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tony thomas March 13th 05 07:34 PM

I have a 2003 Trail Blazer EXT w/ the I6 and it does fine towing my 3500 lbs
Eliminator. Also does good towing my dads 4400 lbs pontoon boat. The V8
has a lot more torque. Rated for 7000 lbs should do fine at 6000 or under.

I doubt your 96 Blazer had a V8 w/ 300 hp and 330 lb-ft of torque.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:vAYYd.124957$4q6.46916@attbi_s01...
A 22' Crestliner was a heavy big boat. It is not like your aluminum jet
boat. It has a lot more interior and wood in the hull.

Not sure what an X-30 is. My guess is the boat w/ motor and fuel and

etc..
will weight in at close to 4500 lbs. The trailer will weight 1500 for a

22'
boat w/ tandum axle.

Even if your right - 3500 lbs towing on a Rendezvous will not work.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
om...
I have to agree with you Bill. My buddy has an X-30 (~22ft) that doesn't
quite hit 5000# with gas.

--Mike

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:SqOYd.63216$r55.11081@attbi_s52...
Boat, trailer, battery (or batteries), fuel, life jackets, etc...
will
put
this boat at 6000 lbs if not more. You really need to get it
weighted
at
a
local truck scale to know for sure. I would hope you have a friend

who
has
a truck you could use for a couple of hours. You want something with

a
towing capacity of 7000 or more to be able to maintain a decent speed
with
it.

Since the Rendezvous equipped with the optional towing package is
only
rated
for 3500 lbs - Definetly not.

The extended length Trail Blazer / Envoy w/ the V8 is rated to 7000

lbs
which should work fine.

Also I am sure the Expedition, Yukon, etc.. are probably rated about

the
same or more and would work fine in an SUV. Otherwise - full size
pickup
w/
V8 engine.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to

haul
it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no
longer
make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good
tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the
price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the
Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?



I doubt it is that heavy. Probably more in the 4500# range. My 21'
Inboard
aluminum jetboat (0.190 thick metal) weighs in about #4400 on the

trailer
with 67 gallons of gas and fishing gear.







Even the trail Blazer will be questionable. I towed my boat with a 1996
Blazer and the mountains above 3500' were bad. My Expedition towed it
great, except the milage sucked. 1999 Expedition 4x4 is for sale ($15000
obo for (ok basskisser)). But my Duramax Crew cab tows like nothing is
there, and gets 18 mpg at 65-70 on the freeway. But the price is not
cheap!





Calif Bill March 13th 05 10:08 PM

Nope, it had 195 hp and the V6. But you also knew the boat was back there
when towing and stopping.
Bill

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:mB0Zd.65308$r55.58646@attbi_s52...
I have a 2003 Trail Blazer EXT w/ the I6 and it does fine towing my 3500

lbs
Eliminator. Also does good towing my dads 4400 lbs pontoon boat. The V8
has a lot more torque. Rated for 7000 lbs should do fine at 6000 or

under.

I doubt your 96 Blazer had a V8 w/ 300 hp and 330 lb-ft of torque.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:vAYYd.124957$4q6.46916@attbi_s01...
A 22' Crestliner was a heavy big boat. It is not like your aluminum

jet
boat. It has a lot more interior and wood in the hull.

Not sure what an X-30 is. My guess is the boat w/ motor and fuel and

etc..
will weight in at close to 4500 lbs. The trailer will weight 1500 for

a
22'
boat w/ tandum axle.

Even if your right - 3500 lbs towing on a Rendezvous will not work.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"mgg" wrote in message
om...
I have to agree with you Bill. My buddy has an X-30 (~22ft) that

doesn't
quite hit 5000# with gas.

--Mike

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:SqOYd.63216$r55.11081@attbi_s52...
Boat, trailer, battery (or batteries), fuel, life jackets, etc...
will
put
this boat at 6000 lbs if not more. You really need to get it
weighted
at
a
local truck scale to know for sure. I would hope you have a friend

who
has
a truck you could use for a couple of hours. You want something

with
a
towing capacity of 7000 or more to be able to maintain a decent

speed
with
it.

Since the Rendezvous equipped with the optional towing package is
only
rated
for 3500 lbs - Definetly not.

The extended length Trail Blazer / Envoy w/ the V8 is rated to 7000

lbs
which should work fine.

Also I am sure the Expedition, Yukon, etc.. are probably rated

about
the
same or more and would work fine in an SUV. Otherwise - full size
pickup
w/
V8 engine.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to

haul
it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no
longer
make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably

good
tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given

the
price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the
Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?



I doubt it is that heavy. Probably more in the 4500# range. My 21'
Inboard
aluminum jetboat (0.190 thick metal) weighs in about #4400 on the

trailer
with 67 gallons of gas and fishing gear.







Even the trail Blazer will be questionable. I towed my boat with a 1996
Blazer and the mountains above 3500' were bad. My Expedition towed it
great, except the milage sucked. 1999 Expedition 4x4 is for sale

($15000
obo for (ok basskisser)). But my Duramax Crew cab tows like nothing is
there, and gets 18 mpg at 65-70 on the freeway. But the price is not
cheap!







del cecchi March 14th 05 04:17 AM


"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:SqOYd.63216$r55.11081@attbi_s52...
Boat, trailer, battery (or batteries), fuel, life jackets, etc... will

put
this boat at 6000 lbs if not more. You really need to get it weighted

at a
local truck scale to know for sure. I would hope you have a friend

who has
a truck you could use for a couple of hours. You want something with

a
towing capacity of 7000 or more to be able to maintain a decent speed

with
it.

Since the Rendezvous equipped with the optional towing package is only

rated
for 3500 lbs - Definetly not.

The extended length Trail Blazer / Envoy w/ the V8 is rated to 7000

lbs
which should work fine.

Also I am sure the Expedition, Yukon, etc.. are probably rated about

the
same or more and would work fine in an SUV. Otherwise - full size

pickup w/
V8 engine.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to

haul it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer

make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good

tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the

price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the

Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?


How about calling Crestliner here in Minnesota? You might be surprised
at how helpfull they would be.

My guess is you will need at least 5000 lb of capacity, which means
pickup or SUV type vehicle.

del cecchi




Jim, March 14th 05 10:45 AM

del cecchi wrote:
"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:SqOYd.63216$r55.11081@attbi_s52...

Boat, trailer, battery (or batteries), fuel, life jackets, etc... will


put

this boat at 6000 lbs if not more. You really need to get it weighted


at a

local truck scale to know for sure. I would hope you have a friend


who has

a truck you could use for a couple of hours. You want something with


a

towing capacity of 7000 or more to be able to maintain a decent speed


with

it.

Since the Rendezvous equipped with the optional towing package is only


rated

for 3500 lbs - Definetly not.

The extended length Trail Blazer / Envoy w/ the V8 is rated to 7000


lbs

which should work fine.

Also I am sure the Expedition, Yukon, etc.. are probably rated about


the

same or more and would work fine in an SUV. Otherwise - full size


pickup w/

V8 engine.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"Jim," wrote in message
...

I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to


haul it

with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer


make

cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good


tow

vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the


price

of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the


Buick

Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?


How about calling Crestliner here in Minnesota? You might be surprised
at how helpfull they would be.

My guess is you will need at least 5000 lb of capacity, which means
pickup or SUV type vehicle.

del cecchi



I did send an email to "service" -- no response. Got a phone number?

Dave Hall March 14th 05 07:14 PM

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:28:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to haul it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?


Head over to the library research area and get a copy of BUC for 1981 boats.
The information should be listed there under the Crestliner boat section.

If not try http://www.buc.com/


Quick question about their info. BUC's website shows my 19' Sea-Pro
cuddy at 1,600 lbs. That seems way low. I realize it would not include
gas or gear, but do their numbers include the engine ? (i have a small
4 cly. I/O) and out-drive? I have estimated my boat with trailer, etc.
at around 3,500 lbs. From the listed weight of 1,600 to estimated
3,500 would require a LOT of trailer and gas but could be realistic if
you have to add the weight of the engine and drive.

Dave Hall

Calif Bill March 14th 05 07:43 PM

Does not include engine from what I understand. I have a 6000# capacity
tandem trailer and it weighs 1100#, and the outdrive motor is probably in
the 700# minimum range.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:28:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to haul

it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer

make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the

price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?


Head over to the library research area and get a copy of BUC for 1981

boats.
The information should be listed there under the Crestliner boat section.

If not try http://www.buc.com/


Quick question about their info. BUC's website shows my 19' Sea-Pro
cuddy at 1,600 lbs. That seems way low. I realize it would not include
gas or gear, but do their numbers include the engine ? (i have a small
4 cly. I/O) and out-drive? I have estimated my boat with trailer, etc.
at around 3,500 lbs. From the listed weight of 1,600 to estimated
3,500 would require a LOT of trailer and gas but could be realistic if
you have to add the weight of the engine and drive.

Dave Hall




JimH March 14th 05 07:55 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Does not include engine from what I understand. I have a 6000# capacity
tandem trailer and it weighs 1100#, and the outdrive motor is probably in
the 700# minimum range.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:28:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to haul

it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer

make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good
tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the

price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the
Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?

Head over to the library research area and get a copy of BUC for 1981

boats.
The information should be listed there under the Crestliner boat
section.

If not try http://www.buc.com/


Quick question about their info. BUC's website shows my 19' Sea-Pro
cuddy at 1,600 lbs. That seems way low. I realize it would not include
gas or gear, but do their numbers include the engine ? (i have a small
4 cly. I/O) and out-drive? I have estimated my boat with trailer, etc.
at around 3,500 lbs. From the listed weight of 1,600 to estimated
3,500 would require a LOT of trailer and gas but could be realistic if
you have to add the weight of the engine and drive.

Dave Hall




I would have though it would include the engine and outdrive, but perhaps
Bill knows better.



DSK March 14th 05 08:08 PM

Jim, wrote:
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to haul
it with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer
make cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the
price of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the
Buick Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?


I would second the advice to actually weight the boat, motor, & trailer
on a truck scale... only cost $5 when I did it... and the result will be
very much worth knowing. IMHO most trailer boats, when rolling, weigh
between 150% and 200% of what their quoted displacement is.

Most boats leave the factory much heavier than their specs and they only
gain weight over the years.

Another bit of advice when shopping for a tow vehicle... remember that
the mfg'ers quoted 'tow limit' is what the car will pull one time on the
level for maybe 100 yards before the tranny and/or rear end starts
spitting out little pieces. Match your boats weight, as figured above,
to 75% of rated tow capacity, and definitely put in a tranny cooler.

Another thing to remember is that you have to stop it as well as pull it
up the ramp!

Fair Skies
Doug King


Calif Bill March 15th 05 04:54 AM

Most all boat weight specs say not including engine. May include outdrive,
but the power can very so much on the same boat, I do not see how they can
include engine.
Bill

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Does not include engine from what I understand. I have a 6000# capacity
tandem trailer and it weighs 1100#, and the outdrive motor is probably

in
the 700# minimum range.

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:28:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...
I mentioned I got a 22' crestliner this year. I need something to

haul
it
with ( my Chevy Caviler is NOT gonna do it).

I've tried researching on the net, but Crestliner seems to no longer

make
cruisers (the boat I got is an 81)

How do I find the weight, and can someone suggest a reasonably good
tow
vehicle, that will also serve for daily use around town. Given the

price
of gas, millage will be a consideration. I like the looks of the
Buick
Rendezvous, but is the towing capacity sufficient?

Head over to the library research area and get a copy of BUC for 1981

boats.
The information should be listed there under the Crestliner boat
section.

If not try http://www.buc.com/


Quick question about their info. BUC's website shows my 19' Sea-Pro
cuddy at 1,600 lbs. That seems way low. I realize it would not include
gas or gear, but do their numbers include the engine ? (i have a small
4 cly. I/O) and out-drive? I have estimated my boat with trailer, etc.
at around 3,500 lbs. From the listed weight of 1,600 to estimated
3,500 would require a LOT of trailer and gas but could be realistic if
you have to add the weight of the engine and drive.

Dave Hall




I would have though it would include the engine and outdrive, but perhaps
Bill knows better.





-rick- March 15th 05 05:20 AM

Calif Bill wrote:

... But my Duramax Crew cab tows like nothing is
there, and gets 18 mpg at 65-70 on the freeway.


Just to clarify, are you getting 18 mpg while towing your Jetcraft?

-rick-


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