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NOYB March 4th 05 06:37 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
When compared to the
economies of other countries, the US is doing quite well.


When compared to historical US data, the US is doing quite well.



P.Fritz March 4th 05 06:42 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our

economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France

broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.

Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US

economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.


shakes head in disbelief


He is the "king"






John H March 4th 05 07:28 PM

On 4 Mar 2005 09:49:19 -0800, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 4 Mar 2005 06:54:05 -0800,
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 4 Mar 2005 05:07:48 -0800,
wrote:


John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with

our
economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week

France
broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even

worse.
Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US
economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's

like
comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to
compare
Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically
gigantic!

I won't comment on that first sentence of yours.

You can "comment" on anything you like. But before you do, may I
suggest that you first think about the context it was written in.

The
way the German government's economic policies and practices aren't
relevant to our situation.

In your scenario, Germany would look gigantic, and the US would

look
*triply*
gigantic.

Not if we were comparing Germany and Afghanistan. Again, U.S.

economy
wouldn't be in the equation.


Well, I'm not sure *how* Afghanistan got into the equation. The

original post
was in response to some of the left wing comments regarding the poor

job Bush
has/is doing with regard to the economy of the US. When compared to

the
economies of other countries, the US is doing quite well.


John H

Never mind, John. If you don't get it now, you probably never will. The
end.


I suppose 'it' was too subtle for me. But, I am getting pretty old and ragged.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Calif Bill March 4th 05 07:57 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our

economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France

broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.

Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US

economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like
comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare
Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically
gigantic!


Go take Economics 101. And then you will realize that the economy is
global. Failing enconomies in Europe affect us. Greatly. And Europe,
especially Germany and Italy are tanking big time. Part of the oil price
increase (and a major part) is China's booming economy. They are buying
copius amounts of oil to fuel the manufacturing base. And since they
learned from Japan, to artificially hold the low value of their currency,
they get to have even greater benefits in their economy. Japan was
eventually required to float the value of their currency, and it is coming
very soon for China.



Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. March 4th 05 08:31 PM

Did he really say "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on
us."?


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our

economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France

broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.

Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US

economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.


shakes head in disbelief





Franko March 5th 05 05:31 AM

"What happens elsewhere in the world..." determines/is determined (or if you
like, affects/is affected) by the US' foreign trade (debt/surplus), economic
policies, etc. Dollar low compared to foreign currency: boon to local US
tourism and US products for export. Dollar high compared to foreign
currency: more Americans go overseas and buy foreign products (a bit
oversimplified but true, nevertheless).

Time and again, what is plain to see during "world recessions" is that
capitalist economies almost always fare better than socialistic economies
because, for one, there are proportionally less social welfare-type programs
(non-revenue generating, i.e., all expense) that hasten the economy's
stagnation, two, because citizens of the former tend to rely mostly on
themselves for their own welfare and not expect government handouts at every
turn of the economy. A capitalist economy appears to be better "buffered"
for recessions: opportunities arise for entrepreneurs when
businesses/sectors flounder, e.g., other businesses take over/expand or are
formed thus creating jobs which helps offset the ones which were lost.
Mufasa: "It's part of the circle of life... (in a capitalist jungle anyhow).

Germany still has not recovered from the economic chaos created by their
unification.

France, well, is France.

Like him or not, Bush is doing a much better job with the economy than most
detractors would give him credit for considering he took office in his first
term when the economy was already well into a downward spiral.

wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our

economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France

broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.

Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US

economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like
comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare
Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically
gigantic!




[email protected] March 7th 05 02:54 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our
economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France
broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even

worse.
Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US
economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.


shakes head in disbelief


He is the "king"

I see you haven't taken JimH's advice.


[email protected] March 7th 05 02:58 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our

economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France

broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.

Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US

economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.


shakes head in disbelief


Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple
facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I
meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is
comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get
it.


NOYB March 7th 05 03:41 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our
economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France
broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse.
Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US
economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.


shakes head in disbelief


Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple
facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I
meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is
comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get
it.


You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in
the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect*
inference in that sentence?



[email protected] March 7th 05 06:52 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John H wrote:
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with

our
economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week

France
broke the
double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even

worse.
Note,
especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US
economy.
snip

What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us.

shakes head in disbelief


Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple
facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it

out. I
meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is
comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't

get
it.


You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens

elsewhere in
the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect*


inference in that sentence?


Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I
always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just
about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over
yourself.



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