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Doug Kanter March 10th 05 07:44 PM

"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?


I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.


I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military


snip

The strong military you're buying now will be staffed by none other than
your children. No matter WHAT the cause, you won't want them there to fight
it.



Calif Bill March 10th 05 07:47 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?



NOYB wrote:
I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.

I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military,


How about money squandered on pointless slaughter, while obscene profits
are not only raked in by favored industries... and troops go without
needed equipment... but those same favored companies commit fraud &
outright theft?


You really have a warped view of what's really going on.


You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what entity, it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan. You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a tax!



NOYB March 10th 05 08:12 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?


I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.


I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military


snip

The strong military you're buying now will be staffed by none other than
your children. No matter WHAT the cause, you won't want them there to
fight it.


I'd like to see our military spending increased to the point where we can
create completely automated weaponry that can be controlled by "soldiers"
well out of harm's way. We already have pilotless drones carrying warheads,
unmanned ground vehicles, and Tomahawk missiles capable of firing from
hundreds of miles away with near-pin-point accuracy. We're in the early
development phase of battlefield robots that will be able to do the
street-to-street fighting being done in Iraq.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...armyrobot.html






NOYB March 10th 05 08:16 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will
always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?



NOYB wrote:
I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.

I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military,

How about money squandered on pointless slaughter, while obscene
profits
are not only raked in by favored industries... and troops go without
needed equipment... but those same favored companies commit fraud &
outright theft?


You really have a warped view of what's really going on.


You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what entity,
it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan.


But we're not "borrowing forever". A country will have economic ups and
downs. In the "down" years, net tax receipts fall, and deficits surge. In
the "up" years, net receipts rise, and the deficits shrink. Since a country
like the US has an infinite lifespan, *AND A CONSTANTLY EXPANDING ECONOMY*,
it can weather long, long periods of deficits without any adverse affects.



You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a tax!



And what is the current inflation rate in the United States?



Calif Bill March 11th 05 12:02 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will
always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?



NOYB wrote:
I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.

I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military,

How about money squandered on pointless slaughter, while obscene
profits
are not only raked in by favored industries... and troops go without
needed equipment... but those same favored companies commit fraud &
outright theft?


You really have a warped view of what's really going on.


You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what

entity,
it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan.


But we're not "borrowing forever". A country will have economic ups and
downs. In the "down" years, net tax receipts fall, and deficits surge.

In
the "up" years, net receipts rise, and the deficits shrink. Since a

country
like the US has an infinite lifespan, *AND A CONSTANTLY EXPANDING

ECONOMY*,
it can weather long, long periods of deficits without any adverse affects.



You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a tax!



And what is the current inflation rate in the United States?



About 2.5%. What was the unexceptable inflation rate when Nixon put in wage
and price controls? 3.5%. At 2.5% costs will double in 28 years.



NOYB March 11th 05 01:07 AM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will
always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?



NOYB wrote:
I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.

I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military,

How about money squandered on pointless slaughter, while obscene
profits
are not only raked in by favored industries... and troops go without
needed equipment... but those same favored companies commit fraud &
outright theft?


You really have a warped view of what's really going on.

You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what

entity,
it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan.


But we're not "borrowing forever". A country will have economic ups and
downs. In the "down" years, net tax receipts fall, and deficits surge.

In
the "up" years, net receipts rise, and the deficits shrink. Since a

country
like the US has an infinite lifespan, *AND A CONSTANTLY EXPANDING

ECONOMY*,
it can weather long, long periods of deficits without any adverse
affects.



You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a tax!



And what is the current inflation rate in the United States?



About 2.5%.



Which is lower than it averaged for the 80's and 90's. In 2000, there was a
surplus, yet inflation averaged 3.38%. Your argument that a high inflation
rate is the result of an increasing deficit just doesn't seem to agree with
recent historical data.


What was the unexceptable inflation rate when Nixon put in wage
and price controls? 3.5%. At 2.5% costs will double in 28 years.


If you can't afford to pay $6 for a gallon of milk 28 years from now, then
there's something wrong with your investment portfolio.



NOYB March 11th 05 01:09 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
et...

NOYB wrote:

.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?


I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.


I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military

snip

The strong military you're buying now will be staffed by none other than
your children. No matter WHAT the cause, you won't want them there to
fight it.



I'd like to see our military spending increased to the point where we can
create completely automated weaponry that can be controlled by "soldiers"
well out of harm's way. We already have pilotless drones carrying
warheads, unmanned ground vehicles, and Tomahawk missiles capable of
firing from hundreds of miles away with near-pin-point accuracy. We're
in the early development phase of battlefield robots that will be able to
do the street-to-street fighting being done in Iraq.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...armyrobot.html


Hell, we have a pilotless drone in the White House by name of Bush.

Battlefield robots doing street-to-street fighting? Heheheh. Too much
RoboCop in your TV diet.


You won't be laughing when one shows up at your door.

"Sarah Connor?" BAM!

Maybe Tuuk's a Cyborg?




Calif Bill March 11th 05 05:51 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will
always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative"

and
posting things like this?



NOYB wrote:
I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.

I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of

the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military,

How about money squandered on pointless slaughter, while obscene
profits
are not only raked in by favored industries... and troops go

without
needed equipment... but those same favored companies commit fraud

&
outright theft?


You really have a warped view of what's really going on.

You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what

entity,
it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan.

But we're not "borrowing forever". A country will have economic ups and
downs. In the "down" years, net tax receipts fall, and deficits surge.

In
the "up" years, net receipts rise, and the deficits shrink. Since a

country
like the US has an infinite lifespan, *AND A CONSTANTLY EXPANDING

ECONOMY*,
it can weather long, long periods of deficits without any adverse
affects.



You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when

the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a

tax!


And what is the current inflation rate in the United States?



About 2.5%.



Which is lower than it averaged for the 80's and 90's. In 2000, there was

a
surplus, yet inflation averaged 3.38%. Your argument that a high

inflation
rate is the result of an increasing deficit just doesn't seem to agree

with
recent historical data.


What was the unexceptable inflation rate when Nixon put in wage
and price controls? 3.5%. At 2.5% costs will double in 28 years.


If you can't afford to pay $6 for a gallon of milk 28 years from now, then
there's something wrong with your investment portfolio.




There is the problem with paying $6 / gallon as it is the young family that
is trying to raise kids and does not have a 40 years investment portfolio.
As to inflation, being only 2.5% presently, is because the interest rate is
held artificially low and the government is holding it in check. Higher
employment or higher wages will give inflation a big kick. As inflation is
more dollars chasing less product.



Jeff Rigby March 11th 05 11:23 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
t...

NOYB wrote:

.... The government can borrow ad infinitum because there will

always
be revenue coming in.


Don't you feel kinda strange, calling yourself a "conservative" and
posting things like this?


I'm a social conservative, and fiscal moderate.


I don't mind spending money, as long as I see see the fruits of the
expenditures. Money paid towards a strong military

snip

The strong military you're buying now will be staffed by none other than
your children. No matter WHAT the cause, you won't want them there to
fight it.



I'd like to see our military spending increased to the point where we

can
create completely automated weaponry that can be controlled by

"soldiers"
well out of harm's way. We already have pilotless drones carrying

warheads,
unmanned ground vehicles, and Tomahawk missiles capable of firing from
hundreds of miles away with near-pin-point accuracy. We're in the early
development phase of battlefield robots that will be able to do the
street-to-street fighting being done in Iraq.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...armyrobot.html

unnecessary offensive comment deleted

Battlefield robots doing street-to-street fighting? Heheheh. Too much
RoboCop in your TV diet.


Actually, a weapons platform advancing in front of a platoon that has on it
advanced radar and targeting that "sees" incoming rounds and directs
suppression fire without intervention all within milliseconds would be a
good tool. They have a few systems that track mortar and larger shells and
direct fire in the field now.



Dave Hall March 11th 05 11:48 AM

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:51:39 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

You really have a warped view of economics. Does not matter what
entity,
it
can not borrow forever, no matter it's lifespan.

But we're not "borrowing forever". A country will have economic ups and
downs. In the "down" years, net tax receipts fall, and deficits surge.
In
the "up" years, net receipts rise, and the deficits shrink. Since a
country
like the US has an infinite lifespan, *AND A CONSTANTLY EXPANDING
ECONOMY*,
it can weather long, long periods of deficits without any adverse
affects.



You get to the condition
on countries of Brazil, 15-50% inflation. Germany, after WWII when

the
paper was worth more than the money printed on it. Inflation is a

tax!


And what is the current inflation rate in the United States?



About 2.5%.



Which is lower than it averaged for the 80's and 90's. In 2000, there was

a
surplus, yet inflation averaged 3.38%. Your argument that a high

inflation
rate is the result of an increasing deficit just doesn't seem to agree

with
recent historical data.


What was the unexceptable inflation rate when Nixon put in wage
and price controls? 3.5%. At 2.5% costs will double in 28 years.


If you can't afford to pay $6 for a gallon of milk 28 years from now, then
there's something wrong with your investment portfolio.




There is the problem with paying $6 / gallon as it is the young family that
is trying to raise kids and does not have a 40 years investment portfolio.


Fret not. By then the minimum wage will be $15/hr and the poverty line
will be $60,000 per year. It's all relative.

Dave


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