Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less
than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots
of
vegetation!).

I'd certainly start with a Texas rig, look for structure like down
fall, rocks, etc in the shallow water, cast beyond that, twitch the
worm along slowly, like raise the rod tip about a foot, then let the
worm fall to the bottom again, reel in slack, wait ten seconds or so,
repeat.

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer
in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so
early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" -
can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be
illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

Lloyd, here's a couple of links, the first, lots of bass fishing info:
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...Y_14_0_FISHING

And this one will give you specific examples of various rigs, Texas,
Carolina (a biggy here!), drop shot, etc. I think that seeing how you
aren't an experienced bass fisher, I'd stick to soft plastics. Get some
chartreuse colored six inch lizards, Zoom makes some good ones. Rig
them the same, Texas style, just like the worm pictured he
http://www.fish-hawk.net/tips/wormrig/wormrig.php

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:


Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver?

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?



OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd

Use Live Bait. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of
tournaments. Trolling is also effective.

Now, is there really evidence that the bass are adversely impacting the
trout? Or is this really just snobbery? Are Salmon native to those
lakes? You aren't stocking the non-native german brown trout? Here in
Minnesota, the only native trout are really char.... the lake trout and
the brook trout. Browns and Rainbows are imports.

del cecchi

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:49:24 -0600, Del Cecchi
wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:


Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver?

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?



OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd

Use Live Bait. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of
tournaments. Trolling is also effective.

Now, is there really evidence that the bass are adversely impacting the
trout? Or is this really just snobbery? Are Salmon native to those
lakes? You aren't stocking the non-native german brown trout? Here in
Minnesota, the only native trout are really char.... the lake trout and
the brook trout. Browns and Rainbows are imports.

Not to be argumentative, but the only true fresh water "trout" in the
US is the golden trout.

No joke - I read about this a couple of years ago. It exists no where
else in the world and some biologists have done comparison DNA studies
against other species of trout developing the theory that this is
actually the only trout that existed in North America prior to the
introduction of other trouts by what ever means they made it here.

If that convoluted sentence makes any sense at all. :)

I'm searching around in my libarary to find the article. I can't
remember which magazine it was in.

I'll find it.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:49:24 -0600, Del Cecchi
wrote:


Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:



Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver?

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?



OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd


Use Live Bait. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of
tournaments. Trolling is also effective.

Now, is there really evidence that the bass are adversely impacting the
trout? Or is this really just snobbery? Are Salmon native to those
lakes? You aren't stocking the non-native german brown trout? Here in
Minnesota, the only native trout are really char.... the lake trout and
the brook trout. Browns and Rainbows are imports.


Not to be argumentative, but the only true fresh water "trout" in the
US is the golden trout.

No joke - I read about this a couple of years ago. It exists no where
else in the world and some biologists have done comparison DNA studies
against other species of trout developing the theory that this is
actually the only trout that existed in North America prior to the
introduction of other trouts by what ever means they made it here.

If that convoluted sentence makes any sense at all. :)

I'm searching around in my libarary to find the article. I can't
remember which magazine it was in.

I'll find it.

You do that. But Brook Trout and Lake Trout were here when the
Europeans arrived. I don't know if the aboriginal people carried them
across the land bridge and stocked lake Agassiz. But of course they are
char and not true trout, which are taxonomically different.

del cecchi

Del Cecchi wrote:
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:


Hi,

We're having a fish-in in April targeting the
(illegally-stocked)
largemouth bass in the Vancouver area.

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a
225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver?

No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't
have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are
on
TV.

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in?



OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has
illegally
dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with
trout
and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars
every year
enhancing the stocks with hatcheries.

So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass
stocks
and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while
we're
at it!

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do
you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile
wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are
restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd

Use Live Bait.

Sometimes live bait works better than artificials, and sometimes
artificials work better. Around here, when the fish are finicky, a soft
plastic Zoom lizard is THE go-to bait. Even after it has rained, and
the fish have been sitting at the creek mouths gorging on minnows for
days, they will still hit a plastic lizard, because spring lizards are
their natural enemy. The lizards love to eat the fry.

The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of
tournaments. Trolling is also effective.

Trolling for largemouth bass???? With WHAT?

del cecchi

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
snip....
since you asked, no - you don't have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass


You talkin' about his Vinyl Valarie?

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:32:49 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
snip....
since you asked, no - you don't have
to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet
stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large
mouth bass

You talkin' about his Vinyl Valarie?

It's a great lure, but the males are on the smallish side. Perhaps it
would work with a lesbian largemouth bass? :)

Later,

Tom

Lloyd, a lot is dependent on the water temp. Is the temp. rising, or
lowering? Fishing for bass is quite the chess game, therefore, the
nature of your second and third sentences isn't needed.
That being said, what are the bass in your area feeding on? If the fish
are in the shallows, then the very first thing I try anywhere, is a
chartreuse Berkeley rubber worm, Texas rigged. Look for a likely hiding
spot, like a tree downfall, or other structure, toss beyond that point,
and slowly work the worm. If there are shiners, or other such minnows
that they are feeding on, you may try a spinner bait for a few casts.
If the banks are steep, like cliffs, you can vertical jig a spoon, like
a Rattlesnake down the bank.

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver?

=================

Absolutely. The fish don't care of course, but you will never get any
publicity or sponsorship money without the flash and dash.