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NOYB March 8th 05 06:03 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
And up until last week, Syria has been very friendly and cooperative
towards the Bush Administration and vice-versa.



NOYB wrote:
Last week? Horsepoop.


Nope, that's the truth. Bush & Cheney can be very cozy with terrorist
supporting states such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, when it suits their
own purposes.


So what. Yes, we used them like a cheap whore...because we needed their
cooperation in order to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.


And unfortunately, that's the truth.

... You obviously don't read much.


Nope, actually I read a fair amount... of course, I don't put much stock
in carefully selected & edited & spun versions of anybody's political
tub-thumping


Hehehe. So my citing the 2003 "Syria Accountability Act" is editing and
spinning, eh? You're becoming a lost cause.

If you read the bill, it's quite clear that the idea of holding Syria's feet
to the fire is nothing new.

BTW--Why did you snip the following?

" To halt Syrian support for terrorism, end its occupation of Lebanon, stop
its development of weapons of mass destruction, cease its illegal
importation of Iraqi oil, and hold Syria accountable for its role in the
Middle East, and for other purposes. "

This bill was authored in May 2003, and signed by Bush in December of that
same year.

It's the same type of bill that led us down the path towards war with Iraq.
Ironically, both bills (the Iraq and Syrian bills) were co-authored by
Republicans *and* Democrats...and the Iraqi accountability bill was signed
by a Democratic president.



DSK March 8th 05 06:09 PM

Nope, that's the truth. Bush & Cheney can be very cozy with terrorist
supporting states such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, when it suits their
own purposes.



NOYB wrote:
So what. Yes, we used them like a cheap whore...because we needed their
cooperation in order to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.


So, we agree that Bush & Cheney are opportunistic and amoral?


This bill was authored in May 2003, and signed by Bush in December of that
same year.

It's the same type of bill that led us down the path towards war with Iraq.
Ironically, both bills (the Iraq and Syrian bills) were co-authored by
Republicans *and* Democrats...and the Iraqi accountability bill was signed
by a Democratic president.


And yet, Bush didn't do a darn thing about it for a couple of years...
let's see now, Iraq had *nothing* to do with Sept 11th, and *no*
connection with Al Queda or anti-American terrorism, and yet with a bill
ready & waiting to justify disrupting Syria's ties to those terrorist
organizations, Bush & Cheney chose to waste American lives and
bazillions of dollars invading Iraq.

DSK


NOYB March 8th 05 06:11 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Nope, that's the truth. Bush & Cheney can be very cozy with terrorist
supporting states such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, when it suits their
own purposes.



NOYB wrote:
So what. Yes, we used them like a cheap whore...because we needed their
cooperation in order to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.


So, we agree that Bush & Cheney are opportunistic


Yes.

and amoral?


No.



This bill was authored in May 2003, and signed by Bush in December of
that same year.

It's the same type of bill that led us down the path towards war with
Iraq. Ironically, both bills (the Iraq and Syrian bills) were co-authored
by Republicans *and* Democrats...and the Iraqi accountability bill was
signed by a Democratic president.


You forgot this part again:

" To halt Syrian support for terrorism, end its occupation of Lebanon, stop
its development of weapons of mass destruction, cease its illegal
importation of Iraqi oil, and hold Syria accountable for its role in the
Middle East, and for other purposes. "

(Syria Accountability Act, May 2003)



Don White March 8th 05 06:12 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


Can you think of a more effective way to surgically remove from the face

of
the Earth 100,000 anti-US terrorists?


Outlaw the Republican Party???



NOYB March 8th 05 06:14 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


Can you think of a more effective way to surgically remove from the face

of
the Earth 100,000 anti-US terrorists?


Outlaw the Republican Party???


And to think...
I just saw a very nice patient from Canada yesterday, and was beginning to
warm up to your country again. Now you've gone and blown it, Don. You're a
terrible ambassador. Martin ought to take away your internet rights.




DSK March 8th 05 06:31 PM

So, we agree that Bush & Cheney are opportunistic


NOYB wrote:
Yes.


and amoral?



No.


What moral code encourages backstabbing & & cheating, not to mention
buddying up to people who are trying to kill your fellow citizens? Maybe
it's OK as long as you later backstab them?


You forgot this part again:

" To halt Syrian support for terrorism, end its occupation of Lebanon, stop
its development of weapons of mass destruction, cease its illegal
importation of Iraqi oil, and hold Syria accountable for its role in the
Middle East, and for other purposes. "

(Syria Accountability Act, May 2003)


I didn't forget it at all, I pointed out that the same situation has
existed in Syria since the 1980s. Why did Bush invade Iraq when Syria
has needed attention for such a long time?

By your own assertions, you've proved that Bush has not been fighting
terror effectively... and that he's buddying up to terrorist sponsoring
nations.

But hey, if you like socialism as long *you* benefit, & you like big
deficits, and you like backstabbing allies, then maybe it makes sense
from your point of view.

DSK


Don White March 8th 05 06:45 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

And to think...
I just saw a very nice patient from Canada yesterday, and was beginning to
warm up to your country again. Now you've gone and blown it, Don. You're

a
terrible ambassador. Martin ought to take away your internet rights.


As I've said before....don't judge all Canadians by me! Martin is so wishy
washy now..with his minority gov't, I doubt he'd
say **** if his mouth was full. Took him months to tell George W. where he
could put his missles.



[email protected] March 8th 05 07:10 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:

That would have been a good time to bomb downtown Beirut. Once

again,
ill-conceived diplomacy will cost American lives down the road.


Boy, that's broad minded........


Can you think of a more effective way to surgically remove from the

face of
the Earth 100,000 anti-US terrorists?


Where IS binLaden?


[email protected] March 8th 05 07:11 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:

That would have been a good time to bomb downtown Beirut. Once

again,
ill-conceived diplomacy will cost American lives down the road.


Boy, that's broad minded........


Can you think of a more effective way to surgically remove from the

face of
the Earth 100,000 anti-US terrorists?


Are you saying that every person in the area was a terrorist? How do
you know this?


NOYB March 8th 05 07:31 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
So, we agree that Bush & Cheney are opportunistic



NOYB wrote:
Yes.


and amoral?



No.


What moral code encourages backstabbing & & cheating, not to mention
buddying up to people who are trying to kill your fellow citizens? Maybe
it's OK as long as you later backstab them?


The ends *do* justify the means sometimes.




You forgot this part again:

" To halt Syrian support for terrorism, end its occupation of Lebanon,
stop
its development of weapons of mass destruction, cease its illegal
importation of Iraqi oil, and hold Syria accountable for its role in the
Middle East, and for other purposes. "

(Syria Accountability Act, May 2003)


I didn't forget it at all, I pointed out that the same situation has
existed in Syria since the 1980s. Why did Bush invade Iraq when Syria has
needed attention for such a long time?


I'll give you the same answer that I gave you when you asked the same thing
about Iran: we needed a staging area.


By your own assertions, you've proved that Bush has not been fighting
terror effectively... and that he's buddying up to terrorist sponsoring
nations.


He's not "buddying up". He's using them for whatever little help we can get
from them until the time is right to move on to the next phase in the war on
terror. It's no different from what any other president has ever done
(ie--Clinton using $4billion US dollars to buy false assurances from the
North Koreans). The difference, however, is that Bush is getting results
from the concessions.




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