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US economy? Look at Germany! ot
Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy.
Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. ************************************************** ***** Euro Declines as German Unemployment Rises to a Postwar Record March 1 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most in a week against the dollar as German unemployment rose to a postwar high and on speculation U.S. manufacturing accelerated in February. ``The U.S. definitely has the upper hand in the whole economic backdrop,'' said Rizwan Din, a currency strategist at Barclays Capital in London. He expects the euro will fall in three months to the lowest against the dollar since October. The European currency also dropped for a second day against the yen after a government report showed Japanese household spending rose the most in nine months in January, adding to evidence a recession is ending. The euro is down 2.7 percent against the dollar and 0.9 percent against the yen this year in part on speculation the region's expansion will falter. Against the dollar, the euro dropped to $1.3194 at 9:25 a.m. in London, from $1.3227 late yesterday in New York, according to electronic currency-trading system EBS. Din forecasts it will fall to $1.26 in three months. The euro also fell to 137.92 yen, from 138.35. The yen was at 104.52 per dollar, from 104.62. The U.S. Institute for Supply Management's manufacturing index probably rose to 57, according to the median of 56 forecasts in a Bloomberg survey. Signs of a pickup in growth and inflation helped send U.S. 10-year Treasury note yields to their highest in 13 weeks today, widening the gap with Europe. The euro stayed lower after an industry survey showed euro- region manufacturing stalled last month. An index compiled by NTC Research Ltd. for Reuters Group Plc was unchanged at 51.9. Readings above 50 indicate growth. `Double Whammy' ``There's rising downside risk for the euro,'' said Robert Rennie, a currency strategist in Sydney at Westpac Banking Corp. It may fall to $1.28 by quarter-end, he said. ``We're getting good, solid growth in the U.S. and we're not getting it from Europe.'' European Central Bank policy makers have kept their benchmark interest rate at 2 percent since June 2003, and may again leave it at a six-decade low at the March 3 policy meeting, according to the median forecast. The Federal Reserve has lifted its target rate six times, to 2.5 percent, since June. The contrasting outlook in Europe and the U.S. ``is a double whammy for the euro,'' said Callum Henderson, global head of currency strategy at Standard Chartered Plc in Singapore. The euro may fall to $1.3050 this week and as low as 120 yen in the next 12 months, Henderson said. Germany's unemployment rolls increased by 161,000 to the highest since World War II and the adjusted jobless rate rose to 11.7 percent, a seven year-high. Germany's jobless rate, measured by International Labor Organization standards, rose to 9.3 percent in January from 9.2 percent in December, a separate government report showed today. `Europe Is Weak' ``The economic outlook in Europe is weak,'' said Jake Moore, a currency strategist in Tokyo at Barclays Capital Inc. ``The bias is for the euro to weaken against the yen'' because of evidence of a Japanese economic recovery, he said. Japan's currency may rise to 136 per euro in the next few weeks, he said. Japanese household spending rose 8.2 percent from December, the government said today. A separate government report showed today the economy added 470,000 jobs, helping the unemployment rate hold at a six-year low of 4.5 percent. Reports yesterday showed Japan's industrial production rose 2.1 percent and retail sales gained the most in more than six years in January. Japan's currency is still down more than 2.5 percent against the dollar since reaching a five-year high of 101.69 on Jan. 17. A government report on Feb. 15 showed the third straight quarterly contraction in the final three months of 2004, sending the economy into its fourth recession since 1991. U.S. Job Growth Demand for the dollar may gain in advance of the March 4 U.S. employment report, said Jeremy Stretch, senior currency strategist at Rabobank Groep in London. The median forecast among economists polled by Bloomberg is for job growth to accelerate to 225,000 in February from 146,000 in January. ``We would be looking for the dollar to rally in the near term,'' said Stretch. ``Provided we get those payroll numbers coming in in-line with consensus, or above, the U.S. dollar is going to stage some gains.'' U.S. 10-year Treasury yields today rose as high as 4.39 percent, the highest since Dec. 3. The gap, or spread, with German 10-year bunds widened to 63 basis points today, compared with 56 basis points at the end of last week. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point. Treasury yields increased after a government report yesterday showed the measure of inflation used by the Fed in its semi-annual forecasts accelerated to the fastest in more than two years. Prices of goods and services bought by consumers rose 0.2 percent in January from the previous month. ************************************* John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. In spite of Europe's economic conditions, their currency is doing far better than ours. That's is just a fact. The article you quoted says the Euro-Dollar conversion may get back to $1.26. Well, that's still above where it was in most of 2004 as the Euro soared against the Dollar. (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EURU...y&l=on&z=m&q=l) Our out-of-control debt is the prime reason for the rise of the Euro against the Dollar. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are concerned enough about the Dollar that they are investing their assets overseas. (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...nist_pesek&sid =anG6GRlMcrz8) |
krause, you're a german who badmouths other ethnic situations and your own
country of origin is also forcing some on unemployment out to prostitution and cutting off their unemployment insurance benefits, because prostitution is legal in germany. krause, you are a class act of ethics and values. Once again krause, your're not only a liar, but also an idiot. "John H" wrote in message ... Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. ************************************************** ***** Euro Declines as German Unemployment Rises to a Postwar Record March 1 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most in a week against the dollar as German unemployment rose to a postwar high and on speculation U.S. manufacturing accelerated in February. ``The U.S. definitely has the upper hand in the whole economic backdrop,'' said Rizwan Din, a currency strategist at Barclays Capital in London. He expects the euro will fall in three months to the lowest against the dollar since October. The European currency also dropped for a second day against the yen after a government report showed Japanese household spending rose the most in nine months in January, adding to evidence a recession is ending. The euro is down 2.7 percent against the dollar and 0.9 percent against the yen this year in part on speculation the region's expansion will falter. Against the dollar, the euro dropped to $1.3194 at 9:25 a.m. in London, from $1.3227 late yesterday in New York, according to electronic currency-trading system EBS. Din forecasts it will fall to $1.26 in three months. The euro also fell to 137.92 yen, from 138.35. The yen was at 104.52 per dollar, from 104.62. The U.S. Institute for Supply Management's manufacturing index probably rose to 57, according to the median of 56 forecasts in a Bloomberg survey. Signs of a pickup in growth and inflation helped send U.S. 10-year Treasury note yields to their highest in 13 weeks today, widening the gap with Europe. The euro stayed lower after an industry survey showed euro- region manufacturing stalled last month. An index compiled by NTC Research Ltd. for Reuters Group Plc was unchanged at 51.9. Readings above 50 indicate growth. `Double Whammy' ``There's rising downside risk for the euro,'' said Robert Rennie, a currency strategist in Sydney at Westpac Banking Corp. It may fall to $1.28 by quarter-end, he said. ``We're getting good, solid growth in the U.S. and we're not getting it from Europe.'' European Central Bank policy makers have kept their benchmark interest rate at 2 percent since June 2003, and may again leave it at a six-decade low at the March 3 policy meeting, according to the median forecast. The Federal Reserve has lifted its target rate six times, to 2.5 percent, since June. The contrasting outlook in Europe and the U.S. ``is a double whammy for the euro,'' said Callum Henderson, global head of currency strategy at Standard Chartered Plc in Singapore. The euro may fall to $1.3050 this week and as low as 120 yen in the next 12 months, Henderson said. Germany's unemployment rolls increased by 161,000 to the highest since World War II and the adjusted jobless rate rose to 11.7 percent, a seven year-high. Germany's jobless rate, measured by International Labor Organization standards, rose to 9.3 percent in January from 9.2 percent in December, a separate government report showed today. `Europe Is Weak' ``The economic outlook in Europe is weak,'' said Jake Moore, a currency strategist in Tokyo at Barclays Capital Inc. ``The bias is for the euro to weaken against the yen'' because of evidence of a Japanese economic recovery, he said. Japan's currency may rise to 136 per euro in the next few weeks, he said. Japanese household spending rose 8.2 percent from December, the government said today. A separate government report showed today the economy added 470,000 jobs, helping the unemployment rate hold at a six-year low of 4.5 percent. Reports yesterday showed Japan's industrial production rose 2.1 percent and retail sales gained the most in more than six years in January. Japan's currency is still down more than 2.5 percent against the dollar since reaching a five-year high of 101.69 on Jan. 17. A government report on Feb. 15 showed the third straight quarterly contraction in the final three months of 2004, sending the economy into its fourth recession since 1991. U.S. Job Growth Demand for the dollar may gain in advance of the March 4 U.S. employment report, said Jeremy Stretch, senior currency strategist at Rabobank Groep in London. The median forecast among economists polled by Bloomberg is for job growth to accelerate to 225,000 in February from 146,000 in January. ``We would be looking for the dollar to rally in the near term,'' said Stretch. ``Provided we get those payroll numbers coming in in-line with consensus, or above, the U.S. dollar is going to stage some gains.'' U.S. 10-year Treasury yields today rose as high as 4.39 percent, the highest since Dec. 3. The gap, or spread, with German 10-year bunds widened to 63 basis points today, compared with 56 basis points at the end of last week. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point. Treasury yields increased after a government report yesterday showed the measure of inflation used by the Fed in its semi-annual forecasts accelerated to the fastest in more than two years. Prices of goods and services bought by consumers rose 0.2 percent in January from the previous month. ************************************* John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! |
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wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. In spite of Europe's economic conditions, their currency is doing far better than ours. That's is just a fact. The article you quoted says the Euro-Dollar conversion may get back to $1.26. Well, that's still above where it was in most of 2004 as the Euro soared against the Dollar. (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EURU...y&l=on&z=m&q=l) Our out-of-control debt is the prime reason for the rise of the Euro against the Dollar. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are concerned enough about the Dollar that they are investing their assets overseas. (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...nist_pesek&sid =anG6GRlMcrz8) Your site Gates and Buffet wouldn't come up for me. I got to Bloomberg, but saw nothing about Gates and Buffet. If they were investing 'their assets' overseas, I'd be most surprised. If they are investing a 'portion' of their assets overseas, then they are being prudent. It seems as though the 'dollar vs Euro' controversy is one of the last strongholds of the anti-Bush crowd with respect to the US economy. We added 262,00 jobs last month, our unemployment rate is 5.4%. There is not a whole lot to whine about. (I'm not saying *you're* whining!) John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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John H wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 05:07:48 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! I won't comment on that first sentence of yours. You can "comment" on anything you like. But before you do, may I suggest that you first think about the context it was written in. The way the German government's economic policies and practices aren't relevant to our situation. In your scenario, Germany would look gigantic, and the US would look *triply* gigantic. Not if we were comparing Germany and Afghanistan. Again, U.S. economy wouldn't be in the equation. |
John H wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 06:54:05 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 05:07:48 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! I won't comment on that first sentence of yours. You can "comment" on anything you like. But before you do, may I suggest that you first think about the context it was written in. The way the German government's economic policies and practices aren't relevant to our situation. In your scenario, Germany would look gigantic, and the US would look *triply* gigantic. Not if we were comparing Germany and Afghanistan. Again, U.S. economy wouldn't be in the equation. Well, I'm not sure *how* Afghanistan got into the equation. The original post was in response to some of the left wing comments regarding the poor job Bush has/is doing with regard to the economy of the US. When compared to the economies of other countries, the US is doing quite well. John H Never mind, John. If you don't get it now, you probably never will. The end. |
wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief |
"John H" wrote in message ... When compared to the economies of other countries, the US is doing quite well. When compared to historical US data, the US is doing quite well. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief He is the "king" |
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John H wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 06:54:05 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 05:07:48 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! I won't comment on that first sentence of yours. You can "comment" on anything you like. But before you do, may I suggest that you first think about the context it was written in. The way the German government's economic policies and practices aren't relevant to our situation. In your scenario, Germany would look gigantic, and the US would look *triply* gigantic. Not if we were comparing Germany and Afghanistan. Again, U.S. economy wouldn't be in the equation. Well, I'm not sure *how* Afghanistan got into the equation. The original post was in response to some of the left wing comments regarding the poor job Bush has/is doing with regard to the economy of the US. When compared to the economies of other countries, the US is doing quite well. John H Never mind, John. If you don't get it now, you probably never will. The end. I suppose 'it' was too subtle for me. But, I am getting pretty old and ragged. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! Go take Economics 101. And then you will realize that the economy is global. Failing enconomies in Europe affect us. Greatly. And Europe, especially Germany and Italy are tanking big time. Part of the oil price increase (and a major part) is China's booming economy. They are buying copius amounts of oil to fuel the manufacturing base. And since they learned from Japan, to artificially hold the low value of their currency, they get to have even greater benefits in their economy. Japan was eventually required to float the value of their currency, and it is coming very soon for China. |
Did he really say "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on
us."? "NOYB" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief |
"What happens elsewhere in the world..." determines/is determined (or if you
like, affects/is affected) by the US' foreign trade (debt/surplus), economic policies, etc. Dollar low compared to foreign currency: boon to local US tourism and US products for export. Dollar high compared to foreign currency: more Americans go overseas and buy foreign products (a bit oversimplified but true, nevertheless). Time and again, what is plain to see during "world recessions" is that capitalist economies almost always fare better than socialistic economies because, for one, there are proportionally less social welfare-type programs (non-revenue generating, i.e., all expense) that hasten the economy's stagnation, two, because citizens of the former tend to rely mostly on themselves for their own welfare and not expect government handouts at every turn of the economy. A capitalist economy appears to be better "buffered" for recessions: opportunities arise for entrepreneurs when businesses/sectors flounder, e.g., other businesses take over/expand or are formed thus creating jobs which helps offset the ones which were lost. Mufasa: "It's part of the circle of life... (in a capitalist jungle anyhow). Germany still has not recovered from the economic chaos created by their unification. France, well, is France. Like him or not, Bush is doing a much better job with the economy than most detractors would give him credit for considering he took office in his first term when the economy was already well into a downward spiral. wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Take for example, if you were to compare Afghanistan with Germany, THEN, Germany would look economically gigantic! |
P.Fritz wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief He is the "king" I see you haven't taken JimH's advice. |
NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. |
wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? |
NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over yourself. |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? One thing for sure.........asslicker will never get it.......... John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? |
P.Fritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? One thing for sure.........asslicker will never get it.......... More childish name calling. You just didn't get Jim's message, did you? |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 10:52:20 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over yourself. More personal attacks, basskisser? Are they necessary? One does not need to know, or surmise, your thoughts to know that you said, "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us." What you you expect from a person that has to lie about their education, job, and life in general? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:26:25 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On 7 Mar 2005 10:52:20 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over yourself. More personal attacks, basskisser? Are they necessary? One does not need to know, or surmise, your thoughts to know that you said, "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us." What you you expect from a person that has to lie about their education, job, and life in general? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." I would expect that *all* of us could get along with a lot less name-calling and personal insults. I just have to agree with JimH and Gould in that regard. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:26:25 -0500, "P.Fritz" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On 7 Mar 2005 10:52:20 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over yourself. More personal attacks, basskisser? Are they necessary? One does not need to know, or surmise, your thoughts to know that you said, "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us." What you you expect from a person that has to lie about their education, job, and life in general? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." I would expect that *all* of us could get along Rodney K? is that you? with a lot less name-calling and personal insults. I just have to agree with JimH and Gould in that regard. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
They were not trying to tell you what you were thinking, he was telling you
what you wrote. wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? |
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:56:50 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:26:25 -0500, "P.Fritz" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 10:52:20 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. You weren't just making a comparison. You said: "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us". Do you see the *cause* and *effect* inference in that sentence? Oh, so now you contend to be able to tell WHAT I WAS THINKING? NOYB, I always knew you considered yourself quite special, but that's the just about as audacious and condensending as a person can get. Get over yourself. More personal attacks, basskisser? Are they necessary? One does not need to know, or surmise, your thoughts to know that you said, "What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us." What you you expect from a person that has to lie about their education, job, and life in general? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." I would expect that *all* of us could get along Rodney K? is that you? with a lot less name-calling and personal insults. I just have to agree with JimH and Gould in that regard. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Jeeez! It does sound like it, doesn't it? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message ... They were not trying to tell you what you were thinking, he was telling you what you wrote. Can you say ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Asslicker just want s to continue playing the same disingenuous game, it is no different than asking him if he stopped beating his wife yet. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Asslicker just want s to continue playing the same disingenuous game, it is no different than asking him if he stopped beating his wife yet. Come on Paul, give it a break....please. |
"JimH" wrote in message ... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Asslicker just want s to continue playing the same disingenuous game, it is no different than asking him if he stopped beating his wife yet. Come on Paul, give it a break....please. My point being, asslicker, as well as chuck now, continue the same old shell game. It is no different than asking if asslicker had stopped beating his wife......... I never accused him of beating his wife............just like his veiled insults that he continuously claims are not......the difference being, I have never let it get to me, since there is no truth to the lame insults he has thrown........but it certainly has bothered him..............one wonders if there is a grain of truth to it. |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Asslicker just want s to continue playing the same disingenuous game, it is no different than asking him if he stopped beating his wife yet. Come on Paul, give it a break....please. My point being, asslicker, as well as chuck now, continue the same old shell game. Then be a bigger man and ignore what you see are insults directed at you. It is no different than asking if asslicker had stopped beating his wife......... I never accused him of beating his wife............just like his veiled insults that he continuously claims are not......the difference being, I have never let it get to me, since there is no truth to the lame insults he has thrown........but it certainly has bothered him..............one wonders if there is a grain of truth to it. That dog don't hunt anymore Paul. ;-) |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Like he ignores the voices in his head. |
"JimH" wrote in message ... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On 7 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0800, wrote: John H wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:58:05 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... John H wrote: Some folks want to complain that Bush has done a bad job with our economy. Perhaps they should check the rest of the world. Last week France broke the double digit unemployment rate. This week Germany does even worse. Note, especially, the second paragraph and the last section on the US economy. snip What happens elsewhere in the world has no bearing on us. shakes head in disbelief Me too, NOYB. I can't believe that you don't understand some simple facts. IF you were to comprehend what you read, you'd figure it out. I meant, what is happening in Germany, and conversely, the U.S. is comparing apples to watermelons. But, it looks as though you won't get it. Normally I would say nothing, but since you just jumped on Fritz, I have to ask. When you read the post you just made, above, do you not see any personal insults? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." WHAT??? You don't think someone is being quite pretentious when they try to tell you what you are thinking?????? What I think is not pertinent. What I write is. If someone is attributing thoughts to you that you aren't having, correct them, or just ignore them. Asslicker just want s to continue playing the same disingenuous game, it is no different than asking him if he stopped beating his wife yet. Come on Paul, give it a break....please. My point being, asslicker, as well as chuck now, continue the same old shell game. Then be a bigger man and ignore what you see are insults directed at you. I do all the time. It is no different than asking if asslicker had stopped beating his wife......... I never accused him of beating his wife............just like his veiled insults that he continuously claims are not......the difference being, I have never let it get to me, since there is no truth to the lame insults he has thrown........but it certainly has bothered him..............one wonders if there is a grain of truth to it. That dog don't hunt anymore Paul. ;-) Well, don't be to sure :-) |
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