On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?


I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:
They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK

Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:37:00 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:

They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.

One does not require a degree in perspicacity to see the bias in her 'question',
does one?

Enough, Jimcomma.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:37:00 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


John H wrote:


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:00:58 -0500, DSK wrote:



John H wrote:


Oh, but it's OK for NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and all the other liberal outlets
of 'news'
to plant press people in the audience?

I guess if it's not constantly spewing hatred against homos &
libby-rulls, then it's not legitimate media in your opinion?

This says a lot about the Bush/Cheney attitude... forget the First
Amendment, state control of the media is their agenda.

Jim, wrote:


They use accredited news people, properly cleared, going through
channels -- I wouldn't call that a plant.

Helen Thomas was there for many years, but Bush is afraid to call on an
80 something year old lady. Real Macho of him.


But she might ask him an actual question. We can't have that now,
everybody must stand together against terrorism and stanp out this
traitorous practice of expecting actual answers from your gov't!

DSK


Helen Thomas hasn't asked an actual question in ages. Helen Thomas pontificates
her opinion until she is stopped. She should have been sent out of the room long
ago.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Here's the text of her last question -- since then she has been
isolated. This question seems to me much more of a question than the
political statement made by "Jeff Gannon"

Begin quote:

Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps,
really socked it to Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over
the issue of Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 – 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the
decision -- including us.


One does not require a degree in perspicacity to see the bias in her 'question',
does one?

Enough, Jimcomma.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Perhaps, it MR FLEISCHER if for no other reason than respect of her age
and seniority, were to let her ask her question without interruption,
she would have been kinder toward him.