I don't believe your quote. Please show me. I refer to, "That claim is
a lie.
All 17 volumes are lies."

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You'll have to find that one yourself. "All Lies" is exactly what Bush
said when asked about the 17 volumes of material.

Unfortunately, when I entered Lies Weapons Iraq Report Bush into my
search engine, I got almost 21,000 hits. Virtually all detailed lies
told *by* Bush, rather than a comment by Bush that the reports from
Iraq were lies. I don't have time to sort through there for you, but if
you care to do so you will find the quote buried in there, someplace.

On 5 Mar 2005 08:03:43 -0800, wrote:

I don't believe your quote. Please show me. I refer to, "That claim is
a lie.
All 17 volumes are lies."

*****************

You'll have to find that one yourself. "All Lies" is exactly what Bush
said when asked about the 17 volumes of material.

Unfortunately, when I entered Lies Weapons Iraq Report Bush into my
search engine, I got almost 21,000 hits. Virtually all detailed lies
told *by* Bush, rather than a comment by Bush that the reports from
Iraq were lies. I don't have time to sort through there for you, but if
you care to do so you will find the quote buried in there, someplace.

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****.

The number of hits you got was quite small. When I put in 'gould lies' I get the
following:

Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies.

Now, what inferences should be made on numbers of hits?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JohnH wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****

****************

But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a
completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you
I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported.

Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or
make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the
subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult

On 5 Mar 2005 15:58:40 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****

****************

But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a
completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you
I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported.

Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or
make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the
subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult

And why, pray tell, did you find it necessary to post a number of hits. Did that
address the discussion? No. You wanted to make a point. I showed the value of
your point. If it's any consolation, 'herring' and 'lies' gets over 200K hits
also.

You couldn't *find* the facts, remember? I've at least found documents bearing
on the issue.

If you took my post as a personal insult, I apologize. It was most definitely
not to imply anything about your integrity.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 5 Mar 2005 15:58:40 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****

****************

But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a
completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you
I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported.

Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or
make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the
subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult

And why, pray tell, did you find it necessary to post a number of hits.
Did that
address the discussion? No. You wanted to make a point. I showed the value
of
your point. If it's any consolation, 'herring' and 'lies' gets over 200K
hits
also.

You couldn't *find* the facts, remember? I've at least found documents
bearing
on the issue.

If you took my post as a personal insult, I apologize. It was most
definitely
not to imply anything about your integrity.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I read nothing for you to have to apologize for John. Chuck used his
standard "flame war and personal insults" accusation and then proceeded to
insult you.

On 5 Mar 2005 15:58:40 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****

****************

But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a
completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you
I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported.

Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or
make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the
subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult

PS. Perhaps I should have been more specific. I didn't mean that the number of
hits on Google was bull****. I was referring to: "You'll have to find that one
yourself. "All Lies" is exactly what Bush said when asked about the 17 volumes
of material."


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 5 Mar 2005 15:58:40 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:

I would respectfully suggest that is bull****

****************

But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a
completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you
I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported.

Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or
make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the
subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult

Chuck, here's a site that has just about every negative thing that could be said
about Bush and his administration and the Iraq war. You'll be able to find all
kinds of things to cut and paste about administration dishonesty, failures,
miscalculations, ineptness, and general stupidity. I'm surprised Jimcomma hasn't
found this and totally deluged the group with cut'n'pastes from this site. I
could find *nothing* about Saddam's 17 volumes.

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html

Good luck.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Speaking of lies, John H set up an interesting experiment when he
claimed:

The number of hits you got was quite small. When I put in 'gould lies'
I get the
following:


Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies


*****************


Funny, I got 3,302 pages with 10 entires per page, or 33,020.

Long way fron 254,000.

So what did I do wrong, John, or is your claim of 254,000 hits as
flimsy as your logic?

On 5 Mar 2005 16:19:15 -0800, wrote:

Speaking of lies, John H set up an interesting experiment when he
claimed:

The number of hits you got was quite small. When I put in 'gould lies'
I get the
following:


Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies


*****************


Funny, I got 3,302 pages with 10 entires per page, or 33,020.

Long way fron 254,000.

So what did I do wrong, John, or is your claim of 254,000 hits as
flimsy as your logic?

Perhaps we used a different search engine? I used 'Google' and copied and pasted
the line you see in my message.

Here, I'll try to send a little more of the page.
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Chuck, I've never lied to you or anyone else on this newsgroup, and have no
intention of starting.

If lying bothers you, you really should say something to those who seem to revel
in it.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

2000 or so Gould Lies must have been investigated and proven true. :-)

Using the same search engine, I got:

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 252,000 for gould lies. (0.35 seconds)

God, Gould and NOMA - God=92s Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ...
God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is
it. The Testament
of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ...
www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html - 70k - Cached - Similar pages


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..=2E. Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the
book was a critical
bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The
..=2E.
www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews
..=2E. really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest
book really
lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ...
www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997
..=2E. by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and
begins by acknowledging
that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard
..=2E.
www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html - 34k - Cached -
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from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ...
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lies, and ...
www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

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1868723410. Language:
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