Go here to hear a Regan quote about hippies - and also lots of other
really, really, bizare things he said:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/reagan%20quotes.htm

Gary wrote:

Go here to hear a Regan quote about hippies - and also lots of other
really, really, bizare things he said:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/reagan%20quotes.htm



Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president

"Jim," wrote:

Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president


I actually meant to send that somewhere else. But since it's here...

He's the one that made the quotes. If he didn't want to be remembered
in this way he shouldn't have made himself a public figure and/or shouldn't
have said these things. ~ My guess is that he'd be happy to be remembered
this way...he said these things and probably meant most of them.

By the way - I liked Reagan. I didn't / don't agree with some of what he
stood for, but I did agree with some things and, mostly, I did think that on
the whose he was an honorable man trying to do the right things.

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Gary

"Gary" wrote in message
...
"Jim," wrote:

Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president


I actually meant to send that somewhere else. But since it's here...

He's the one that made the quotes. If he didn't want to be remembered
in this way he shouldn't have made himself a public figure and/or
shouldn't
have said these things. ~ My guess is that he'd be happy to be remembered
this way...he said these things and probably meant most of them.

By the way - I liked Reagan. I didn't / don't agree with some of what he
stood for, but I did agree with some things and, mostly, I did think that
on
the whose he was an honorable man trying to do the right things.

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Or just maybe he was on the right track

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Gary

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:36:47 -0500, P.Fritz wrote:

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan,
1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Or just maybe he was on the right track

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm

LOL, perhaps you can show us a study where trees are responsible for
carbon monoxide, benzene, formaldehyde, etc. etc.

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...


http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Interesting links. I quickly browsed all three of these. Tell me if you see
it differently
but what I get from these is: Some trees do produce pollution but most trees
also
absorb CO2 and "clean" the air. Some of it depends on what you consider
"pollution" and what you consider "cleaning". Overall the statement that
"Trees
cause more pollution than automobiles do." is probably incorrect at worst
and
misleading at best.

Still, it just goes to show that there are almost never simple answers. It
takes research
and critical thought to properly asses most issues. It is my belief that
there are plenty
or people on all "sides" that should research and think a lot more before
speaking or
else just shut up.

Thanks for the links.

Gary

"Gary" wrote in message
...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...


http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Interesting links. I quickly browsed all three of these. Tell me if you
see it differently
but what I get from these is: Some trees do produce pollution but most
trees also
absorb CO2 and "clean" the air.

I don't consider CO2 a pollutant. Those that do should just off themselves
and stop polluting the air by exhaling.


Some of it depends on what you consider
"pollution" and what you consider "cleaning". Overall the statement that
"Trees
cause more pollution than automobiles do." is probably incorrect at worst
and
misleading at best.

In certain cases, for certain substances, trees probably do produce more.


Still, it just goes to show that there are almost never simple answers. It
takes research
and critical thought to properly asses most issues. It is my belief that
there are plenty
or people on all "sides" that should research and think a lot more before
speaking or
else just shut up.

You mean like algore? (as in the shutting up part)


Thanks for the links.

Gary

P.Fritz wrote:

Or just maybe he was on the right track

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
Yes, this study shows that the VOC's are a result of tree farms. Man
has altered the mix of trees in the landscape.


http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp

Again, altering the the mix of trees, harvesting pines and maples, and
letting oaks flourish.

http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm

This gem deals with only the aspect of trees emitting the gases that
react with tailpipe emissions (smog). If there was no smog, this would
be a moot point. All of the above that you've found, is a fate dealt by
the hand of man, not trees.




Gary

"Gary" wrote in message
...
"Jim," wrote:

Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president


I actually meant to send that somewhere else. But since it's here...

He's the one that made the quotes. If he didn't want to be remembered
in this way he shouldn't have made himself a public figure and/or
shouldn't
have said these things. ~ My guess is that he'd be happy to be remembered
this way...he said these things and probably meant most of them.

By the way - I liked Reagan. I didn't / don't agree with some of what he
stood for, but I did agree with some things and, mostly, I did think that
on
the whose he was an honorable man trying to do the right things.

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Gary

Pine trees outgas more hydrocarbons than cars do although they are simple
chains and don't contain lead, sulfur or mercury. And when they burn
(they are genetically designed to thrive on forest fires (the small normal
ones that nature provides but we have stopped. The buildup of undergrowth
due to our stopping the forest fires has caused conditions that mean much
higher temps and the trees die)) they also put out massive amounts of carbon
dioxide and complex hydrocarbons when they burn.

I'll say the same thing again, until the point sinks in...

Jeff Rigby wrote:
Pine trees outgas more hydrocarbons than cars do although they are simple
chains and don't contain lead, sulfur or mercury.

Yep.

That's why hundreds of years ago, before we had automobiles & smokestack
factories & fossil fueled power plants that clean up the atmosphere,
planet Earth was so polluted from all the trees that it could barely
support life.

DSK