On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

Isn't Quonset Point, the Home of the Seabees, still there?

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

Isn't Quonset Point, the Home of the Seabees, still there?

Dunno. I'm still dealing with the flu. I expect to be catered to for a few
more days. Let me know what you find out about this Navy base. And, send
over a couple of lap dancers or something.

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:33:26 -0500, HarryKrause
wrote:

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"Patty" O'Furniture?

Hey, I realize it is the Day for Wearing the Green, but there's no need
to crossdress

You never know. :)

Later,

Tom

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:31:22 -0500, thunder
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

Isn't Quonset Point, the Home of the Seabees, still there?

Quonset is still there but has been closed for a while. I believe
there is a ANG group there, but not sure.

Later,

Tom

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Patty O'Furniture" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:02:48 -0600, Richard J Kinch
wrote:

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He did remark that the buoys
300 ft off the shoreline were put in only a year or two ago. Now I wonder
if there wasn't a 9/11 super-security justification for some new strict
regulations.

That's a good point. I know over in Narragansett Bay, the bridge
restrictions are no stopping, anchoring or trolling within 500 feet of
the bridges and the Navy base shore. The shore line is bouyed, but
the bridges aren't.

They aren't enforcing it though - it almost impossible to.

Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

It's the Navy's Antisubmarine Warfare Center in Newport, RI. Entering
the Bay from East Passage, it's right after the Newport Bridge on the
Starboard side.

I'm pretty sure it was there in the '70s.

Later,

Tom

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:02:48 -0600, Richard J Kinch
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

He did remark that the buoys
300 ft off the shoreline were put in only a year or two ago. Now I
wonder
if there wasn't a 9/11 super-security justification for some new strict
regulations.

That's a good point. I know over in Narragansett Bay, the bridge
restrictions are no stopping, anchoring or trolling within 500 feet of
the bridges and the Navy base shore. The shore line is bouyed, but
the bridges aren't.

They aren't enforcing it though - it almost impossible to.

Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

It's the Navy's Antisubmarine Warfare Center in Newport, RI. Entering
the Bay from East Passage, it's right after the Newport Bridge on the
Starboard side.

I'm pretty sure it was there in the '70s.

Later,

Tom

I must've been making a sandwich. But, I was pretty attentive to notes on
the charts, especially since my father once drove us right through an area
where there was a target practice ship parked, and got a rather terse
talking to from a sub. Pretty funny, at least to my sister and I. :-) Dad
was not amused.

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Patty O'Furniture" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:02:48 -0600, Richard J Kinch
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

He did remark that the buoys
300 ft off the shoreline were put in only a year or two ago. Now I
wonder
if there wasn't a 9/11 super-security justification for some new strict
regulations.

That's a good point. I know over in Narragansett Bay, the bridge
restrictions are no stopping, anchoring or trolling within 500 feet of
the bridges and the Navy base shore. The shore line is bouyed, but
the bridges aren't.

They aren't enforcing it though - it almost impossible to.

Navy base in N-Bay? Was it installed after 1970, or was I below, making a
sandwich when my dad cruised us through the bay way back then?

It's the Navy's Antisubmarine Warfare Center in Newport, RI. Entering
the Bay from East Passage, it's right after the Newport Bridge on the
Starboard side.

I'm pretty sure it was there in the '70s.

Later,

Tom

I must've been making a sandwich. But, I was pretty attentive to notes on
the charts, especially since my father once drove us right through an area
where there was a target practice ship parked, and got a rather terse
talking to from a sub. Pretty funny, at least to my sister and I. :-) Dad
was not amused.


Before the correction robots get all fussy, I should add that this area was
not in N-Bay, but out in the Block Island Sound, if I recall, maybe halfway
between BI and Montauk, maybe somewhat north of a line drawn between those
two places.

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:23:03 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

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Before the correction robots get all fussy, I should add that this area was
not in N-Bay, but out in the Block Island Sound, if I recall, maybe halfway
between BI and Montauk, maybe somewhat north of a line drawn between those
two places.

Yep - it's called a torpedo range. Purple colored area on the chart.

There are four of them in that area :)

Later,

Tom

"Dan Harris" wrote in message
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Is there a boater vs swimmer lobby?


The buoys are there to indicate to boaters that they may not approach
closer than 300 feet from the beach.

This form of local ordinance is fairly common along the beaches in
southeast Florida and includes parts of Pompano Beach and Ft.
Lauderdale as well as other municipalities.

The intent is to limit the interaction between propellers and
swimmers! This is along the unprotected ocean. It is a dangerous and
risky practice to allow boaters along the surf line in close proximity
to swimmers.

This has nothing to do with fishing or 9/11.

HTH

Dan

Probably nobody here will talk to me ever again, but this regulation sounds
like a good idea. Combine swimmers, propellors, booze and an average
frequency of stupid operators which we can assume is no different than
automobile drivers, and you've got a reason to be concerned.

"Dan Harris" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:10:13 -0600, Richard J Kinch
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I was dismayed to learn today that the beach from Pompano Beach to
Lauderdale-by-the-Sea is a "vessel exclusion" zone. The buoys say
"Ordinance 389" or some such, but Google turns up nothing relevant on
"exclusion zones" for "Flordia", "389", "Broward", "Lauderdale", etc.

This means I can't stop at my mom's private beachfront condominium and
pick
up passengers with a (motorized) dinghy at the beach. Nor can you fish
from the beach! As soon as I tried beaching today, a state boat appeared
withing seconds and gave me a warning. (Apparently there are busybodies
in
the buildings ashore that phone 911 if you try it.) The officer said you
can't even raise the outboard and oar yourself in, you can't have any
power
available on the boat, not even an electric trolling motor.

When did Florida start outlawing fishing and boating from the beach?

Just how does one find such picayune, strictly local laws?

Is there a boater vs swimmer lobby?


The buoys are there to indicate to boaters that they may not approach
closer than 300 feet from the beach.

This form of local ordinance is fairly common along the beaches in
southeast Florida and includes parts of Pompano Beach and Ft.
Lauderdale as well as other municipalities.

The intent is to limit the interaction between propellers and
swimmers! This is along the unprotected ocean. It is a dangerous and
risky practice to allow boaters along the surf line in close proximity
to swimmers.

This has nothing to do with fishing or 9/11.

HTH

Dan
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Dan Harris


I agree with your logic Dan. However, if an entire stretch of beach is
closed off to boaters then tit is being taken to an extreme.

We have the some restrictions at certain beach areas on Lake Erie, such as
at Cedar Point beach, Huntington beach, Edgewater beach and at the north end
of Kelley's Island. We would normally just got to one end of the restricted
area, set anchor at about 4 feet and then pull the boat closer to shore
(perhaps to waist deep water) with a stern line and then set a stern anchor.
That way we could enjoy the beach while having the comforts of the boat at
hand.