On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:50:31 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:59:25 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

Now, get back on track. You made a post. I asked some questions.


HOMELAND SECURITY -- A TERRORIST'S RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: According to a
congressional investigation by the nonpartisan Government Accountability
Office (GAO), "Dozens of terrorist suspects on federal watch lists were
allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year
(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...1_china08.html) ." Oops!
Turns out the Bush administration, three years after 9/11, simply hasn't
gotten around to making it illegal for suspected terrorists to buy guns.
In fact, until February 2004, civil liberties stalwart John Ashcroft --
who has advocated surveillance and wiretapping on U.S. citizens without
court approval -- actively resisted efforts to increase oversight for
terrorists seeking guns because of "Second Amendment concerns." The GAO
investigation indicated people "with clear links to terrorist groups
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/na...nt%26position=)
had taken advantage of this gap on a regular basis.... At least 44
times between February and June of 2004, people regarded by the FBI as
known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to buy
or carry guns." In all but nine cases, permission was granted.


What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from 'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

You guys are the first to cry at a 'supposed' loss of liberty!

The questions are right there. Don't obfuscate. You get the message!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:50:31 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:59:25 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

Now, get back on track. You made a post. I asked some questions.



HOMELAND SECURITY -- A TERRORIST'S RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: According to a
congressional investigation by the nonpartisan Government Accountability
Office (GAO), "Dozens of terrorist suspects on federal watch lists were
allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year
(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...1_china08.html) ." Oops!
Turns out the Bush administration, three years after 9/11, simply hasn't
gotten around to making it illegal for suspected terrorists to buy guns.
In fact, until February 2004, civil liberties stalwart John Ashcroft --
who has advocated surveillance and wiretapping on U.S. citizens without
court approval -- actively resisted efforts to increase oversight for
terrorists seeking guns because of "Second Amendment concerns." The GAO
investigation indicated people "with clear links to terrorist groups
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/na...nt%26position=)
had taken advantage of this gap on a regular basis.... At least 44
times between February and June of 2004, people regarded by the FBI as
known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to buy
or carry guns." In all but nine cases, permission was granted.


What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from 'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

You guys are the first to cry at a 'supposed' loss of liberty!


The questions are right there. Don't obfuscate. You get the message!


John H

"All delusions are the result of binary thinking."

What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from
'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

All answered, except the liberty part -- if they are not charged with a
crime within a reasonable time (say 6 months), or are given POW status,
I say Yes to liberty also

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:43:39 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:50:31 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:59:25 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

Now, get back on track. You made a post. I asked some questions.



HOMELAND SECURITY -- A TERRORIST'S RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: According to a
congressional investigation by the nonpartisan Government Accountability
Office (GAO), "Dozens of terrorist suspects on federal watch lists were
allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year
(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...1_china08.html) ." Oops!
Turns out the Bush administration, three years after 9/11, simply hasn't
gotten around to making it illegal for suspected terrorists to buy guns.
In fact, until February 2004, civil liberties stalwart John Ashcroft --
who has advocated surveillance and wiretapping on U.S. citizens without
court approval -- actively resisted efforts to increase oversight for
terrorists seeking guns because of "Second Amendment concerns." The GAO
investigation indicated people "with clear links to terrorist groups
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/na...nt%26position=)
had taken advantage of this gap on a regular basis.... At least 44
times between February and June of 2004, people regarded by the FBI as
known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to buy
or carry guns." In all but nine cases, permission was granted.


What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from 'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

You guys are the first to cry at a 'supposed' loss of liberty!


The questions are right there. Don't obfuscate. You get the message!


John H

"All delusions are the result of binary thinking."

What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from
'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

All answered, except the liberty part -- if they are not charged with a
crime within a reasonable time (say 6 months), or are given POW status,
I say Yes to liberty also

If being a 'suspect' should not deprive one of rights, why the anti-Homeland
Security post? Was the reason just to say something negative?

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You seem
desirous of changing it.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:43:39 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:50:31 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



John H wrote:



On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:59:25 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

Now, get back on track. You made a post. I asked some questions.




HOMELAND SECURITY -- A TERRORIST'S RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: According to a
congressional investigation by the nonpartisan Government Accountability
Office (GAO), "Dozens of terrorist suspects on federal watch lists were
allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year
(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...1_china08.html) ." Oops!
Turns out the Bush administration, three years after 9/11, simply hasn't
gotten around to making it illegal for suspected terrorists to buy guns.
In fact, until February 2004, civil liberties stalwart John Ashcroft --
who has advocated surveillance and wiretapping on U.S. citizens without
court approval -- actively resisted efforts to increase oversight for
terrorists seeking guns because of "Second Amendment concerns." The GAO
investigation indicated people "with clear links to terrorist groups
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/na...nt%26position=)
had taken advantage of this gap on a regular basis.... At least 44
times between February and June of 2004, people regarded by the FBI as
known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to buy
or carry guns." In all but nine cases, permission was granted.


What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from 'suspects'. How
about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

You guys are the first to cry at a 'supposed' loss of liberty!


The questions are right there. Don't obfuscate. You get the message!


John H

"All delusions are the result of binary thinking."

What other civil liberties would you like to see taken away from
'suspects'. How

about the liberty to leave Guantanamo? How about the liberty to have an
attorney? How about liberty, period?

All answered, except the liberty part -- if they are not charged with a
crime within a reasonable time (say 6 months), or are given POW status,
I say Yes to liberty also


If being a 'suspect' should not deprive one of rights, why the anti-Homeland
Security post? Was the reason just to say something negative?

Yet one more opportunity to point out an administration Foul up

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You seem
desirous of changing it.

Seems a more apt description, so I opted to use it

John H

"All delusions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:09:01 GMT, "Jim," wrote:



Yet one more opportunity to point out an administration Foul up

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You seem
desirous of changing it.

Seems a more apt description, so I opted to use it

John H

"All delusions are the result of binary thinking."

Truth's a bitch, isn't it?

Those cute little tricks didn't quite seem your style. Others, yes, but not
yours. Oh well, that's why I'm not a shrink.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:25 -0500, John H wrote:

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You
seem desirous of changing it.

Not that it's important, but if you use the standard signature delimiter
of dash dash space return, most newsreaders will cut your signature when
quoting. Other posters generally won't bother playing with it.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter



John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:03:15 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:25 -0500, John H wrote:

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You
seem desirous of changing it.

Not that it's important, but if you use the standard signature delimiter
of dash dash space return, most newsreaders will cut your signature when
quoting. Other posters generally won't bother playing with it.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter



Let's see if that works. I've never seen anyone that messes with a signature,
but I guess I've not seen everyone!



--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:26:09 -0500, John H wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:03:15 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:25 -0500, John H wrote:

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You
seem desirous of changing it.

Not that it's important, but if you use the standard signature delimiter
of dash dash space return, most newsreaders will cut your signature
when quoting. Other posters generally won't bother playing with it.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter



Let's see if that works. I've never seen anyone that messes with a
signature, but I guess I've not seen everyone!

Yup.

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:28:00 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:26:09 -0500, John H wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:03:15 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:25 -0500, John H wrote:

Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You
seem desirous of changing it.

Not that it's important, but if you use the standard signature delimiter
of dash dash space return, most newsreaders will cut your signature
when quoting. Other posters generally won't bother playing with it.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter



Let's see if that works. I've never seen anyone that messes with a
signature, but I guess I've not seen everyone!

Yup.

Thanks for the tip!


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:03:15 -0500, thunder wrote:


On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:05:25 -0500, John H wrote:


Also, is there something about my signature line that offends you? You
seem desirous of changing it.

Not that it's important, but if you use the standard signature delimiter
of dash dash space return, most newsreaders will cut your signature when
quoting. Other posters generally won't bother playing with it.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter




Let's see if that works. I've never seen anyone that messes with a signature,
but I guess I've not seen everyone!


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Try again John. I still think delusions is the more appropriate term.