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![]() "JimH" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:51:48 -0500, HKrause wrote: John H wrote: On 21 Mar 2005 18:13:59 -0800, wrote: So riddle me this: Democratic administration. Elio Gonzales is living with some relatives in FLA. Father is demanding return of Elio to his home in Cuba. Democratic AG Janet Reno steps in and says the federal government has the power to intervene in this family issue between the Dad and the FLA relatives.......and the conservatives are so po'd they can't see straight. The right wing says this is a family matter, should be covered by state law, and the FEDGOV has no business interfering. Republican administration. Terri Sciavo's husband and *nineteen* judges in FLA state courts have said her brain dead body should no longer be kept alive with a feeding tube. Congress passes an emergency bill overriding the husband and the nineteen decisions made by FLA state judges, and Bush flies back from Texas, in his pajamas at 1:00 AM, to sign it. What happened to being PO'd at the Federal government for intervening in a family matter and the insistence that this should be decided at the state level, not federal? Why is BIGGUMINT suddenly better than carefully considered local decisions? Could it be that there was political hay to be made by opposing the FEDGOV in the Gonzales case, but that political haymaking is more lucrative on the other side of the issue in the Sciavo situation? Values should be consistent, not merely expedient. Anything that is bad for the other side is good. Anything good (or potentially good) for the other side is bad. Simple values. It's the same rationale used for the posting of soldiers getting killed in Iraq. That's right. We shouldn't reminded that US men and women are dying almost daily in Iraq, fighting Bush's dirty war. BTW, the federal judge in Florida has turned down the request to reinsert the brain-dead woman's feeding tube. Finally, a federal official with a backbone. Now, I suppose, the right-wing panderers will want the case certed to the Eleventh Circuit in Atlanta... Stay tuned. I'll try to respond to you without the offensive invective you find so necessary. Scott Peterson case will go as high as the Supreme Court, if not overturned sooner. Why should Sciavo's not go as high? She is entitled to due process, at least as much as Peterson. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Krause is once again taking joy in reporting about death, this time of not only of our troops but also of the death sentence just handed down to Terri Shiavo. edit |
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One thing I can't stand about you right-wing nutbags is your perfect
willingness to twist facts and ignore scientific evidence whenever and wherever it suits your needs. As any competent internist would be more than happy to tell you is that this sort of fracture response is a relatively common osteoporosis-mediated response in comatose patients and is often a result of prolonged tetanus (severe involuntary muscle contractions) caused by electrolyte imbalance. I would point out that an electrolyte imbalance is exactly what put this person in a vegetative coma to begin with. This nonsense is being propagated, purely, solely and only for political gain, by the republican conservatives that are running our country all to score more votes from the right-to-life hard-right religious base. This sad and painful nonsense is being orchestrated by George Bush and his cohorts who, while he was Governor of Texas facilitated a bill allowing for-profit hospitals to discontinue feeding, for comatose patients who were indigent, broke, or whose health insurance had run out - even against family wishes. Bush is a callous and uncaring politician who works for the uber-wealthy money changers who have polluted god's temple and who personally doesn't give a rat's ass about the common working family struggling to put bread on the table. Bush is nothing more than a hypocrite who will surely burn in hell for his crimes. "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven". Bush's cuts to medicare would ensure that people like Terri would never even get 3 months of care much less for 14 years! In addition his proposal to limit malpractice claims would mean that no one would be able to claim the type of money that has kept Terri under 24-7 care for the past 14 years. Terri is being made to needlessly suffer for nothing more that cheap political shots to gather more republican votes. If she wasn't famous and if her family hadn't been adopted by the well-funded right-to-life coalition and if the republicans didn't think they could score some votes, Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Free hint to the clueless...................it was Terri's parents that have prolong the issue for the last decade. |
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![]() "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Clue: There is still some detritus who consider Bush to be their leader. They drool and nod their heads in agreement every time he opens his mouth. He should not have said one single word about the woman, and he should've ordered his sitters and Congress to do exactly the same thing. |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:43:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Clue: There is still some detritus who consider Bush to be their leader. They drool and nod their heads in agreement every time he opens his mouth. He should not have said one single word about the woman, and he should've ordered his sitters and Congress to do exactly the same thing. Why should she *not* have had as much protection as a convicted murderer? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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![]() "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:43:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Clue: There is still some detritus who consider Bush to be their leader. They drool and nod their heads in agreement every time he opens his mouth. He should not have said one single word about the woman, and he should've ordered his sitters and Congress to do exactly the same thing. Why should she *not* have had as much protection as a convicted murderer? Why shouldn't congress decide how often you can get laid? |
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![]() "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:43:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Clue: There is still some detritus who consider Bush to be their leader. They drool and nod their heads in agreement every time he opens his mouth. He should not have said one single word about the woman, and he should've ordered his sitters and Congress to do exactly the same thing. Why should she *not* have had as much protection as a convicted murderer? -- John H Exactly. As I said before folks on death row are afforded more rights than Terri received. Hopefully folks will now see the importance of having a Living Will and being specific on how they define "life support". |
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![]() "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... big snip of liebral whining Terri would have been allowed to pass on peacefully and gracefully a long time ago. And this is Bush's fault how? Clue: There is still some detritus who consider Bush to be their leader. They drool and nod their heads in agreement every time he opens his mouth. He should not have said one single word about the woman, and he should've ordered his sitters and Congress to do exactly the same thing. |
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