"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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...We're unmoderated, so everyone is welcome here,
as long as they wipe their feet at the door.

It sometimes takes me a while to find the mat but, as you know, I try
to be neat.


Even more than that, I bet you have some excellent contributions vis-a-vis
outdoor cooking. Now that you've been introduced to the dark side
(kayaking), I hope to someday have a chance to show you the REAL way to
enjoy the water: open boat tripping. You can even cast from your boat, and
the stuff you can bring along....a chefs dream.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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Even more than that, I bet you have some excellent contributions
vis-a-vis
outdoor cooking.

I tend to keep it simple in the great out of doors.......I generally
focus on other aspects of the trip. That said, with the equipment
available today the possibilities are endless. A recipe or two might
show up from time to time.

Now that you've been introduced to the dark side
(kayaking), I hope to someday have a chance to show you the REAL way
to
enjoy the water: open boat tripping. You can even cast from your
boat, and
the stuff you can bring along....a chefs dream.


I own a canoe, and have done some tripping in the past. I've always
enjoyed it but the maneuverability of the kayak makes it a lot more
fun for me.

And, as far as the fishing is concerned, I see the boat mainly as a
means of getting from place to place. I'm really not at all fond of
fishing from boats. As you know, it can be problematic with a fly
rod.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in :


"riverman" wrote in message
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Even more than that, I bet you have some excellent contributions
vis-a-vis outdoor cooking.

I tend to keep it simple in the great out of doors.......I generally
focus on other aspects of the trip. That said, with the equipment
available today the possibilities are endless. A recipe or two might
show up from time to time.

Now that you've been introduced to the dark side (kayaking), I hope to
someday have a chance to show you the REAL way to enjoy the water:
open boat tripping. You can even cast from your boat, and the stuff
you can bring along....a chefs dream.


I own a canoe, and have done some tripping in the past. I've always
enjoyed it but the maneuverability of the kayak makes it a lot more
fun for me.

And, as far as the fishing is concerned, I see the boat mainly as a
means of getting from place to place. I'm really not at all fond of
fishing from boats. As you know, it can be problematic with a fly
rod.

When I first started kayaking one of my primary goals was to use the boat as
a means to get to point A to point B while where I could weild my flyrod. I
haven't done much kayak fishing since then but one trick I learned was to
bring along a little plastic paddle from a cheapo pool raft that I could use
to position the boat for casting. Casting from a kayak with a flyrod can be
difficult (having a good roll cast helps) but hook into a large fish and
it's a lot of fun. I once hooked into a very large carp that dragged me
around for a half an hour before it finally broke off. I saw the fish once
and it looked to be well over 10 pounds.

As far as the community goes, I've been participating on the Internet for 20
years and have been involved in a lot of them. Rec.boats.paddle is a good
one. I also participated in the flyfishing groups for a number of years (I
wrote the RFD for the flytying group) and made a lot of virtual friends from
those groups. A week ago or so I was sitting at home on a Sunday afternoon
and got a call from a guy that also used to read the FF groups. He'd been
in town on business and just looked me up to call and chat about the local
flyfishing before he got on a plane. It's not exactly fishing season here
but if he would have called earlier in the day we could have grabbed a
couple of my flyrods and ventured down to the lake to wet a fly. This
community is similar in that many regulars might meet up when traveling,
loan a kayak, and go out and spend some time on the water. I know that
there are quite a few people that have contributed to this group that I'd
love to paddle with some day.

"John Fereira" wrote in message
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When I first started kayaking one of my primary goals was to use the boat
as
a means to get to point A to point B while where I could weild my flyrod.
I
haven't done much kayak fishing since then but one trick I learned was to
bring along a little plastic paddle from a cheapo pool raft that I could
use
to position the boat for casting. Casting from a kayak with a flyrod can
be
difficult (having a good roll cast helps) but hook into a large fish and
it's a lot of fun. I once hooked into a very large carp that dragged me
around for a half an hour before it finally broke off. I saw the fish
once
and it looked to be well over 10 pounds.

The thought of being dragged around by a large fish has a certain appeal,
but I really didn't buy the kayak with the intention of fishing from it.
What I had in mind was exactly what we did on my first outing in a friend's
boat. He and I were in single seater kayaks, while four others were
distributed in a two seater and a canoe (the canoe was VERY handy for
carrying food and beer!). The whole point of the venture was to drift for a
bit and stop freqently to get out and fish likely looking spots for
smallmouth (well, that and the company and yet another excuse......as if one
were needed.....to indulge in more beer). This was in Penns creek in
central Pennsylvania. A bit further upstream from where we did our float,
Penns is justly famous as a magnificent trout stream. I love fly fishing
for trout.......but smallmouth are also dear to my shrivelled little heart.
The method we employed wasn't especially productive on that day (that's why
they call it "fishing".....not "catching", right?) but it was an awesome day
and I fell immediately and hopelessly in love with scooting around the river
for a bit and then wading in the shallow water while fishing with the boat
tethered to my waist.

As far as the community goes, I've been participating on the Internet for
20
years and have been involved in a lot of them. Rec.boats.paddle is a good
one.

Feels right homey so far.

I also participated in the flyfishing groups for a number of years (I
wrote the RFD for the flytying group) and made a lot of virtual friends
from
those groups. A week ago or so I was sitting at home on a Sunday
afternoon
and got a call from a guy that also used to read the FF groups. He'd been
in town on business and just looked me up to call and chat about the local
flyfishing before he got on a plane. It's not exactly fishing season here
but if he would have called earlier in the day we could have grabbed a
couple of my flyrods and ventured down to the lake to wet a fly. This
community is similar in that many regulars might meet up when traveling,
loan a kayak, and go out and spend some time on the water. I know that
there are quite a few people that have contributed to this group that I'd
love to paddle with some day.

If you'd like to rekindle an interest in fly fishing groups on line,
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly is far and away the best place to go. Given your
background, I'll assume you don't need to be warned about the possible
pitfalls. As is true with any newsgroup, we've our share of "unusual"
individuals there.......some might go so far as to list me among them......I
wouldn't know about that. At any rate, over the course of the last six
years I have not only made numerous virtual friends there, I have also been
fortunate enough to make several very good literal ones.

Wolfgang

Snippage
were needed.....to indulge in more beer). This was in Penns creek in
central Pennsylvania. A bit further upstream from where we did our float,
Penns is justly famous as a magnificent trout stream. I love fly fishing


Wolfgang


Beautiful part of the country. I just got back from a weekend south of there
(Raystown Lake). I used to live up that way and would move back in a
heartbeat. I have some wonderful friends in the town of Penns Creek. I would
love to live near them again.

Ken

"Wolfgang" wrote in
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"John Fereira" wrote in message
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If you'd like to rekindle an interest in fly fishing groups on line,
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly is far and away the best place to go.

That was one of the groups I participated in, pretty much from it's
inception. I also proposed and wrote the RFD for
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying. The guy that called me a couple of weeks
ago was also from ROFF. Is Tim Walker still participating on the group?

"John Fereira" wrote in message
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Is Tim Walker still participating on the group?

T-bone drops in, once in a blue-moon to share his thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, he and Wolfgang fish together regularly. T-bone
catches trout for a fish fry and Wolfgang releases the trout back into the
stream, to T-bone's dismay.

Mark --if god had intended man to eat trout, he would have stocked all
streams with non-wild trout!--

"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
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"John Fereira" wrote in message
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Is Tim Walker still participating on the group?

T-bone drops in, once in a blue-moon to share his thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, he and Wolfgang fish together regularly. T-bone
catches trout for a fish fry and Wolfgang releases the trout back into the
stream, to T-bone's dismay...

All in the name of science. It's taken a while to gather the evidence and
complete the statistical analyses, but I believe I have at last demonstrated
conclusively that fried fish are lousy swimmers.

Wolfgang
coming soon to a peer-reviewed journal near you!

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:19:30 GMT, John Fereira wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in
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"John Fereira" wrote in message
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If you'd like to rekindle an interest in fly fishing groups on line,
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly is far and away the best place to go.

That was one of the groups I participated in, pretty much from it's
inception. I also proposed and wrote the RFD for
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying. The guy that called me a couple of weeks
ago was also from ROFF. Is Tim Walker still participating on the group?

Timbo looks in on occasion, I think, but doesn't participate.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

"John Fereira" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in
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"John Fereira" wrote in message
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If you'd like to rekindle an interest in fly fishing groups on line,
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly is far and away the best place to go.

That was one of the groups I participated in, pretty much from it's
inception. I also proposed and wrote the RFD for
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying. The guy that called me a couple of weeks
ago was also from ROFF. Is Tim Walker still participating on the group?

He shows up from time to time, but doesn't stay long. When I first found
ROFF some five or six years ago he was a regular participant and contributed
much that was worth reading. However, he was (and remains) obsessed by the
catch and release versus catch and kill controversy (coming down heavily on
the side of the latter) and his fixation only got worse with time.
Eventually it got to the point where he became incapable of contributing
more than one or two messages on any topic without his personal demon
forcing the discussion onto the all too familiar track. Of course, none of
this would have been much of a problem if he'd been able to bring in
something new and relevant occasionally, but he couldn't, and there was
never much there to begin with. I suspect you know the type.......it seems
that every newsgroup has got at least one of them.

Meanwhile, despite the frequent and inevitable (and not entirely
unjustified) complaints about the low signal to noise ratio, ROFF does
better than any other unmoderated group I've looked at. Here on RBP, for
example, I see less on topic discussion than I do there. Lest there be any
misunderstanding, this is not a complaint on my part, merely an observation.
As a matter of fact, and as anyone on ROFF can attest, I enjoy a lot of the
off topic stuff much more than endless the repetition of tedious minutiae
and inane controversy that necessarily crops up in a newsgroup which, among
other things, caters to the needs of a steady stream of newbies looking for
guidance, and serves as a soapbox for self-styled savants.

Wolfgang
who remains hopelessly in love with usenet.