P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:35:47 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On 7 Mar 2005 09:09:44 -0800, wrote:

Don White wrote:

Who appointed JimH the 'Lord & Savior' of our newsgroup? No one
asked
for
my vote.

***************

Lighten up on ol' JimH. If this is the excuse he needs to modify
his
own behavior, who cares?

It is amazing how the tone of the group can change when a handful
of
people decide to modify behavior for better or for worse.

Jim's motivation may seem odd, but his efforts for 2-3 days now
are
commendable. They say it takes 21 days to kick a habit, so if the
more
civil tone prevails for another 16-18 there will be some chance
of
permanent change.

So I can't call any names for 21 days before the urge is gone?
Sounds
like
a
rough three weeks!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I wonder why Chuck saw my motivation as odd. It should be
perfectly
clear....to have a better NG.

Now if we could only get a buy in from Don, Chuck, bb, Krause, jps,
Doug
Kanter and dsk....I wonder if that is possible?

BTW: I guess I will be totally *cured* on March 24th. Perhaps I
should
start using the patch to help me out until then. ;-)


The greatest way to stop the name-calling urge is to killfile those
who
deserve
the names!

The only posts I see from the loony liebrals is the ones you and a
few
others respond to :-)


See? I knew Fritz wouldn't be able to stop the childish name calling.
Kudos to the rest of you, though. Hell, even JimH and I have had a
meaningful conversation. I DO hope Fritz sees the light, and starts
posting meaningful diatribes, but it doesn't look good so far.

Jim H accused (in response):


Do you see Don, Chuck, bb, Krause (well maybe grin), jps, Doug
Kanter and DSK calling names or launching threads denigrating some
party or another so all like-minded folks can get their licks in?



Yes.

*************************

OK. Time to put up or shut up. With the possible exception acknowledged
in my original statement, please direct our attention to:

"Don, Gould, bb, jps, Doug Kanter and DSK calling names or launching
threads denigrating some party or another so all like-minded folks can
get thier licks in".......

since you took the "pledge" that few righties endorsed, no lefties
sucked into, and that you now seem poised to break at any moment.

You won't mind if I *don't* hold my breath?

Thanks for the good laugh this morning Chuck.

****************

Are you aware that laughter is a common reaction when faced with an
embarrassing truth?

Name calling and personal attacks are down significantly, (as you
acknowledge at the beginning of this thread), since you aplogogized to
the NG and swore to modify your own behavior.

But, two days later you want to smear the usual group of people you
dislike with an accusation that all the moderates and liberals in the
group are calling names and launching threads denigrating some party or
another.....
when it has been almost entirely quiet. People are more often
disagreeing on issues or philosophies, not calling one another names
based on differences of opinion.

I haven't seen a single hillbilly wedding photo, or even one pig pile,
for several days from anybody.

Question: What dynamic of the NG changed to bring this about?

wrote in message
oups.com...
snip...
Name calling and personal attacks are down significantly, (as you
acknowledge at the beginning of this thread), since you aplogogized to
the NG and swore to modify your own behavior.
snip...
Question: What dynamic of the NG changed to bring this about?



Hallelujah...we've seen the light!

On 8 Mar 2005 05:09:02 -0800, wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:35:47 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On 7 Mar 2005 09:09:44 -0800, wrote:

Don White wrote:

Who appointed JimH the 'Lord & Savior' of our newsgroup? No one
asked
for
my vote.

***************

Lighten up on ol' JimH. If this is the excuse he needs to modify
his
own behavior, who cares?

It is amazing how the tone of the group can change when a handful
of
people decide to modify behavior for better or for worse.

Jim's motivation may seem odd, but his efforts for 2-3 days now
are
commendable. They say it takes 21 days to kick a habit, so if the
more
civil tone prevails for another 16-18 there will be some chance
of
permanent change.

So I can't call any names for 21 days before the urge is gone?
Sounds
like
a
rough three weeks!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I wonder why Chuck saw my motivation as odd. It should be
perfectly
clear....to have a better NG.

Now if we could only get a buy in from Don, Chuck, bb, Krause, jps,
Doug
Kanter and dsk....I wonder if that is possible?

BTW: I guess I will be totally *cured* on March 24th. Perhaps I
should
start using the patch to help me out until then. ;-)


The greatest way to stop the name-calling urge is to killfile those
who
deserve
the names!

The only posts I see from the loony liebrals is the ones you and a
few
others respond to :-)


See? I knew Fritz wouldn't be able to stop the childish name calling.
Kudos to the rest of you, though. Hell, even JimH and I have had a
meaningful conversation. I DO hope Fritz sees the light, and starts
posting meaningful diatribes, but it doesn't look good so far.

Why don't you just killfile him? Do you not recognize your participation?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 8 Mar 2005 07:28:50 -0800, wrote:

Thanks for the good laugh this morning Chuck.

****************

Are you aware that laughter is a common reaction when faced with an
embarrassing truth?

Name calling and personal attacks are down significantly, (as you
acknowledge at the beginning of this thread), since you aplogogized to
the NG and swore to modify your own behavior.

But, two days later you want to smear the usual group of people you
dislike with an accusation that all the moderates and liberals in the
group are calling names and launching threads denigrating some party or
another.....
when it has been almost entirely quiet. People are more often
disagreeing on issues or philosophies, not calling one another names
based on differences of opinion.

I haven't seen a single hillbilly wedding photo, or even one pig pile,
for several days from anybody.

Question: What dynamic of the NG changed to bring this about?

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

"As for my influence, of course you reject intelligent & factual input,
that's why you're a member of the Krause-obessed fascist whacko clique."

That's from Doug Kanter, one of the folks you mentioned in the post you snipped.

Or,

"Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH."


from the same.



John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 8 Mar 2005 05:09:02 -0800, wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:35:47 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On 7 Mar 2005 09:09:44 -0800, wrote:

Don White wrote:

Who appointed JimH the 'Lord & Savior' of our newsgroup? No one
asked
for
my vote.

***************

Lighten up on ol' JimH. If this is the excuse he needs to modify
his
own behavior, who cares?

It is amazing how the tone of the group can change when a handful
of
people decide to modify behavior for better or for worse.

Jim's motivation may seem odd, but his efforts for 2-3 days now
are
commendable. They say it takes 21 days to kick a habit, so if the
more
civil tone prevails for another 16-18 there will be some chance
of
permanent change.

So I can't call any names for 21 days before the urge is gone?
Sounds
like
a
rough three weeks!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I wonder why Chuck saw my motivation as odd. It should be
perfectly
clear....to have a better NG.

Now if we could only get a buy in from Don, Chuck, bb, Krause, jps,
Doug
Kanter and dsk....I wonder if that is possible?

BTW: I guess I will be totally *cured* on March 24th. Perhaps I
should
start using the patch to help me out until then. ;-)


The greatest way to stop the name-calling urge is to killfile those
who
deserve
the names!

The only posts I see from the loony liebrals is the ones you and a
few
others respond to :-)


See? I knew Fritz wouldn't be able to stop the childish name calling.
Kudos to the rest of you, though. Hell, even JimH and I have had a
meaningful conversation. I DO hope Fritz sees the light, and starts
posting meaningful diatribes, but it doesn't look good so far.

Why don't you just killfile him? Do you not recognize your participation?

How could he, he's never recognized he has his head up his ass.



John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

************
As I said, that type of behavior is "down significantly".

Do you disagree?

On 8 Mar 2005 14:40:31 -0800, wrote:

John H wrote:

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

************
As I said, that type of behavior is "down significantly".

Do you disagree?

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

"As for my influence, of course you reject intelligent & factual input,
that's why you're a member of the Krause-obessed fascist whacko clique."

That's from Doug Kanter, one of the folks you mentioned in the post you snipped.

Or,

"Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH."


from the same.

This was from one on your 'good guy' list. Is the question unanswerable?

The answer to yours is yes. But, the slope of the line tangent to the
name-calling per day frequency curve is definitely positive.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:30:27 -0500, John H
wrote:

On 8 Mar 2005 14:40:31 -0800, wrote:

John H wrote:

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

************
As I said, that type of behavior is "down significantly".

Do you disagree?

Chuck, would you call this name-calling?

"As for my influence, of course you reject intelligent & factual input,
that's why you're a member of the Krause-obessed fascist whacko clique."

That's from Doug Kanter, one of the folks you mentioned in the post you snipped.

Or,

"Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH."


from the same.

This was from one on your 'good guy' list. Is the question unanswerable?

The answer to yours is yes. But, the slope of the line tangent to the
name-calling per day frequency curve is definitely positive.


You have to understand the double standard. When the "right"
criticizes someone, it's "hate filled rhetoric", but when the "left"
criticizes someone, it's "an expression of their first amendment
right to an alternative viewpoint."


Dave