment to OT
threads, and I will never start an OT thread like we have seen with
Ron038, or his impostors. There are numerous trolls that I choose not
to feed, however there are certain comments that I am not free to let
slide.

I apologize to you for any difficulty this causes you, and if you have
any power of persuasion to convince the offending parties to refraim, I
will accept assistance from any quarter. I realize that as respected as
you are, these parties will most likely not comply with any request for
civility. I have seen their activity in other groups, and suggest that
we can be glad here in the RBP that the OT posting is restricted to
certain threads. In the other groups, I have seen where every thread
breaks down into OT posting and continuous flaming.

I much prefer the fun of paddling and talking paddling with those of
you who enjoy paddling as well. When I first came here, I lurked for
along time before ever jumping in, just content to learn from you
masters. I had no thought of this being any sort of a mission field,
though I acknowledge now that was mistaken thinking on my part even
then, for where ever we go, becomes our missionfield. Then in November
2004, I got started posting, on an OT thread started by the riverman
that got under my skin.

Since that time I have tried to stay uninvolved in the political
threads, picking my fights for those things I believe are worth
fighting for. Even the recent thread about Canadian medical insurance,
etc, I have specifically steered clear of, as being of little interest
to me. The recent thread regarding and targeting SW, I ended by
talking about reed boats, and it seems to be staying ended.

I do take note of your concern, and hope with the paddlng season being
here, we will hear alot more about on topic paddling discussions. I
would be glad to see you start more threads, and share some of your
good stories. TnT

"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wise men test facts
to see if they are true
But it is
the All Almighty who test men
to see which ones will be true.

No, Mark, you are a foul mouthed, vile spirit, that needs to have your
sin forgiven by Jesus, turn to Him before it is to late. His soul
cleasing Blood, will cleanse your heart and soul. Jesus is coming
again, and you may play your games, that some may even find cute, but I
will be praying for you that you would turn to Jesus before it is to
late, and you meet Him face to face! He will not think your games are
cute at all, for this is the Sin, that put Him on the Cross dying for
us all. God Loves you, He knows your heart, and you can not hide from
Him by your foolishnes. His Blood will set you free from Sin and Death
and the Grave, for He is risen in Victory, and now lives in us by His
Holy Spirit!

If I have done anything to keep you from turning to Jesus, I pray that
Jesus would forgive me, and give me the words to somehow reach you, and
be a messenger of His Grace to you. God Loves you, and God Loves me,
and I pray that you could know the love of God that He showed us when
He sent Jesus to die for our Sin and sins. Jesus shed his blood so that
we could know Him, and know His Grace and Love! TnT

If you weren't such a moron, who feels compelled to force his brand of
godspeak upon others, I wouldn't **** with ya. But alas, you must exorcise
those demons in you head, must you not?

Now take your god and shove him where the sun don't shine--i.e., up your
arse.

Ron_God_666

wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wise men test facts
to see if they are true
But it is
the All Almighty who test men
to see which ones will be true.

No, Mark, you are a foul mouthed, vile spirit, that needs to have
your
sin forgiven by Jesus, turn to Him before it is to late. His soul
cleasing Blood, will cleanse your heart and soul. Jesus is coming
again, and you may play your games, that some may even find cute,
but I
will be praying for you that you would turn to Jesus before it is
to
late, and you meet Him face to face! He will not think your games
are
cute at all, for this is the Sin, that put Him on the Cross dying
for
us all. God Loves you, He knows your heart, and you can not hide
from
Him by your foolishnes. His Blood will set you free from Sin and
Death
and the Grave, for He is risen in Victory, and now lives in us by
His
Holy Spirit!

If I have done anything to keep you from turning to Jesus, I pray
that
Jesus would forgive me, and give me the words to somehow reach you,
and
be a messenger of His Grace to you. God Loves you, and God Loves
me,
and I pray that you could know the love of God that He showed us
when
He sent Jesus to die for our Sin and sins. Jesus shed his blood so
that
we could know Him, and know His Grace and Love! TnT

If you weren't such a moron, who feels compelled to force his brand
of
godspeak upon others, I wouldn't **** with ya. But alas, you must
exorcise
those demons in you head, must you not?

Now take your god and shove him where the sun don't shine--i.e., up
your
arse.

Ron_God_666

Mark, if you weren't such a fool, who feels compelled to force his
brand of anti-godspeak upon everyone, I would not be as compelled to
tell you about the Love of God, and the Blood of Jesus that was shed
for the forgiveness of your Sin and sins, but I hear a call for help in
your very protest! And I will continue to exercise the demons that
plague your corrupt mind and vile spirit, with the Testimony of Jesus,
and the Blood of the Lamb, and I know that His light will Shine in the
darkness of your soul.

I love to tell you about the Love of God, and your vileness only
convinces me that I am right on target with the Blood of Jesus, the
Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. You may be offensive
in what you say, but the Aroma of God's Grace sweetens the most bitter,
foul and corrupt water. I marvel even more at His Great Love, when
compared to the alternatives that your sort have to offer.

God Loves you, and I continue to pray for you! TnT