"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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"wayno" wrote in message
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well, i will be damned. so did i. a canoe, though, from mad river.
seemed the most stable/lightweight/inexpensive option.

now we have another reason to meet, act like fools, and drink to
excess.

oh, btw, i see that riverman is also "on board" (hilarious, doncha
know), and seems to be very experienced. do you mind if i email you
with all kinds of newbie bull**** querys, myron?

your friend in the old north state
wayno


Howdy Wayno! How'd you get here? Nice to hear from you. :-)

Which Mad River did you get? I've found MR to make the best boats around,
but they usually are far from the least expensive.

--riverman

well, i asked for the most stable platform available. my intentions do
*no* include whitewater. just little day trips down some relatively slow
moving small rivers around piedmont and eastern north carolina.
so the outfit suggested a 14' royalex (olive), called the "adventurer",
iirc, and i added wicker seat backs.
i don't plan on fly fishing from the boat, but some ultralight spinning
might be fun. would i need a pontoon addition, or is that just too lame
for words?


Sounds cozy :-) I think you probably don't need sponsons, as your boat is
probably going to be stable enough, especially if you stay out of the moving
water for awhile. I don't know if you are a complete beginner, but I'll
assume that you are pretty close to one, so a word of warning: train
yourself early to never, never put your hands on the gunnels (the side
rails). If you are dedicated to keeping your weight on your feet, knees or
butt, then its pretty much impossible to tip over. OTOH, even in a very slow
moving stream or a lake, if you lean on the gunnel you'll be over in a
heartbeat, sponsons or not. In that vein, be sure to keep your fishing gear
in a case, and tie a line from the case to the thwarts (the rails that go
across the boat). Nothing like losing your fishing gear after a particularly
stupid spill to add injury to insult.

Now for the fun part: spring in coming to the peidmont, and you got a boat!
grin

thanks for your suggestions. that process about cartopping was great!


Take it from a guy with a bad back. :-)

--riverman

By the way, you should expect your boat to be able to tip back and forth a
bit, so don't be unsteady on your feet. This is called 'low primary
stability' (primary stability refers to the boats resistance to tilting
sidways at all. Canoes tend to have low primary stability). But learn fairly
quickly about how far it will tip before it stops tipping....this is
secondary stability (the boats resistance to going all the way over). A good
comparison is a rocking chair: easy to rock, but good ones don't tend to
rock past a certain point. Low primary, high secondary. Once you get the
'feel' of the stabilities of your boat, you'll be much much more comfortable
in it.

"riverman" wrote in message
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"wayno" wrote in message
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well, i will be damned. so did i. a canoe, though, from mad river.
seemed the most stable/lightweight/inexpensive option.

now we have another reason to meet, act like fools, and drink to
excess.

oh, btw, i see that riverman is also "on board" (hilarious, doncha
know), and seems to be very experienced. do you mind if i email you
with all kinds of newbie bull**** querys, myron?

your friend in the old north state
wayno


Howdy Wayno! How'd you get here? Nice to hear from you. :-)

Which Mad River did you get? I've found MR to make the best boats around,
but they usually are far from the least expensive.

--riverman


Oh, and I forgot to add....of COURSE you can email me with any newbie
questions you have. I owe you a lot for helping me through the newbie ff
blues, and your patience with my newbie questions, and would be happy for
the chance to return the favor. Or you can post here...there are many folks
here who are quite a deep resource for any kind of boating you want to get
into.

--riverman

"wayno" wrote in message
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well, i will be damned. so did i. a canoe, though, from mad river.
seemed the most stable/lightweight/inexpensive option.

Canoes can be fun (I've got one that hasn't moved from it's resting
place on a friend's property for about five years) but they're just
not as convenient for a quick jaunt to the nearest damp spot, I think.

now we have another reason to meet, act like fools, and drink to
excess.

And if that fails, we could always try actually fishing together
sometime.

oh, btw, i see that riverman is also "on board" (hilarious, doncha
know)...

Yeah, it appears that they'll let anyone into this place.

Wolfgang
who suddenly finds himself thinking of huns, vandals, visigoths,
mongols, vikings.........

"Wolfgang" wrote

Wolfgang
who suddenly finds himself thinking of huns, vandals, visigoths,
mongols, vikings.........

well, i think mr. j buffet probably put it best, for me: "the cannons
don't thunder, there's nothin' to plunder; i'm an over 40 victim of fate:
arriving to late, arriving too late."
"a pirate looks at forty"

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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..."a pirate looks at forty"

Which is all the more piquant for the obvious alternative context.

Wolfgang
well, obvious to a small but growing number of us, anyway.