Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do
you
REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile
wide??
(The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are
restricted to
electric motors only)

Lloyd

Most of the lakes here have lots of coves, rivers, etc. and actually
have many miles of shoreline. Lake Lanier for instance, has almost 700
miles of shoreline. Most bass fishing is done close to shore. Bass
tournament fisherman are starting from the same place, same time, and
want to get to where they think the fish will be as soon as possible.
This quickly transposed to the local guys wanting fast boats. I have to
say, it is nice fun to go like hell when conditions are good. Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill


Ahhhh!

I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't
call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end
of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like
the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff
on the bottom to snag!

I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink
hook-up. I should give them a try.

Lloyd

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in
a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm
and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is
for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill


Ahhhh!

I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't
call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end
of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like
the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff
on the bottom to snag!

I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink
hook-up. I should give them a try.

Lloyd


For flys, use a little cork popper type.

Calif Bill wrote:
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried
in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the
worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless.
The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook.

Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is
usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker,
so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the
weight.

Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.

Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't
FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina
rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP
structure.

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Calif Bill wrote:
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried
in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the
worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless.
The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook.

Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is
usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker,
so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the
weight.

Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.

Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't
FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina
rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP
structure.


I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such. You
are wrong.

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Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such. You
are wrong.


Deep in the south may be 20'. They are old lakes and reservoirs. They have
lots of silt. The big weight stirs up the bottom and the worm gets to float
above the silt. You better do your research better. Otherwise a Texas
rigged with a bigger weight would do the job. BC and the west have deep
lakes. We normally fish 20' as shallow in most of the lakes. Is why the
drop shot came out of here.

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less
than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots
of
vegetation!).

I'd certainly start with a Texas rig, look for structure like down
fall, rocks, etc in the shallow water, cast beyond that, twitch the
worm along slowly, like raise the rod tip about a foot, then let the
worm fall to the bottom again, reel in slack, wait ten seconds or so,
repeat.

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer
in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so
early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" -
can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be
illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

Lloyd, here's a couple of links, the first, lots of bass fishing info:
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...Y_14_0_FISHING

And this one will give you specific examples of various rigs, Texas,
Carolina (a biggy here!), drop shot, etc. I think that seeing how you
aren't an experienced bass fisher, I'd stick to soft plastics. Get some
chartreuse colored six inch lizards, Zoom makes some good ones. Rig
them the same, Texas style, just like the worm pictured he
http://www.fish-hawk.net/tips/wormrig/wormrig.php