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" Kuwaiti Detainees Held as Illegal Combatants in Guantanamo "

Right you are, Gould! That's even more good news!


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Your philosophies and politics may be as twisted as spaghetti in a
blender, but you're probably the most honest right winger in the group.
More people should be willing to express their feelings as candidly.

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You keep missing the big picture, John.

We embark on a crusade that makes a mockery of everything this country
traditionally has stood for, imprison people without due process,
follow our own citiznes around peering and prying into library reading
lists, etc.....and you continue to declare every day with fewer than
the prevailing average number of innocent people killed as "good news".

Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us,

You first need to dismember the governments of the countries that are
supporting them.

not when we continue down some
unrelated list of people and nations who just might maybe, somehow,
some way, someday, attack us in the future. (Taken to its logical
extreme, that includes everybody).

The large majority in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Egypt, etc. are happy that
they're being given the chance to vote in democratic elections. I'm sure
the same is true for folks in Iran and Syria. And we can thank Bush's
policies for giving them that chance.

The chance to choose their leaders fills them with hope rather than
despair...which is good, because despair is what breeds terrorism.




Give me liberty or give me death? For too many folks that has become
"Forget about liberty. Give me an absolute assurance my family won't be
attacked by a terrorist and I'll volunteer to set fire to the Bill of
Rights"

Sign me up.



"People who are willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither."

OK Mr. Franklin. The problem with that statement is that the US has a
history of trading liberty for security in times of war.

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" Kuwaiti Detainees Held as Illegal Combatants in Guantanamo "

Right you are, Gould! That's even more good news!


**************

Your philosophies and politics may be as twisted as spaghetti in a
blender, but you're probably the most honest right winger in the group.
More people should be willing to express their feelings as candidly.

The veil of anonymity provides that ability. ;-)

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" Kuwaiti Detainees Held as Illegal Combatants in Guantanamo "

Right you are, Gould! That's even more good news!


**************

Your philosophies and politics may be as twisted as spaghetti in a
blender, but you're probably the most honest right winger in the group.
More people should be willing to express their feelings as candidly.



I agree with your assessment, which is why he is one of the few righties
here I'll fool around with, plus, of course, the fact that he has some
nice boats in Florida, and I'm sure he'd be a great fishing date for the
day.

"fool around" and "date"? I'm not a homo. Sorry.

Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us,


NOYB wrote:
You first need to dismember the governments of the countries that are
supporting them.

Agreed, definitely.

So why did we attack Iraq?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us,


NOYB wrote:
You first need to dismember the governments of the countries that are
supporting them.

Agreed, definitely.

So why did we attack Iraq?


You missed the part where Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers,
and was harboring known terrorists (like Abu Nidal) in Baghdad?

On 28 Feb 2005 16:42:02 -0800, wrote:

You keep missing the big picture, John.

We embark on a crusade that makes a mockery of everything this country
traditionally has stood for, imprison people without due process,
follow our own citiznes around peering and prying into library reading
lists, etc.....and you continue to declare every day with fewer than
the prevailing average number of innocent people killed as "good news".

Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us, not when we continue down some
unrelated list of people and nations who just might maybe, somehow,
some way, someday, attack us in the future. (Taken to its logical
extreme, that includes everybody).

Give me liberty or give me death? For too many folks that has become
"Forget about liberty. Give me an absolute assurance my family won't be
attacked by a terrorist and I'll volunteer to set fire to the Bill of
Rights"

"People who are willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither."

The post had to do with WMD in Lebanon. Is that the 'big picture' I missed?

We embarked on a crusade to rid the world of a regime that brutalized its own
people, those of other countries, and threatened us. The evidence for the
existence of the WMD keeps getting closer. Once it's found, what will your
rationale consist of?

Good news has been occurring in leaps and bounds. That is a fact, and your
anti-US, anti-Bush negativism isn't going to change it.

Stop your incessant whining. You're beginning to sound like Krause!

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:03:35 -0500, DSK wrote:

Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us,


NOYB wrote:
You first need to dismember the governments of the countries that are
supporting them.

Agreed, definitely.

So why did we attack Iraq?

DSK

Go back and read the first post in this thread. There was a mention there of WMD
in Lebanon.

So why did we attack Iraq?



NOYB wrote:
You missed the part where Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers,
and was harboring known terrorists (like Abu Nidal) in Baghdad?


So, we invaded Iraq because they harbored an anti-European terrorist
about 20 years ago, and Saddam *claimed* (not verified) that he was
supporting anti-Israeli terrorists?

DSK

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On 28 Feb 2005 16:42:02 -0800, wrote:

You keep missing the big picture, John.

We embark on a crusade that makes a mockery of everything this country
traditionally has stood for, imprison people without due process,
follow our own citiznes around peering and prying into library reading
lists, etc.....and you continue to declare every day with fewer than
the prevailing average number of innocent people killed as "good news".

Good news will be when we get serious about dismembering the
organization that already attacked us, not when we continue down some
unrelated list of people and nations who just might maybe, somehow,
some way, someday, attack us in the future. (Taken to its logical
extreme, that includes everybody).

Give me liberty or give me death? For too many folks that has become
"Forget about liberty. Give me an absolute assurance my family won't be
attacked by a terrorist and I'll volunteer to set fire to the Bill of
Rights"

"People who are willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither."

The post had to do with WMD in Lebanon. Is that the 'big picture' I
missed?

We embarked on a crusade to rid the world of a regime that brutalized its
own
people, those of other countries, and threatened us. The evidence for the
existence of the WMD keeps getting closer. Once it's found, what will your
rationale consist of?

Good news has been occurring in leaps and bounds. That is a fact, and your
anti-US, anti-Bush negativism isn't going to change it.

Stop your incessant whining. You're beginning to sound like Krause!

I just hope Chuck is smart enough to realize the magnitude of what is
happening right now in the Middle East (Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon).

The Arab-Israeli conflict is being fueled by Syria and Iran...and those two
countries are being marginalized into irrelevancy.