On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:06:54 -0500, DSK wrote:

For example, 'best return donated from corporation into
certain campaign funds' which is exactly what Vice President Cheney was
talking about when this whole "Social Security reform plan" got started.


Dave Hall wrote:
Says you. You're talking utter paranoid rubbish.


Not at all.
In one of his early statements on the subject, Vice President Cheney
said publicly that they were "shopping the idea around" various Wall St
firms to see who would "be the most responsive." His exact words.

But of course you've spun those words to imply something nefarious. It
could be that he meant that he was eliciting the opinions of those who
are in the business of investing as to how to best go about creating a
private account system.


He
also said that he was not specifically talking about a quid pro quo but
that the arranement would be mutually beneficial to the chosen Wall St
firms and to the Republican Party. Since then, they've backed way off on
this line.

I would be quite interested to see a link to where he made such a
claim.


Funny thing, you always accuse me of either quoting "Democratic Party
propaganda" which is something I've never seen or heard

Yet you can recite almost word for word. Birds of a feather?


, or inventing
fiction, but somehow I have the documentation & references to back up
what I say as fact.

Then how come you never provide proof when asked?


You never do. I wonder why that is?

You claim to base your subjective opinion on some elusive "fact". I
don't make the same claim. I argue based on principle and common
sense. When there is something factual (Like Galveston Texas opting
out of SS and gaining a considerable advantage by it) to support my
argument, I will post it. But in the case of SS reform, there really
aren't many facts yet as the program is hardly past the proposal
stage.

So far you have failed to prove that the Bush administration is doing
anything other than what they are openly claiming. Claims of "lining
the pockets of Wall Street" is just paranoia run amuck and
regurgitated by liberals, democrats, and Bush bashers alike.
Especially considering that the plan has never been finalized to the
point that such observations could definitively be made.


Dave