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Jim, February 20th 05 05:06 PM

( OT) Hundreds in Brussels Protest Bush's Visit
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching
peacefully in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.

JimH February 20th 05 05:15 PM

Wow, a *whole* 700 people? yawn


"Jim," wrote in message
...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching peacefully
in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.




John H February 20th 05 05:26 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:06:05 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching
peacefully in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.


Only hundreds? Gosh, Bush is getting downright popular. I guess we'd better send
them this:

************************************************** **
Matthias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German publisher Axel Springer
AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT, Germany's largest daily
newspaper, against the timid reaction of Europe in the face of the Islamic
threat.


EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family
name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because
it's so terribly true.

Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and
France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they
noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.

Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then
East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe where for decades,
inhuman, suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the
ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.

Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and even
though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans debated
and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally the Americans
had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, and do our
work for us.

Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European appeasement,
camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now countenances suicide
bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.

Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly
500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by
the self-righteousness of the peace-movement, has the gall to issue bad
grades to George Bush... Even as it is uncovered that the loudest critics of
the American action in Iraq made illicit billions, no, TENS of billions, in
the corrupt U.N. Oil-for-Food program.

And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement...
How is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic
fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we really
should have a "Muslim Holiday" in Germany.

I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our (German)
Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German people, actually
believe that creating an Official State "Muslim Holiday" will somehow spare
us from the wrath of the fanatical Islamists.

One cannot help but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the
laughable treaty signed by Adolf Hitler, and declaring European "Peace in
our time".

What else has to happen before the European public and its political
leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially
perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims,
focused on civilians, directed against our free, open Western societies, and
intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction.

It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great
military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy
that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually
spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be
taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness.

Only two recent American Presidents had the courage needed for
anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.

His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans know the
truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing half
of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual slavery. And
Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair, acting on moral
conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic War against democracy. His
place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of years have
passed.

In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the
multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's values and
being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true
great powers, America and China.

On the contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to those
"arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance", which even
(Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes. Why?
Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic, so
devoid of a moral compass.

For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of
additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the
American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what
is at stake - literally everything.

While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America because they
seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our Social Welfare
systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss
reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of paid
vacation... Or listen to TV pastors preach about the need to "reach out to
terrorists. To understand and forgive".

These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.

Appeasement? Europe, thy name is Cowardice.

"All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for
enough good men to do nothing."

-- Edmund Burke
***************************************

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jim, February 20th 05 05:27 PM

And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000

The population of Belgium is 10,258,000.
OR not far from the population of NYC

JimH wrote:

Wow, a *whole* 700 people? yawn


"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching peacefully
in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.





JimH February 20th 05 05:29 PM

So I guess 94% of the population like him. ;-)


"Jim," wrote in message
...
And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000

The population of Belgium is 10,258,000.
OR not far from the population of NYC

JimH wrote:

Wow, a *whole* 700 people? yawn


"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching
peacefully in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.





John H February 20th 05 05:31 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:27:03 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000

The population of Belgium is 10,258,000.
OR not far from the population of NYC

JimH wrote:

Wow, a *whole* 700 people? yawn


"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._go_pr_wh/bush

extract

"He is coming to persuade and influence the European leaders. We are
afraid the European leaders will distance themselves from their people,"
said Pol de Vos, one of about 700 anti-Bush protesters marching peacefully
in downtown Brussels.

An alliance of 88 environmental, human rights, peace and other groups
have planned protests near the U.S. Embassy for Monday and near the EU
headquarters on Tuesday.

The Web site of the 'Stop Bush' alliance accused Bush of "crimes against
humanity," saying he undermines international law and is an obstacle to
the fight against global warming.



Jimcomma, are you suggesting that 700 people is 6% of the population of Belgium,
Brussels, or the crowd at a high school soccer match?


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H February 20th 05 05:35 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:29:54 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

So I guess 94% of the population like him. ;-)


"Jim," wrote in message
...
And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000

The population of Belgium is 10,258,000.
OR not far from the population of NYC

JimH wrote:

Wow, a *whole* 700 people? yawn


Sounds logical to me!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

NOYB February 20th 05 06:00 PM


"Jim," wrote in message
...
And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000


Wow. Another liberal with a math impediment. Big surprise.


700/1,122,000=0.000623

That'd be roughly 0.06% of the population there, Einstein.







JimH February 20th 05 06:09 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000


Wow. Another liberal with a math impediment. Big surprise.


700/1,122,000=0.000623

That'd be roughly 0.06% of the population there, Einstein.







0.06% disapprove of him. I guess 99.04% of the population approve of him.
Pretty good numbers, eh Jimcomma? ;-)

Hey Jimcomma, remind me once again of your point.



Jim, February 20th 05 06:14 PM

JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Jim," wrote in message
...

And that is 6% of the population

Country: Belgium
Population of Brussels: 1,122,000


Wow. Another liberal with a math impediment. Big surprise.


700/1,122,000=0.000623

That'd be roughly 0.06% of the population there, Einstein.








0.06% disapprove of him. I guess 99.04% of the population approve of him.
Pretty good numbers, eh Jimcomma? ;-)

Hey Jimcomma, remind me once again of your point.



Do those who do not vote approve or disapprove of a candidate?

What sort of demonstrations happen in NYC when a diplomat from a hated
country like France arrives?


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